this is worse than the US banning full size bulbs in ceiling fan light fixtures. i have to use those cutsie 25w POS bulbs that don't light a room for shizpoo and then i have to bring in another lamp. yeah, really saving money there jerks.
lampshade: is it on? bulb: awww c'mon. don't make me.
I've had a couple CFL's burn out on me within days of installing them. Not very good for something that's supposed to last a really long time. And then the whole disposal issue is a real pain in the backside...
I'd buy this if only to prevent bulbs shattering. Safety bulbs with a coating to catch any breaks are expensive, and this could be re-usable. For things like trouble lights, where some sweat can explode the bulb, and there almost always being a chance of dropping, these would be perfect.
@pagan_god: I once watched a Public Television Science Show where the host tried to break a lightbulb to show the filament. He placed it in an manila envelope and hit it with a hammer. After the 4th try, he finally did it. And he was hitting it with a 16oz hammer. They are pretty strong when cold. They are less so when warm/hot.
@Kaiser-Machead: Except where they meet the socket metal and snap off forcing you to get out pliers, a broom, and a few other things to unscrew the damn thing.
@Illiterate?EmailMeForHelp_GitEmSteveDave: If it took four tries, it was because he was trying to _not_ destroy the filament, not because the bulb was shrugging off the hammer blows like they were being administered by a feather duster. Yes, you would have a hard time crushing a small bulb within your hand (no, don't give it a try), but hammer on one side and table on the other results in a very uneven distribution of force. The only reason they don't always break when you drop them on a hard floor is because they don't have much inertia when they're only falling a few feet.
@dufus: Well you can't use an incandescent in the bathroom either. At least not in the United States. Of course I've seen them in bathrooms thousands of times, but it's supposed to be against electrical code to have anything but florescent in there.
@Morgan Breden: Houses or institutional buildings? Because I could buy that whole "flourescent in the bathrooms" thing a lot more if it referred specifically to dorms and hospitals and such. If it was against code, every Lowe's and Home Depot in the country wouldn't have vanity fixtures set up with incandescents.
Now, are you maybe getting incandescents mixed up with halogens? Because I could totally see them not wanting to have you use those near a steamy shower.
Here's an idea: start taxing lightbulbs based on lumens per watt. That promotes innovation and punishes the inefficient.
I think that's more sensible than creating artificial markets for aftermarket "bulb enhancers", or worse, creates a black market for banned bulbs that undermines the energy savings while lining the pockets of criminals.
They force sellers to and makers to stop selling them, they will ban the import of them and after a couple of years the frosted light bulb will disappear.
Banning frosted incandescent bulbs? What are they gonna do? Goosestep up to their porches and smash them out of their sockets hooligan style? Maybe people should be able to use these inefficient bulbs if they so choose.
Why so dickish Europe? I know Microsoft hates you, but do you want the rest of us to hate you too? Suck on your mercury!
@Kaiser-Machead: They'll probably do the same thing as up here, where they won't be illegal to use, but stores won't be able to sell them. I wonder what the black market's going to be on bulbs in a couple of years.
@Kaiser-Machead: that's the direction everyone is going in. forget freedom, we must be efficient. why should the government care if you prefer incandescent over CFLs?
your freedoms are inefficient, therefore are void.
@mr_deadpool: Because at some point the whole of society has to quit being juvenile and naive about the impact we have on the planet and start taking responsibility for what we take, use, and trash. Unfortunately the fewer rules we have as a people an the more materialistic and superficial we become, the more we are apt to abuse whatever freedoms we have to the point of creating a toxic situation, although using outdated technology like frosted bulbs is more a privilege than a right and using some of the alternatives is a far wiser and cheaper choice in the long run.
@jessedybka: So the mafia will be stocking up on frosted light bulbs? I pity the poor drug importer or pimp who will be affected by this sudden political turn.
@JoeKhurr: To the point of creating a toxic situation? Like people suddenly throwing away a few hundred thousand mercury filled CFLs into the dump because they're too lazy to recycle properly? Or, there is no market for recycling the bulbs?
This is also the same EU that has emissions standards that greatly exceed those in the US for cars btw. Ever see how much soot is allowed to escape from a diesel vehicle there?
Don't expect to see this done with CFLs. An incandescent bulb's lumens are determined by the thickness of that tiny little filament in that great huge glass enclosure. Want more power? Beef up the filament, but don't worry about the glass part. CFLs get their lumens from the surface area of the light tube. Want more power? Make the bulb bigger. There are 300w-equivalent CFLs that have coils that are bigger than my fist (and that's not counting the ballast and the screw-in plug, the former of which also sorta needs to be bigger at that point). Making a CFL bulb smaller to look cutesy like that will likely result in something in an absolute cap of about 10-15w equivalent.
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If it took four tries, it was because he was trying to _not_ destroy the filament, not because the bulb was shrugging off the hammer blows like they were being administered by a feather duster. Yes, you would have a hard time crushing a small bulb within your hand (no, don't give it a try), but hammer on one side and table on the other results in a very uneven distribution of force. The only reason they don't always break when you drop them on a hard floor is because they don't have much inertia when they're only falling a few feet.
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They're gonna have to make them a BIT more durable. You can't even use them outside or in wet locations like the bathroom.
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Houses or institutional buildings? Because I could buy that whole "flourescent in the bathrooms" thing a lot more if it referred specifically to dorms and hospitals and such. If it was against code, every Lowe's and Home Depot in the country wouldn't have vanity fixtures set up with incandescents.
Now, are you maybe getting incandescents mixed up with halogens? Because I could totally see them not wanting to have you use those near a steamy shower.
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I think that's more sensible than creating artificial markets for aftermarket "bulb enhancers", or worse, creates a black market for banned bulbs that undermines the energy savings while lining the pockets of criminals.
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They force sellers to and makers to stop selling them, they will ban the import of them and after a couple of years the frosted light bulb will disappear.
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Why so dickish Europe? I know Microsoft hates you, but do you want the rest of us to hate you too? Suck on your mercury!
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your freedoms are inefficient, therefore are void.
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This is also the same EU that has emissions standards that greatly exceed those in the US for cars btw. Ever see how much soot is allowed to escape from a diesel vehicle there?
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