@Tamar Weinberg: i'm sure that's just the resolution of the base configuration. when you want to configure your machine i'm 100% positive that you'll have the option to upgrade to a higher res screen.
@Voohoo: Before I wrote the above comment, I went to the Dell page linked in this article, chose their most expensive option, and didn't get an option to pay more to get a 1920x1200 display. I'm not sure where @ForestFire0 is seeing what I'm not, but 1920x1080 is still less screen real estate than I'm used to.
Call me too stubborn and too fixated on the 16:9. It's going to be a hard adjustment for me, I suppose, and I've been craving a touchscreen laptop for awhile. Hopefully the 1920x1200 option will be something I'll see in the foreseeable future. I'm glad I'm not in any hurry to buy a new machine.
@Tamar Weinberg: hm, i just went to the Dell page that was linked in this article. if you go to the Studio 17 option all the way to the right ($1099) and choose to personalize it you will get numerous HD display options for it including 1080p. the other Studio 17 options they show seem to be the older models which only offer the archaic screen res. well anyway, the dang touch screen Studio laptop isn't even out yet so know one can prove anything yet. BUT i'm still very sure there will be at least a 1080p option.
Damnit! That's crazy! I have a family member considering a new iMac, and I've told them already to just ignore the Core2Duo options, because the gains from the i5 are so great, but I had no idea the i7's would make such a large performance boost. . . #imaccorei7benchmarks
@Identity (Metric): i'm on the edge of my chair everyday waiting for the i7's to finally ship I want mine so bad! 8 gigs of ram is going to be so much fun to work with haha #imaci5speed
@johnnyabnormal: I *think* the answer is technically no, but more of a yes and no answer: Logic 9 supposedly offers better multi-core support, but is not yet optimized for Snow Leopard.
Since Logic does support multi-cores, and Logic SL support will only improve, if you're contemplating getting an iMac for Logic, I would definitely get an i5/i7.
@frigg: You bet your ass I'm upgrading soon! I have noticed that Logic Pro doesn't use all the cores in the G5 Quad. The latest version doesn't even run on a G5. The new iMac quad core configuration is actually more powerful than the G5 I have now, but I might wait till January to see what kind of beast is unleashed at the Mac Expo. #imaci5speed
@johnnyabnormal: If you are looking at a Mac Pro to replace the G5, keep in mind Apple has just been ploping them out into the market whenever, instead of releasing them at events. Most likely the Mac Pros will move to the Gulftown Xeons, meaning 6 and 12 core (12 and 24 with hyperthreading) beast boxes. #imaci5speed
@johnnyabnormal: I feel you...I wonder how good an iMac would really be at replacing a tower for Logic, how much you'd miss in terms of extra drives, cards, etc., for all that all-in-one goodness.
On another note, if you record enable a track, Logic tends to limit multi-core processing on purpose as a way to reduce latency (single core processing currently produces less latency than distributed processing across multiple cores).
As far as compatibility, Logic 9 will actually run on a G5, even though Apple doesn't officially support it.
But the writing's on the wall, and a new Logic ad to encourage hardware upgrades is reportedly in production that ends with a loin-clothed wrapped Charleton Heston fleeing a pack of malicious, talking apes only to discover a giant G5 Quad sticking out of a post apocalyptic beach sometime in Earth's future, attempting to boot up the latest version of Logic, generating a spinning beach ball of death and, screaming "Damn you! Damn You To Hell!!" drops to his knees in utter despair.... replaced by a 3 second full screen picture of one of Apple's shiny new iMacs. So, you know, maybe that is the way to go? #imaci5speed
As far as the cores go, if it doesn't using an i7 would be bad news because they use HT (hyper thread) which means that each core is split in two (not literally) and if the application doesn't support multiple cores it will run even slower than it would on a C2D.
@frigg: I'm also tempted to just get a bunch of servers and hook up some fiber/raid goodness for the bazillion orchestral samples I have. Even better to get them in another room so I don't have to hear the drives. #imaci5speed
Wow, I am really looking forward to building my own PC. But that 27" iMac with the i7 chip is making it difficult. At $2200, it's very difficult to build what I want with a with a 27" back-lit LED LCD monitor for much cheaper than the iMac.
...It's the monitor that kills my PC build's price. There isn't much available for that size/quality for a reasonable amount of $$$.
Also, yeah, the PC is still cheaper, but not by much. And when you consider that I plan on Hackintosh'ing it up, the pain factor goes up by a rather large amount. Not having to worry about any updates would be a nice plus. Kinda makes the now much smaller price difference pretty negligible.
...this iMac has kinda killed the Apple-tax (except for Mac Pro's).
@newgalactic: Yeah a 27" LED Back-lit IPS panel would run you about 1500 on the cheap side; if it was available yet.
As a previous hardcore gamer/build my own pc type i have been perfectly satisfied with my last gen high end iMac with the 3.06, 4gb ram and 8800gts. I play aion on high, cant play crysis on high but meh. My old rig (and now media server) was a q6600, 4gb ram and twin 8800 gtx's.
The one thing i just couldnt beat in price--and why i didnt buy a mac pro at the time-- was the 24" ips panel built in, which just rocks for working on and is pretty fucking awesome for gaming.
@newgalactic: I'm almost in the seat beside in that boat. I'll admit these new macs are actually kinda fairly priced by Apple's standards. And I'm also wanting to build my own PC in the next few months from scratch. (Well I bought a new 24" monitor recently to hook up to my laptop for starters...) The only aesthetic part I don't like about the new imacs is the sharp corners on the black screen's edge, I think the rounded ones would've looked much better.
Still I think input/output ports are kinda limited overall on macs, and building me a PC seems it would be a much more convenient road. Coupled with the fact that I'm a PC guy and want to get my hands in building a PC means I'll going with option a) Building a computer. (New macs do honestly look tempting with the specs n' all, but Windows is better for me, and I don't respect Apple)
@newgalactic: You also have to take into consideration that the screens are IPS.
It really depend on what you want. You want the nice design? iMac. You want to not be stuck with your specs and update when you feel like it? Hackintosh #imaci5speed
@oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...: I'd say give it 20 years before that even begins to be feasible. It takes a lot more than just processing power to decode and code neurological information. We need to learn more about the brain, and the hardware would have to be able to adapt to each person's uniquely connected brain. #imaci5speed
@sqlrob: Well I'm thinking more theoretically. For example a drink brand like Coke is going to last a lot longer than a tech brand (or so I imagine, a lot of tech hasn't been around as long as Coke). #imaci5speed
Damn... I love me some multi-threaded 64 bit goodness, regardless of the OS or platform... Might be time to upgrade and turn the G5 tower into a closet server. #imaci5speed
@hfutrell: to explain myself a little more ... the G5 has 120-140 watts idle power usage ... more if you've installed more RAM or additional hard drives. Leave that thing on 24-7-365 and you're looking at paying an extra $130-150 per year in electricity bills (based on 12 cents per kilowatt hour). #imaci5speed
As much as I'd love a Core i7 MBP to replace my late 2006 Core 2 Duo 2.33 GHz MBP, I'm not touching any laptop upgrade until they come with USB 3.0/Bluetooth 3.0. Anyone looking to upgrade their laptops really needs to be a little patient at a time like now... #corei7macbookpro
@TheSonOfKrypton: Great point...didint even think of the new USB/BT standards...i was hoping to jump on the current model w/ pricedrop once new ones are out
@TheSonOfKrypton: i know its so sad... i got a decent laptop then they go announce new stuff like usb 3.0 and bluetooth 3.0
and then they make my pain worse by saying its backward compatible... c'mon i need the BEST hardware. its rubbin' it in my face by making me use usb 3.0 hardware with my usb port #corei7macbookpro
@TheSonOfKrypton: Totally agree. USB 3.0 will be a massive update and totally worth the wait. Hell, maybe we'll even see that Light based technology that Intel is working with them on. We can wish for it at least haha. #corei7macbookpro
@TheSonOfKrypton: Yep—Quad Core, USB 3.0/BT 3.0, and mature SSD drives. Still loving my early '07 MBP—only thing that I really desire is the 7-8hr. battery life on the new unibody Macs. #corei7macbookpro
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I stopped there. My Dell XPS M1710 has a 1920x1200 resolution. I'll wait for the Studio 17 Touch to allow for a little more real estate.
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Call me too stubborn and too fixated on the 16:9. It's going to be a hard adjustment for me, I suppose, and I've been craving a touchscreen laptop for awhile. Hopefully the 1920x1200 option will be something I'll see in the foreseeable future. I'm glad I'm not in any hurry to buy a new machine.
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Of course, I'm going to install 8 gigs of ram without paying Apple to do it. :) #imaci5speed
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Since Logic does support multi-cores, and Logic SL support will only improve, if you're contemplating getting an iMac for Logic, I would definitely get an i5/i7.
Looking to replace that G5 Quad? ;) #imaci5speed
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On another note, if you record enable a track, Logic tends to limit multi-core processing on purpose as a way to reduce latency (single core processing currently produces less latency than distributed processing across multiple cores).
As far as compatibility, Logic 9 will actually run on a G5, even though Apple doesn't officially support it.
But the writing's on the wall, and a new Logic ad to encourage hardware upgrades is reportedly in production that ends with a loin-clothed wrapped Charleton Heston fleeing a pack of malicious, talking apes only to discover a giant G5 Quad sticking out of a post apocalyptic beach sometime in Earth's future, attempting to boot up the latest version of Logic, generating a spinning beach ball of death and, screaming "Damn you! Damn You To Hell!!" drops to his knees in utter despair.... replaced by a 3 second full screen picture of one of Apple's shiny new iMacs. So, you know, maybe that is the way to go? #imaci5speed
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As far as the cores go, if it doesn't using an i7 would be bad news because they use HT (hyper thread) which means that each core is split in two (not literally) and if the application doesn't support multiple cores it will run even slower than it would on a C2D.
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...It's the monitor that kills my PC build's price. There isn't much available for that size/quality for a reasonable amount of $$$.
Also, yeah, the PC is still cheaper, but not by much. And when you consider that I plan on Hackintosh'ing it up, the pain factor goes up by a rather large amount. Not having to worry about any updates would be a nice plus. Kinda makes the now much smaller price difference pretty negligible.
...this iMac has kinda killed the Apple-tax (except for Mac Pro's).
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As a previous hardcore gamer/build my own pc type i have been perfectly satisfied with my last gen high end iMac with the 3.06, 4gb ram and 8800gts. I play aion on high, cant play crysis on high but meh. My old rig (and now media server) was a q6600, 4gb ram and twin 8800 gtx's.
The one thing i just couldnt beat in price--and why i didnt buy a mac pro at the time-- was the 24" ips panel built in, which just rocks for working on and is pretty fucking awesome for gaming.
Sorry for my lame rant. #imaci5speed
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Still I think input/output ports are kinda limited overall on macs, and building me a PC seems it would be a much more convenient road. Coupled with the fact that I'm a PC guy and want to get my hands in building a PC means I'll going with option a) Building a computer. (New macs do honestly look tempting with the specs n' all, but Windows is better for me, and I don't respect Apple)
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It really depend on what you want. You want the nice design? iMac. You want to not be stuck with your specs and update when you feel like it? Hackintosh #imaci5speed
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Moore's Law FTW. #imaci5speed
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Will the iMac brand still exist though? How long can a brand like this last? #imaci5speed
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"Whadda ya know! its working." #imaci5speed
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Nintendo is over 120 years old... #imaci5speed
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Its still impressive. #imaci5speed
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/Doesn't Care #imaci5speed
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and then they make my pain worse by saying its backward compatible... c'mon i need the BEST hardware. its rubbin' it in my face by making me use usb 3.0 hardware with my usb port #corei7macbookpro
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Still cant afford them and wont be able to for a while, but can always drool over them. #corei7macbookpro