@Yanguang: Aside from the will of the powers that be, there's not really that much of a scare of the Magic not receiving the update. The issue the G1 has had (available space) is due to a 70MB system partition, which 2.0 is pushing up against. The Magic has a 90MB system partition, which leaves plenty of room. The only thing you guys have to worry about is your carrier withholding the update. Which I personally doubt they'll do. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
How does Android 2.0 stack up against the whole hero/sense build HTC has done? If you ahve a G1, do yourself a favor and flash one of KingKlick's hero/sense ROMS (check htcpedia dot com). It's unbelievable. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
I just noticed his battery went from 1/2 to 1/4 in the 8 minutes he used it. Since synching is not available and he barely did any 3G browsing
I'm assuming the little 528 Mhz processor on the G1 was really struggling to keep up with the OS.
Cyanogen ROMs have been overclocked for a while now, so I hope he'll work his usual magic and gives us a solid, useable release. I don't mind buying him a couple more beers for it! #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
@fdisk: One of my big complaints about Android is the battery indicator, it doesn't really seem to be incremented well. I think what probably happened was his battery was at, say, %30 and still reading 1/2 on the indicator, then went down a little from there and flipped to 1/4.
@tande04: True, but they said that about Donut as well and they were wrong. 2.0 will make it to the G1 in some form of that I am supremely confident. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
@TryAgain: They did. There is no doubt that there will be 2.0 in some form (as seen here) just a question of an official release. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
@tande04: i dont see why they wouldn't. It's just software. All android phones should be able to run the latest version, some might take advantage of it better than others due to hw, but we should still get it. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
@Sith_Mafia: The biggest thing is physical memory of the device itself. The G1 has a piffling amount of internal OS-dedicated memory and putting 2.0 would leave very little in place for application use. Not a problem for rooted users like myself using apps2sd, but for the general schmoe, you'd be somewhat limited on free space, and potential performance. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
@tande04: I think that there will be. Seems possible if they cut out all the additional apps from telecom providers, and move them to the Apps store for individual downloads. Similar to the Droid app store that has Free, Pay and Verizon App tabs. This would also move the apps to the removable memory rather than on board saving space. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
@Mr_Nowitt: I don't think that would change anything.
The app store is alredy set up that way. Apps don't load off the memory card (which is one main draw back). So regardless of how many tmobile apps they don't preinstall it wouldn't matter in the end. Besides it's a bigger problem than just general free space. It's the partition of the os that's at issue. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
So the sluggishness is not attributed to the specs of the G1 but rather to the software port of the coder? That's good news, I'm sure (CN)2 will come up with something good. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: : The slugishness is because this has been done using the software from the emulator, not a full rom. Cyanogen has said that once eclair is released to the AOSP he will be building a ROM for it. Akira deserves credit for getting this running (and also for creating the ROM I am Currently using). #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
You know, color me silly but after the huge success of the iPhone, you'd think that companies would be scrambling to release a truly worthy iPhone competitor. For a company that produces 2 versions of the same phone (not including color choice), they really seem to have dominated the cell phone market.
I appreciate the G1, but it is still not quite the same level of user experience.
And, the Storm sucks. I decided to stop and play w/ one. It really does have a hideous touch screen interface.
People keep talking about the Pre, but it isn't even out yet so we have no real clue about whether or not it will suck. And here we are 2 years later with Apple of all people dominating the cell phone market mindshare, and making money while doing it.
I passed through the T-Mobile store, and it's sort of depressing these lame choices we have for smartphones. It's mostly Blackberries for Nokia's sake.
The lead photo doesn't make much sense.. comparing illegal jailbroken iPhone apps to normal Android apps? Bah. We're equally screwed in the iPhone universe. Worse, actually, as at this point tethering is illegal period, regardless of carrier. Also, the iPhone App Store is carrier and country specific as well, creating an uneven experience (same goes for iPods).
I think they are showing the lack of sanctioned tethering as an inability of the devices to be able to "talk" to each other, not to make any comparisons or draw any similarities to jailbreaking and non-sanctioned tethering apps.
@strider_mt2k: Don't know. I didn't see it that way. I mean "Want to talk about it?" suggests one consoling the other, while "Shut up" and the choice of apps on screen not-so-subtly showcases what one can do and the other is bitter about.
That's just me.. and I love my (jailbroken) iPhone, but I also like to keep it fair when bashing the competition. You know, apples to apples, etc.
Google is officially a large, godless corporation. That Email read like it had been sanitized by several layers of management.
Yeah it sucks that they're not paying out bonus, but they also lost something like 50%+ of their share price. We're in a new economic reality and things like huge bonuses, and massive employee incentives need to be rethought.
Yeah it's nice to reward your underlings, but it's even nicer to remain in business.
ADDENDUM: due to overwhelming interest in the Dream phone from Googlers worldwide, management has agreed to extend this form of compensation throughout fiscal 2009. At the end of each month, each Googler will receive 1, 2, or 3 Dream phones based on previous levels of compensation. We are sure you are as excited about this innovative form of compensation as we are! Again, as reminder, Googlers should not resell any item given to them by Google. Please review our Personal Transactions policy [removed].
Google is covering the taxes for this gift; there will be an extra payroll run before the end of the year to cover the taxes. If you have further payroll or HR-related questions about this gift please email [address removed]
I hope Google realizes that the taxpayer is still liable for taxes owed. As well as the tax on the extra payroll to pay for the tax on the phone.
Under the US Tax Code, all income, unless otherwise specified, is income.
@ripfire: As I read it, Google is paying the employees an extra disbursement to cover the cost of the taxes that the employees will have to pay for the gift.
I'm not a tax attorney by trade but do remember from my tax classes that paying an employee's income tax as part of their salary is additional income. Basically, your job can't pay your income tax.
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I'm assuming the little 528 Mhz processor on the G1 was really struggling to keep up with the OS.
Cyanogen ROMs have been overclocked for a while now, so I hope he'll work his usual magic and gives us a solid, useable release. I don't mind buying him a couple more beers for it! #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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I seriously (hopefully?) doubt 2.0 will suck down THAT much power over normal. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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The app store is alredy set up that way. Apps don't load off the memory card (which is one main draw back). So regardless of how many tmobile apps they don't preinstall it wouldn't matter in the end. Besides it's a bigger problem than just general free space. It's the partition of the os that's at issue. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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...alright? I could have sworn people were hating on the iphone for the same reason
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I appreciate the G1, but it is still not quite the same level of user experience.
And, the Storm sucks. I decided to stop and play w/ one. It really does have a hideous touch screen interface.
People keep talking about the Pre, but it isn't even out yet so we have no real clue about whether or not it will suck. And here we are 2 years later with Apple of all people dominating the cell phone market mindshare, and making money while doing it.
Weird.
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I passed through the T-Mobile store, and it's sort of depressing these lame choices we have for smartphones. It's mostly Blackberries for Nokia's sake.
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If we're paying for the connection and staying within the limits of "unlimited", then who's to say what device can be connected to it and how?
It's nothing but a way to wring a few more bucks from the customer and it's unfair.
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I think they are showing the lack of sanctioned tethering as an inability of the devices to be able to "talk" to each other, not to make any comparisons or draw any similarities to jailbreaking and non-sanctioned tethering apps.
Pretty sure, anyway.
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That's just me.. and I love my (jailbroken) iPhone, but I also like to keep it fair when bashing the competition. You know, apples to apples, etc.
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Maybe it's just my familiarity with Gizmodo's style that made me see it like I did.
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Yeah it sucks that they're not paying out bonus, but they also lost something like 50%+ of their share price. We're in a new economic reality and things like huge bonuses, and massive employee incentives need to be rethought.
Yeah it's nice to reward your underlings, but it's even nicer to remain in business.
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Google is covering the taxes for this gift; there will be an extra payroll run before the end of the year to cover the taxes. If you have further payroll or HR-related questions about this gift please email [address removed]
I hope Google realizes that the taxpayer is still liable for taxes owed. As well as the tax on the extra payroll to pay for the tax on the phone.
Under the US Tax Code, all income, unless otherwise specified, is income.
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I'm not a tax attorney by trade but do remember from my tax classes that paying an employee's income tax as part of their salary is additional income. Basically, your job can't pay your income tax.
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