As much as I'd love a Core i7 MBP to replace my late 2006 Core 2 Duo 2.33 GHz MBP, I'm not touching any laptop upgrade until they come with USB 3.0/Bluetooth 3.0. Anyone looking to upgrade their laptops really needs to be a little patient at a time like now... #corei7macbookpro
@TheSonOfKrypton: Great point...didint even think of the new USB/BT standards...i was hoping to jump on the current model w/ pricedrop once new ones are out
@TheSonOfKrypton: i know its so sad... i got a decent laptop then they go announce new stuff like usb 3.0 and bluetooth 3.0
and then they make my pain worse by saying its backward compatible... c'mon i need the BEST hardware. its rubbin' it in my face by making me use usb 3.0 hardware with my usb port #corei7macbookpro
@TheSonOfKrypton: Totally agree. USB 3.0 will be a massive update and totally worth the wait. Hell, maybe we'll even see that Light based technology that Intel is working with them on. We can wish for it at least haha. #corei7macbookpro
@TheSonOfKrypton: Yep—Quad Core, USB 3.0/BT 3.0, and mature SSD drives. Still loving my early '07 MBP—only thing that I really desire is the 7-8hr. battery life on the new unibody Macs. #corei7macbookpro
So what is the point of getting an i7 socket MB then not getting an i7 chip with one of the main distinguishing features of the triple channel memory? Why not just save yourself a few hundred dollars and get an i5?
@Nanan00: You're missing the point. These two channel i7s use the LGA1156 socket. That's right, Intel has confused the entire market by making i7 chips on two separate sockets.
@Nanan00: While triple-channel memory is a distinguishing feature of the Nehalem architecture, it's not the sole distinguishing feature. There are numerous other benefits and overall speed increases, even with standard dual channel memory. With the decreased cost but improved power over prior architectures, dual-channel Nehalem may make a nice sweet-spot for gamers on a budget who want to remain faithful to Intel. The suggestion of i5 is spurious, because it doesn't support hyperthreading, but the i7 does. This may signal that i5 is on the outs, eventually.
@met2art: ?? Where have you seen other benefits with dual channel? If anything, Lynnfield is better because of a less restrained turbo mode. Did you see the tests, and the numerous previews before? This review is not much of a surprise. Triple channel and the QPI is what gives socket 1366 its potential advantage, though as Anand says this potential will be better served with upcoming 6- and 8-core chips. Then the differentiation will be obvious.
@andyo: Did I say dual-channel was a benefit? I don't recall that. Note: "even with dual channel memory" is a key part of the comment. Hyperthreading and other advancement sin the i7 architecture, over i5, make some compelling points, if the pricepoint is equivalent to i5. Although, mileage may vary, and it will depend greatly upon the mobo as well.
@met2art: There's been some confusion. When you said "Nehalem architecture", I now see you were including both Bloomfield and Lynnfield and comparing them to previous architectures (like Core). But the OP was confused about differences between sockets 1366 and 1156, so I thought you were comparing between those. Basically his question was why have an i7 on 1156, if you can't take advantage of triple channel. The reason is hyper threading, pretty much, but really the answer is that these Lynnfield i7's are much more similar to the i5 than to the Bloomfield i7's.
I think what people should be more focused on isn't how long the battery lasts in one use, but how many years the battery will last while still getting a full charge.
My Dell laptop battery used to get me about 4.5 hours (undervolted) of battery life when I used to use it in class, but now it lasts maybe 2 hours at most. I've actually had the battery die on me by leaving it in sleep mode for a day.
@chorx: Apparently you enjoy paying to support monopolies that overcharge as much as possible. This is how we got Microsoft, no competition meant no reason to price competitively. Now we're paying $400 for a new OS when it comes out, and $300 for a decent Office suit. Maybe if you have so much money to spare you should spread the wealth a little bit.
@soccer1105: @EqualOpportunityCrasher: i apologize if I'm wrong, but you guys seem to have misunderstood "bulldozer". It's an entirely new architecture with SSE5 instructions.
@EqualOpportunityCrasher: AMD's been tight-lipped but supposedly Bulldozer is an architectural leap beyond Nehalim.... whether it will materialize before Intel makes yet another advance is the real question.
How much power does any one of us really need? I mean this is a ridiculously powerful processor for most tasks. So it might take a few more seconds doing a video job here or a few frames off a game set on killer than the best Intel piece.
Do we really want AMD to go away? Not if we like decent prices and continued improvement.
If AMD dies, we lose a lot more than just an alternative.
I always try to buy and promote AMD and will do so until they get more of a footing against a huge and very, very good Intel. I have yet to be dissappointed with any AMD products in the recent past.
@Pootie Tang: There's no need to apologize for AMD when they clearly bested intel on some of the tests.
They are competitive for the moment, and the review says so, but points out that they will need to make further architectural improvements to stay competitive, as intel is already set on an easier performance growth path.
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and then they make my pain worse by saying its backward compatible... c'mon i need the BEST hardware. its rubbin' it in my face by making me use usb 3.0 hardware with my usb port #corei7macbookpro
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Still cant afford them and wont be able to for a while, but can always drool over them. #corei7macbookpro
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My Dell laptop battery used to get me about 4.5 hours (undervolted) of battery life when I used to use it in class, but now it lasts maybe 2 hours at most. I've actually had the battery die on me by leaving it in sleep mode for a day.
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In fact I JUST built twin Core i7 gaming systems this past weekend for my bro-in law and I running Windows 7 64 too!
I've always sworn by Intel CPUs and chipsets for their reliability, but my mind is blown with the Core i7.
Newegg actually GAVE AWAY AMD CPUs with our orders!
Now I have three of these "brisbane" things sitting around taking up space.
So anyway, good luck.
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Do we really want AMD to go away? Not if we like decent prices and continued improvement.
If AMD dies, we lose a lot more than just an alternative.
I always try to buy and promote AMD and will do so until they get more of a footing against a huge and very, very good Intel. I have yet to be dissappointed with any AMD products in the recent past.
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They are competitive for the moment, and the review says so, but points out that they will need to make further architectural improvements to stay competitive, as intel is already set on an easier performance growth path.
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