Isn't Safari based on WebKit? And isn't WebKit the basis for a lot of mobile device browsers? Seems interesting if the browser core that is used in mobile devices is the one that wastes the most power.
@jdale: Apple didn't do a good job on making Safari for Windows very stream lined like they do for everything else. For one thing, the font rendering it does is not native in windows so it has to eat up extra cycles just to make fonts all pretty and mac like. It is the only browser that I am aware of on Windows that does this.
I have been, unfortunately, using Safari 4 for a while now, but this officially confirmed my switch back to Firefox (for about the fifth time). Also, does anyone know if these results are accurate on OSX?
@mr.leman: I can sort of attest for it being the same. Safari 4 is pretty power hungry simply because it uses so much flashy shit like the popular sites page. I mean, really, do I need to have the sites I visit most highlighted in GPU accellerated glory?
@mr.leman: I was actually surprised seeing as though FF uses 500+mb of ram during long/heavy browsing. My MB gets crap battery life, but I've never bothered comparing (I use FF and wouldn't think of changing).
IE8 is, so to say, bad.
Firefox, so to say, is good.
Adblock, so to say, is awesome.
7 minutes, so to say, is not life-or-death time difference.
When someone asks me what browser to use, so to say, I say Firefox with Adblock.
So, to say, Firefox + adblock trumps IE8.
Hell, Firefox by itself (so to say) is better than IE8.
@Bawb - The One, The Only, The Builder: I don't block ads because the sites I visit need the revenue and if we all blocked the ads the sites wouldn't exist.
Maybe if I spent the day looking at anime porn I would install it... ;)
@outie: Yea I hate those ads that pay the bills. I mean this is the internet, everything is free, why should we have to look at ads I mean the site has to pay for itself.
ie8 might have the longest run time but if you're clicking around a lot, you'll lose a second or two loading webpages (at least when compared to firefox) and waste even more time if you're on pages w/ flash
@Weihovah: Yeah, this is a fair point. Also, mouse gestures and various streamlining extensions make me much more efficient on FF or Opera than on IE8, so the extra time might not necessarily mean much.
@John Herrman: Personally speaking, all I use is right click + t, right click +k, ctrl+t, backspace, and that is about it. For whatever reason I can't seem to get into the other ones just because I don't use them enough.
What about on a mac? Certainly there will be differences because all but 2 of those browsers are offered to the average mac user, and certainly there will be some battery life differentiations across different OS's.
@UnderLoK: I supposed officially there is one. But Chrome came out in dev mode for the Mac, and it is surprisingly good, except with no flash support and some crashes. I hope they hurry up with the beta and then the proper release!
@nightwheel: curious as to why so many "windows" users think us "apple" users are so anti-windows, when they themselves have this utter HATE for apple.
Stop the hate, try it, if it's not for you, move on. The constant bashing of apple products is tired and played out. 90% of the haters haven't even tried out OS X, Apple products, or anything, just HATE them because it's "cool".
BTW, I don't make the apple ads, just a user, I find some of them funny, some of them are kind of pointless. I know the retort is going to be then apple should stop hating windows/pc's with their adverts.
IE (6,7,8) I hate to break it to you on all sides of the fence is a browser that is just not well liked. By developers, for many reasons. Anything, and I mean anything is pretty much better, except where some stupid ass app developer ONLY develops for it.
@beekerstudios: Because windows users get fed a load of BS about how great things like iTunes are and then they have the distinct displeasure of actually using it on a Windows machine.
Doesn't matter, though, if you want good battery life use linux and browse with Elinks (no flash for you!)
I wrote this crappy python script the last time this was announced if anyone wants to download a lot of copies. Tab spacing is important, it's python...
Oh, and the download link might not work anymore so test before you run it.
import os
import sys
while 1:
(tab)try:
(tab)(tab)os.system('wget [download.microsoft.com]')
(tab)(tab)os.system('rm IE8-*')
(tab)except KeyboardInterrupt:
(tab)(tab)print "Ctrl+c, exiting"
(tab)(tab)sys.exit(0)
edit: replace [download.microsoft.com] with the static link.
@mricyfire: You mean other than they maliciously tried (and effectively succeeded) to drive competing web browsers completely out of the market, and while they were at it they were complete and utter dicks about the whole thing?
Nothing.
You mean other than thumb their nose at international html, xml, and browser display standards after pledging to follow them so that web designers have to develop 2 versions of every web page. One that looks OK in IE, and one that looks OK for the rest of the browsers that ARE standards compliant?
@mricyfire: Well because they are moving folks away from one of the largest problems to internet security to a more secure version. And as in incentive there giving food to poor folk (maybe not in the country where it will be most appreciated but still) This is of course clearly an Evil act.
A much more philanthropic act would be to fudge a hardrives accounting dept.
@Lite: killed Dumbledore: What other ones? Mosaic? Mosaic was killed by Netscape not to mention MS PAID them to use their engine (yes IE ran on Mosaic's engine).
Netscape killed all browsers that ran off of Mosaic (and there were plenty) when it was created. The two browsers were IE and Netscape. Just because some guy made a browser out of his basement that only loaded 1/4 of the sites out there doesn't mean MS squished it. Opera is the only other one in that time frame that could have been affected, but it wasn't because no one used it. This had nothing to do with MS, it had to do with the fact that it didn't work and was beyond buggy.
The time frame that MS was big and bad was the mid-late 90's and in that time frame (over 10 years ago I might add) they flexed every muscle they had against Netscape and they paid for it.
It's also worth mention that we all gained from them killing Netscape as well. It a bizzaro way they are responsible for Firefox's existence. They made their own bed sorta speak which is rather ironic.
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Cause, you know, FF is Gecko.
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I'm curious, though; how would Seamonkey fare?
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Even with the loss in life compares to IE it's not like any of us are going to switch to IE.
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...sorry... Typos sometimes amuse me.
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Damn! I did it to myself! D:<
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Firefox, so to say, is good.
Adblock, so to say, is awesome.
7 minutes, so to say, is not life-or-death time difference.
When someone asks me what browser to use, so to say, I say Firefox with Adblock.
So, to say, Firefox + adblock trumps IE8.
Hell, Firefox by itself (so to say) is better than IE8.
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Maybe if I spent the day looking at anime porn I would install it... ;)
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@John Herrman: Personally speaking, all I use is right click + t, right click +k, ctrl+t, backspace, and that is about it. For whatever reason I can't seem to get into the other ones just because I don't use them enough.
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Stop the hate, try it, if it's not for you, move on. The constant bashing of apple products is tired and played out. 90% of the haters haven't even tried out OS X, Apple products, or anything, just HATE them because it's "cool".
BTW, I don't make the apple ads, just a user, I find some of them funny, some of them are kind of pointless. I know the retort is going to be then apple should stop hating windows/pc's with their adverts.
IE (6,7,8) I hate to break it to you on all sides of the fence is a browser that is just not well liked. By developers, for many reasons. Anything, and I mean anything is pretty much better, except where some stupid ass app developer ONLY develops for it.
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@beekerstudios: Because windows users get fed a load of BS about how great things like iTunes are and then they have the distinct displeasure of actually using it on a Windows machine.
Doesn't matter, though, if you want good battery life use linux and browse with Elinks (no flash for you!)
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Wow man, that was great...
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Hell yeah we're stealing their food. They sure as hell don't have anything else to steal!
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Oh, and the download link might not work anymore so test before you run it.
import os
import sys
while 1:
(tab)try:
(tab)(tab)os.system('wget [download.microsoft.com]')
(tab)(tab)os.system('rm IE8-*')
(tab)except KeyboardInterrupt:
(tab)(tab)print "Ctrl+c, exiting"
(tab)(tab)sys.exit(0)
edit: replace [download.microsoft.com] with the static link.
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Nothing.
You mean other than thumb their nose at international html, xml, and browser display standards after pledging to follow them so that web designers have to develop 2 versions of every web page. One that looks OK in IE, and one that looks OK for the rest of the browsers that ARE standards compliant?
Nothing.
Where exactly would you want me to start?
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I meant more the money thing comment, I don't use IE firefox and chrome and safari on the iphone.
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A much more philanthropic act would be to fudge a hardrives accounting dept.
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Netscape killed all browsers that ran off of Mosaic (and there were plenty) when it was created. The two browsers were IE and Netscape. Just because some guy made a browser out of his basement that only loaded 1/4 of the sites out there doesn't mean MS squished it. Opera is the only other one in that time frame that could have been affected, but it wasn't because no one used it. This had nothing to do with MS, it had to do with the fact that it didn't work and was beyond buggy.
The time frame that MS was big and bad was the mid-late 90's and in that time frame (over 10 years ago I might add) they flexed every muscle they had against Netscape and they paid for it.
It's also worth mention that we all gained from them killing Netscape as well. It a bizzaro way they are responsible for Firefox's existence. They made their own bed sorta speak which is rather ironic.