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doctorSpoc
01/14/09

In reply to Apple Approves New Browsers in App Store, As Long As They're Based On Safari
ok, you guys are officially idiots!

you have it bass akward... safari is based on webkit, not the other way around. how the hell can you be writing this story and not have any idea of what the hell your are talking about.

webkit come from the rendering engine from the konqueror browser that was used as a part of KDE (an open source UNIX windowing system).. apple used the open source code and has been adding to the project ever since..

webkit is not even a browser it's a rendering engine... Google Chrome and Palms new bowser also used webkit actually lots of new browsers use it and are adding to the code base... it's not an apple or a safari thing at all..

idiots!
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Jim Topoleski
01/14/09

@doctorSpoc: This has been typical of late. Its what happens when you have a blog being run by people who are tech addicts, but not necessarily tech savvy. Unfortunately more often than not it means the wrong information is put out there, as unlike reporters, bloggers have a tendency to write now, research after the fact, though a lot of reporters as of late like to do that too.
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apt94jesse
01/14/09

@doctorSpoc: I don't see the issue. They said "but they're all based on Safari's WebKit." I guess technically it's not only Safari's webkit rendering engine, but do you really expect them to site the history all the way back.

"these browsers are based on webkit, which is safari's rendering engine, which apple took from konqueror, which is kde's browser, which is a graphical desktop environment for many linux distributions, linux of course being the brainchild of Linus Trovalds, grandson of poet Ole Torvalds..."

Seriously, if people don't know that webkit is Safari's rendering engine then they're not paying much attention anyhow. Lighten up.
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Jim Topoleski
01/14/09

@apt94jesse: Except they make it sound like its Apples which it isnt. Google, Palm, even some forks of Mozilla are all including aspects of Webkit into their browsers as of late.

Saying it has to be "based" on Safari is just plain wrong, as Chrome is certainly not based on Safari.

Face it, it was poor reporting.
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frigg
01/14/09

@Jim Topoleski: My cat's breath smell's like cat food. WTF?
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John Herrman
01/14/09

@Jim Topoleski: Dudes, the main issue is that you can only implement browsing functions in your app if it calls on Safari's engine. Yes, that's WebKit. But it's Apple's fork of WebKit, not any other--you couldn't use Chrome's, for example.

The issue is that the rendering engine does not vary from the one in Safari's, so these aren't really new browsers.
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Inception
01/14/09

In reply to Apple Approves New Browsers in App Store, As Long As They're Based On Safari
How about they make a "stable" version of Safari instead?
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biikman
01/14/09

@Inception:

no kidding! While the crashes have been less frequent with 2.2, they still happen and it is damn annoying.
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EBone
01/14/09

@biikman: My crashes occur on Javascript heavy pages. There is an option in the preferences for Safari to turn Java off.
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verythrax
01/14/09

In reply to Apple Approves New Browsers in App Store, As Long As They're Based On Safari
As Long As They're Based On WebKit, you mean.
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John Herrman
01/14/09

@verythrax: Sort of, but not quite.

It doesn't look like you could bring in your own branch of webkit here, or even interfere with any of the rendering functions at all. As Long As They're Based On Safari Mobile's Branch of WebKit would be a totally accurate (goofily long) title.
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Ehrich Blackhound
01/14/09

In reply to Apple Approves New Browsers in App Store, As Long As They're Based On Safari
That's like Ford when it was still making the Model T. You could have any color you wanted, as long as it was black. WTF, apple?!
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
01/14/09

@Ehrich Blackhound: What's wrong with black?
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