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    Image of valkilmerisawful valkilmerisawful
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    Maybe these guys can patent the soldier salute gesture and sue the United States, all seven continents and the moon for partaking in waving, saying hello, looking at someone or even witnessing any gesture related to the above... or not related. Seems like a great way to get that moola. Should have gone to school to learn about this kind of "fuckassery" (sweet! got to use that for the first time today).
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    Image of iconoclasttt iconoclasttt
    12/04/09

    @valkilmerisawful: For you and everyone else who seems to be suggesting "let's just patent [some thing that is now commonplace] and run to the bank": please stop.

    You don't have to like the fact that non-practicing entities (i.e., "trolls") sue others based on patents they don't use. You don't have to like the fact that software is (presently) patentable. There are lots of grounds on which to prop a sensible argument against a patent. But the above isn't one of them.

    Just because something is commonplace today doesn't mean it wasn't novel at some time. And under the current law, if something covered by a valid patent--i.e., an application somebody had the foresight to file BEFORE the thing became commonplace-- happens to become commonplace during the patent's (limited) term, the patentee is entitled to enforce his/her patent.
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    Image of valkilmerisawful valkilmerisawful
    12/04/09

    @iconoclasttt: You've got the wrong impression, friend. I'm truly indifferent, truly. If I had to chose a side, I'd support the patent owners for having the intuition and wherewithals to protect their intellectual ingenuity. Shame on a larger company for not investing the time to research, review, clarify and compensate for legitimate patents, because I'm sure that somewhere, there is a room full of legal associates working on this.

    However, they're gamble may come from the accounting department to justify keeping $25M in the bank for 3 years, and pay the penalties later, if it is prohibitive and cost-beneficial to do so. Why pay now when you can pay later?

    I do not not feel bad about it, nor I do feel good about it. But I wouldn't mind understanding the determinations that were made to either avoid, dismiss or take a position of naivety.
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    Image of me_eit001 me_eit001
    12/04/09

    @iconoclasttt: the problem with these companies is they patent bullshit and when someone else figures out how to do it they claim IP. It'd be like me claiming a patent for a device that modulates neutrino flow in a flux capacitor, I have no idea what I said and I just made it up, but if you actually make and sell one tomorrow then you'd be screwed. The downfall of the US patent system is not requiring a functional prototype. Yep I said functional, as cheap as it is today if you can't do that, then you are full of shit.
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    valkilmerisawful promoted this comment me_eit001 was starred me_eit001 was unstarred
    Image of valkilmerisawful valkilmerisawful
    01:44 AM

    @me_eit001: You should patent that idea so that when the patent office adopts this procedure, you will be compensated. How will you prototype this? Some ideas can be patented, some cannot. There was a pretty sweet article about an portable audio device patent a while back that I'll link to here: [gizmodo.com]

    But what about the system you are describing? One of the primary reasons for patenting a product, service or process is to secure time and funding to create prototypes, is it not?
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    Image of Hearthatvoiceagain Hearthatvoiceagain
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    Other than Butt Farts, what other types of Fart are available and, more importantly, have they been patented?
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    Image of Michai Michai
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    Its a tough line of ambiguity. Patent attorneys have a tough time because sometimes people will want to "Patent" actual innovative ideas, where many of the components are still concepts. Meanwhile others yet, usually these loophole Companies that patent hundreds of vaguely worded technologies that - given their relative trends - will eventually come to fruition anyway. How do you enforce one patent over another on the basis of the "designers" moral integrity? These greedy patent hogs, not unlike domain squatters, are a bunch of Nutbastards! No offence to our local Nutbastard
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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    yeah this is somewhere along the lines of patenting, say, the fork.

    "An elongated utensil featuring 2 or more tines, affixed by a handle, for the purpose of mechanically manipulating edible goods, and transporting edible goods to the mouth, by use of the hand and arm, and/or in conjunction with a knife, for the purpose of eating blah blah blah blah"
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    Image of otko otko
    12/04/09

    @nutbastard: But where would the spork fall in that category...
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    nutbastard promoted this comment otko was starred otko was unstarred
    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    12/04/09

    @otko:

    if you ask St Claire, it falls in the catagory of patent infringement.
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    12/04/09

    @nutbastard: And they'll win every time
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    I'm still waiting to hear back on my patent application for "a plastic housing containing electronic components"
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    Image of Digo Digo
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    PRICE STERN SLOAN has sued GIZMODO over MADLIB USE in the POST ABOUT APPLE BEING SUED. They have a history of MADLIB BOOKS, and BUTT FARTS.
    (apparently there seems to be a correlation between butt farts and patent lawsuits)
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    I read the first two sentences and choked on my coffee. Thanks, John.
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    Image of BeyondtheTech BeyondtheTech
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    When or what is Januray?
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    Image of Zerod Zunaro Zerod Zunaro
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    I am issuing a pattent that includes the following: Content viewable and downloadable via a screen or computer that can include pictures, text, videos and any other possible media. The preceding is to be accessible through data transfers.

    Yep, I patented the internet and suing all of you, even animals.
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    Image of ottermann killed Kenny ottermann killed Kenny
    12/04/09

    @Zerod Zunaro:

    Too late. I patented it already.
    I also patented the idea of patenting it, so you violated my patent.
    My attorney will be in touch....
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    Image of Zerod Zunaro Zerod Zunaro
    12/04/09

    @ottermann killed Kenny: I patented the fact that an attorney can be in touch. WHAT NOW?
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    Image of Rabid Penguin Rabid Penguin
    12/04/09

    @Zerod Zunaro: I patented fact... and fiction... and opinions. I still have a good five years on that patent.

    Your move.
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    Image of Zerod Zunaro Zerod Zunaro
    12/04/09

    @Rabid Penguin: I patented keyboard uses, therefore by writing this you infringe my pantent and it invalidates your claims. (Good one though)
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    Image of Rabid Penguin Rabid Penguin
    12/04/09

    @Zerod Zunaro: Is that a fact?
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    Image of ottermann killed Kenny ottermann killed Kenny
    12/04/09

    @Zerod Zunaro:
    I patented every atom and particle in the entire multi-verse.
    I patented the firing of neurons in a brain that causes thought.
    In fact....I patented (fill in blank) to infinity!

    I'm taking my ball and going home.....
    You guys are no fun anymore....
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/04/09

    In reply to Apple Sued For iPhone Patent Infringement, Again
    Patent Trolls United (PTU) is happy to see so many satisfied clients out in the real world.
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    Image of Alluvian Alluvian
    11/19/09

    In reply to Most Versions of Windows Banned From Sale in China Because of Two Fonts
    Hilarious. Their government does not care at ALL about the intellectual property of any country outside their border and now they are bitching about two fonts that are only questionable?

    Anyone who has been to china knows it is downright HARD to find legit movies and games, even the authorities shop in all the stores that sell nothing BUT bootleg properties.

    Hilarious.
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    Image of Fanwashere Fanwashere
    11/19/09

    In reply to Most Versions of Windows Banned From Sale in China Because of Two Fonts
    Haha this is extremely ironic, seeing as China is usually the one breaking copyright laws, they shouldn't be talking.

    On my vacation to China last year, I went to check out some software just for the fun of it. I ended up buying Windows Vista Ultimate, just for the heck of it, for...$0.50 Canadian. Oh course when I got back and tried the install it, the CD Key doesn't work. Figures.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    11/19/09

    In reply to Most Versions of Windows Banned From Sale in China Because of Two Fonts
    Give 'em a couple of weeks. They'll whip up a knock-ff version of Windows (if they haven't done so already)...
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    Image of GenghisKhan GenghisKhan
    11/19/09

    In reply to Most Versions of Windows Banned From Sale in China Because of Two Fonts
    你们的愚蠢都让我笑死了哈哈!我国偷微软的字体,偷你的IP hohoho你要干什么呢?你敢告状吗?咱们无所谓嘿嘿,真傻的外国人。。。
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    SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!! promoted this comment GenghisKhan was starred GenghisKhan was unstarred
    Image of SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!! SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!
    11/19/09

    @GenghisKhan: Yeah...Agreed...whatever you said.
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    Image of Project_J187 Project_J187
    11/19/09

    @SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!: The google translation:

    Your stupid on me laughable the 哈哈! China to steal Microsoft's fonts, stealing your IP hohoho you want to do? Do you dare to complain? Let's does not matter hey, silly foreign
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    Image of GenghisKhan GenghisKhan
    11/20/09

    @GenghisKhan: fyi I'm not Chinese. I'd feel very proud of myself if a native Chinese speaker mistook me for being one based on this comment though! (And yes, I was being a little tongue-in-cheek, if that wasn't clear.)

    #speakup
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    Image of blash blash
    11/19/09

    In reply to Most Versions of Windows Banned From Sale in China Because of Two Fonts
    Wait, MS still sells Win 98 SE in China?
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