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The Lab
11:30 AM

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Seeing two Motorola phones in the "best phones" article makes me feel like I'm in a time warp. I'm glad they're back, they make great quality handsets.
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Mr_Human
11:42 AM

@The Lab: Hah. Not in my experience. I loved my RAZR back in the day, but it was of poor build quality. Needed replacing several times.
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The Lab
02:31 PM

@Mr_Human: Yeah they fell apart, just less frequently than any other phone of that RAZR era. I mean, cast metal hinges, glass screens and laser cut metal keypads. What was made better than that, at the time? Not that Kyocera or LG crap. Possibly Sony Ericsson, they were good. I'd be happy to see them make a comeback as well.
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tande04
10:58 AM

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I guess I hadn't realized how quickly T-mobile had fallen.

Used to be there was no question you'd see the G1 on there but now admittedly its a little outdated and t-mobile insists on holding on to it.

Time to make something happen T-mobile.
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BroScience
11:01 AM

@tande04: it maybe older, but its not outdated. with some tweaks from XDA, it can hold its own against the Cliq.
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tande04
11:05 AM

@BroScience: No doubt but the fact its not on the list speaks volumes to me.

What I was really getting at was that the Cliq is a far inferior phone to the G1 in most ways.
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Badongadoodle
11:54 AM

@tande04: make a list of those inferior ways, please. if you are goint to drop a dump like that - back it up. Ah, and a .2" smaller screen dosnt count.
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MarcusMaximus
12:12 PM

@tande04: That's not really true. The Cliq is equal or better than the G1 in every way. The only way I could see an argument for it being lacking is that so far, as far as I've heard, there's been no luck at getting root on it. That's really just a matter of time, though, and it honestly took a while on the G1 as well.
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OCEntertainment
12:30 PM

@Badongadoodle: I'll offer some input if you promise to never use the phrase "back up that dump" again. ;-)

The CLIQ (last I checked) was running Android 1.5, which means it's already a generation behind. It also disqualifies it from the GPS app. Additionally, the MOTOBLUR interface is a questionable advantage at best. From what I've seen, the Facebook/Twitter integration gadgets are less than stellar and only provide a chaotic view of your network.

I don't think the G1 is head and shoulders above the CLIQ....but I do think it has a little more dignity. If nothing else because it gets the Google Experience branding instead of MOTOBLUR. Sense and Rachael were good improvements on top of Android. I'm less than convinced that MOTOBLUR has such an advantage.
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tande04
01:41 PM

@Badongadoodle: I'll defer to OCEntertainment here and go further and point out just general build qualities. If Moto put out the best they have with the droid then the cliq is certainly the worst. Every review of motoblur has been less than stellar. The widgets add little but sluggishness. The cliq may have more memory but you lose most of it just with blur (not to mention battery life, which on the g1 has been pretty damn good since 1.6).

Then there are other advantages that are debatable but often pointed out.
5 row QWERTY
Dedicated call keys
Secondary pointing device

So the real question would be what does the cliq have that the G1 doesn't?
5.0 camera which is always a debatable inclusion.

Really though I wasn't really trying to say that the G1 is out and out better. Regardless of any other argument I'd say that everyone agreed that the G1 was a flagship phone for t-mobile. I'm amazed if anyone could really say the same for the cliq. Hell even t-mobile still pimps the MyTouch more then they market the cliq.
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anexanhume
10:55 AM

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After having owned an iPhone and now owning a Droid, I'd have to say no to the iphone having the best user interface. If for nothing else than the beautiful shade.
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tande04
11:09 AM

@anexanhume: I just think its funny that people only say that now that the droid came out.

Its the same thing its been from the beginning in most ways. Some tweaks here and there. People must love the flat icons.
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Badongadoodle
11:56 AM

@tande04: I dont know where you have been shopping, but how does a user interface differ with flat icons? Oh yeah, it does not.
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tande04
01:30 PM

@Badongadoodle: That would be the point but thanks for playing.

Besides some changes in settings and other backend stuff what is the main difference between 2.0 and 1.6? Flat icons.

#tips
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Segador
10:53 AM

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But...where's my N-Gage?
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DustyButt™
10:30 AM

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This thread is going to become a total flame fest. Oh well. I have to say. You shouldn't count jailbreaking as a feature. You should weigh the merits out of the box. As far as the iPhone, you shouldn't have to jailbreak or hack a phone to gain functionality.

Everyone has their needs but I have to say, after my real world usage, it's, at the very least, a dead heat between the Droid and the iPhone.

After 3 weeks with the Droid I don't miss my iPhone AT ALL. My only plan for my iPhone is to unlock it and use a prepaid sim when I travel overseas (I'm pretty sure that's possible, if not I'm not too worried).

WTF? ... a jailbroken iPhone on Tmo? Oh well. TMo coverage is trash anyway.
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jakemg
10:45 AM

@DustyButt™: I have a MT3G on Tmobile, and have no problems with coverage in the Chicago area, but I take it you're referring to nationwide coverage. I guess that's true. The fact that I got my phone, which is useable, but not the best, for $40 when I wasn't even eligible for an upgrade softens the blow a bit.
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DustyButt™
10:53 AM

@jakemg: Yeah, I tried to refine and edit my comment but my work browser and this site really don't get along.

Yes, Tmo national coverage is really bad for those who travel regionally.
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OMG! Ponies!
10:12 AM

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matt,

You really need an editor. The best smartphone on AT&T is a Jailbroken iPhone.
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OCEntertainment
10:10 AM

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Honestly the CLIQ seems almost highway robbery at $100, compared with all the other Android phones out there. The more I see of the CLIQ, the less I like it. For myself, I can't stant the iPhone and I'd call an unlocked iPhone the best on T-Mo, if the CLIQ is its competition. The fact that it has 3G powers doesn't overshoot what the iPhone can do. Caveat: if the CLIQ is running Android 1.6, and thus qualifies for the new Maps app, then...maybe.

Also: Droid for $150? Surprising and pleasing.
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fryhole
12:46 PM

@OCEntertainment: T-Mobile's phone prices should always be followed by a *. Side by side the $200 Cliq looks [LUDA]crous next to the $150 Droid, but the phone is more expensive because the plans are so much cheaper. On Verizon an equivalent all-you-can-eat plan costs about $40 more per month.
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OCEntertainment
12:57 PM

@fryhole: Well, the CLIQ is actually $100 at the linked Wal-Mart site (if you don't mind dealing with the devil ;-)). But your point is well-taken.

The thing to consider, though, is network quality. I've been pretty happy on T-Mobile for the most part. I don't get that great 3G reception in my house, but my building can account for a lot of that. When I travel Atlanta, I get pretty good 3G reception most of the time.

However back when I was on Verizon and I took a trip around the U.S, I managed to get cell reception from underneath the Rocky Mountains. I traveled around 20 or 30 states, most of them drive-through states. I never lost reception. This may not be a typical need, but if you do a lot of traveling, or if you don't live in a (sub)urban area, that extra money may be more than worth it.
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Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo
10:07 AM

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I'm pretty sure the Samsung M520 is the best phone you can get on sprint.
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UnderLoK
11:12 AM

@Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo: Um... The Rant is better than that thing.
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daveNYC
11/18/09

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Yeah sure, and it'll come as a combo pack with the Apple tablet.
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OCEntertainment
11/18/09

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I'll see it when I believe it.
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TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H.
11/18/09

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Now if Samsung could just put out an Android version of the SCH W880 ([gizmodo.com]) I would buy it in an instant.
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Sir Gibler
11/18/09

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Well I read this as Google's making an Android phone through a mystery hardware manufacturer... What about the G1 and Droid, didn't Google guide the way for their birth?
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Odin
11/18/09

In reply to The True Google Phone May Be Coming Soon
I'm prepared to call bullcrap, google don't do hardware. Granted there's always a time for them to start but I don't think it's now. I think Google are more interested in keeping their hands clean and just nudging android phone manufacturers on to the right track with their hardware.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
11/18/09

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I'm rooting for Samsung on this one. LG phones are cheap pieces of garbage. #googlephone
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dcdttu
11/18/09

@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: As with many products, only the American versions are cheap. They have decent devices over seas.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
11/18/09

@dcdttu: For some reason that doesn't surprise me at all.
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Red_Flag
11/17/09

In reply to Sprint's HTC Hero Takes Inevitable Price Dip to $100
I've been with Sprint for awhile (out of contract now, so I'm supposed to get a discount...)

Is the Best Buy deal restricted to new contracts or does it include renewals? And if I got the phone via Best Buy, is it still possible to get a plan using Sprint Employee Referral or other such voodoo? #htchero
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COCOViper
11/17/09

@Red_Flag:
I believe BB can't do employee referral accounts. You could always sign up with them and then change your plan- but that may be more work than it's worth. #htchero
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mawcs
11/17/09

@Red_Flag: The image above shows the following text, "with a new Sprint PCS account."

I'm not certain, but I think "new" means "new." #htchero
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Red_Flag
11/17/09

@mawcs: Oh, bravo, Merriam-Webster. Because everyone knows that there is no such thing as fine print, exceptions, or ways to negotiate anything from corporate reps ever, and that all questions and disputes are always solved by a single screenshot of an offer, rather than contracts or paperwork of any sort. Bravo. #htchero
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mawcs
11/18/09

@Red_Flag: How did you know my name is Merriam?

You asked a question, I answered. Sorry you don't like the answer; but if you felt that "negotiating" might get you the same deal, you might have said that in your original comment and save me the effort of being a smart-ass. #htchero
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