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Voyou_Charmant
12/04/08

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Scientology.
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SynMonger
12/04/08

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"...continue to boldly sell their crappy PCs running Hackintosh..."

What makes them crappy, exactly? I guess I missed the big Psystar computer review on Giz last month =/
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AmishJohn
12/04/08

@SynMonger: They're chappy because they're assembled too far away from the RDF.
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dropdeadcriminal
12/04/08

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So the Steveness has finally completely lost it.
"The evil men are out to get me."
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AmishJohn
12/04/08

@dropdeadcriminal: "Help! Help! I'm being repressed! Come see the violence inheritent in the system!"
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
12/04/08

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So we've gone from Joe the Plumber to John Doe the Hacker...?
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reddingofish
12/04/08

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Why hasn't Apple ever gone after Freespire Linux. It looks just like OSX.

[www.freespire.org]
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
12/04/08

@reddingofish: Looks far more like Windows to me TBH>
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
12/04/08

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It was Steve Ballmer, in his G5, with the suitcase containing one billion dollars.
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harshmellow
12/04/08

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Holy shit! Jobs has Robert Duvall and Diane Keaton circa 1974 on his side! He is awesomer than we ever could have imagined.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
12/04/08

@harshmellow: Don't tell anyone but Apple's Time Capsule isn't just for backing up data...
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alexmetal
12/04/08

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The real question here is: Where did Jobs get that bitchin' tie?
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William_III_Earl_of_Dastardshire
12/04/08

@alexmetal: Might be some partner look thing with the lady with equally tasteful dress and haircut behind him.
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GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee
12/04/08

@William_III_of_Dastardshire: That's "Lisa".
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Shnyzx
12/04/08

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I understand where they are coming from with the initial scandal about "finding" Psystar, but I think Apple needs to let this go. I know they make a good product but it is technically a monopoly and a little competition never hurt the consumer.
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LazyPanda
12/04/08

@Shnyzx: I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious how it's "technically a monopoly".

After all, Coke only comes in Coke cans and bottles.
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CaliBoom
12/04/08

@LazyPanda: but you could easily "reformat" your Coke bottle and put Pepsi in it and it would not violate your Coke EULA. In addition, you can also take that Coke and put it in a glass and not violate your EULA.

According to Apple, OSX is ONLY usable on Mac hardware (Coke liquid ONLY drinkable in a Coke bottle)

While Windows (Pepsi) can be run on any hardware (cups, saucers, mugs, Coke bottles, even Smirnov bottles) without violating their EULA.
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Macgyver
12/04/08

@CaliBoom: Yes, but Pepsi can't sell Coke in their bottles and vice versa. What you do with your Coke and Pepsi and their respective bottles at home is your business. The issue here isn't just the EULA. It's the company that's breaking the EULA as part of actually selling a product.
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hexydes
12/04/08

@Macgyver: The only reason they can't do that is because they have a trademark on their logo. Using your argument, it would be like Psystar taking their own OS, putting it in a Mac OS X box, and selling it as Mac OS. Here, they are just taking a purchased copy of Mac OS X and re-selling it. The ONLY questionable part is their breaking the code that locks Mac OS X to Apple hardware, and the EULA that might or might not protect against this action (which has not been proven in a court of law).

Basically, Apple are being douchebags. They want to take a mostly open platform, put their operating system on it, and then modify that hardware to work in tangent with their system so that the system won't work on any other hardware. If they wanted to play that game, they should have stuck with proprietary chips.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
12/04/08

@hexydes: Right, but that isn't against the law. The sell you the right to use the software, not the software itself. By agreeing to open/install the software you agree to the EULA.

Really what this is about, is that you're upset that what Apple is doing is legal, and you can't/won't afford the 'legally permissible hardware' that the EULA specifies.

So, no they're not being douchebags, they're doing what they've always done. Which is attempt to control the user experience to ensure that the product performs according to their intent and design. Disney does this at their theme parks. It is a fairly closed environment where they attempt to control the experience had. Should Disney be sued because we cannot copy the Tower of Terror?

Apple's business model is no different than any other company that sells a turnkey operation. Why aren't people angry that Cisco's FWSM systems cannot be installed on a PC? It's a linux/intel platform. What about the rest of the network appliance world? Or companies that sell turnkey POS systems. IBM's POS systems are basically Intel PC's w/ customized cases, displays, and a Linux OS these days.
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