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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
11/19/09

In reply to Most Versions of Windows Banned From Sale in China Because of Two Fonts
Give 'em a couple of weeks. They'll whip up a knock-ff version of Windows (if they haven't done so already)...
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blash
11/19/09

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Wait, MS still sells Win 98 SE in China?
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Red_Flag
11/19/09

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具有中国特色的知识产权

Intellectual property rights with Chinese characteristics...
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Jacubious
11/19/09

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I was going to (try to) bust out something witty in Mandarin, but this computer doesn't recognize pinyin and I don't have permissions to make it work. That makes me a saad panda.
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Red_Flag
11/19/09

@Jacubious: Can you use Google pinyin, or are you locked out of application installation?

[www.google.com]
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Jacubious
11/19/09

@Red_Flag: It was a work computer, so definitely locked out of installations. I didn't even know about Google pinyin though (new Mandarin speaker/reader/writer), so thanks for the info!
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Red_Flag
11/19/09

@Jacubious: Some other sites/tools that may be helpful for you:

CEDICT Online Dictionary: [us1.mdbg.net]

Pablo Chinese Dictionary/Hanzi scratchpad: [ehaton.blogspot.com]

ZDT Dictionary/Flashcards: [zdt.sourceforge.net]

These should all allow you to search by English translation, pinyin or radical, and Pablo allows you to draw hanzi with your mouse.
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nerdtalker
11/19/09

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Are these also those horrible fonts that *look* like they're from 1995?

Almost all my coworkers are Chinese and their emails are always horrible looking simply because they use this ancient font that *also* has the appropriate characters.
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Nathan Obbards
11/19/09

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How ironic that China, for once, actually cares about copyrights. Considering the sheer volume of pirated copies of Windows in China, China should be grateful that MS has decided to update pirated copies and to still do anything related to China.
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drewkkake
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: I'm sure pirating of Windows is totally rampant in China, but let's be honest... SOMEBODY there is buying legal licenses. And with a population somewhere around 1.3-1.4 billion, what is Microsoft going to do? Abandon operations there? The numbers game alone dictates that MS put up with any Chinese legal shenanigans that may arise.
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Nathan Obbards
11/19/09

@drewkkake: Apparently, in 2007, there were only 244 legitimate copies of Vista in China.

[www.newlaunches.com]

If I were MS, I would be an asshole and cause every illegal copy to self-destruct. MS by no means is required to acquiesce.
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Fractal the Meek
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: That wouldn't fly. The folks at MS hold education too close to their hearts and they know how many college term papers would get nuked.
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Poop Cooper
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: Only 244 legal copies? I'm surprised it's worth it to Microsoft to even appeal the ban at all.
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emorottie
11/19/09

@Poop Cooper: Maybe that's why they don't want to pay for the fonts if it's true that the fonts are not covered by whatever agreement ... if only 200 people will buy it anyways, what difference would it make? ;)
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Red_Flag
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: To be fair... that is *Vista* we're talking about, y'know.
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Poop Cooper
11/19/09

@emorottie: Good point, though I wonder how much less a court appeal costs than a font license, and how much more either costs than selling 250 copies of Windows.

I'd bet both are more expensive. I say just cash out.
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Nathan Obbards
11/19/09

@Red_Flag: Vista really isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. This coming from someone running Vista and Snow Leopard on a hackintosh.

@JTX: They do have these things called product registration keys...

I don't disagree with your sentiment, I just think China is full of shit.
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diehippiedie
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: You are absolutely correct Nathan. With 1/6 of the earth population, daily fecal production in the greater china area is in the millions, metric ton; YTD growth is about 8%, on par with its economical growth.

So I think its safe to say that China is, indeed, full of shit; and they've been full of shit for 5000 years now, literally the oldest and biggest fecal production industry on the planet earth. Anyone looking into putting up some low risk high return investment in this ancient industry, china would be your safest bet.
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Kirkaiya
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: Microsoft isn't going to cut off their nose to spite their face: they (msft) are willing to endure a fair amount of illegal copies of Windows in China, because of three main reasons;
1 - Many (if not most) of those copies are not really "lost sales" (many users would simply use something else if they couldn't use Windows for free). Brings us to...
2 - Microsoft *really* doesn't want to encourage the use of alternative, free operating systems (read: desktop Linux), which - if allowed to blossom in China's huge market - might preclude future Windows and MS Office sales there.
3 - With nearly everyone in China running Windows, most commercial desktop software (created by ISVs and developers, who generally pay for their tools - Visual Studio, SQL Server, etc) is targeted at Windows. This helps cement the "lock in".

Microsoft has been playing the "long game" in China and other lesser-developed markets for a decade, and as China's legal systems mature, and their middle-class increasingly can afford legit copies without blinking, this long-term strategy pays off. So - not much actual loss, fear of Linux, and sales of other software for the Win32/64 ecosystem ensure that it's never going to be toooooo hard to get illegal copies.
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UWAZell
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: Add to that their automotive industry which has not had an original design ever. China only cares about IP rights when it's a Chinese company asserting said rights.
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Zlati Pehlivanov
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: and you're form where?
how did you managed to define this sentence? I wouldn't repeat it. If you do not remember - 70% at least of all stock is coming from China, They are 1,5 billion, and if you want to sell them something it's good idea to make them want your product. If you were speaking Albanian (there is such country Albania on the Balkans), you will buy the windows only if it's on your own language am i right?
Not everyone is speaking English. So MS has to pay the right to use the Albanian font, if they want to translated it and display windows on Albanian. GET IT? BTW Albanian people are a lot less then Chinese.
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tekamul
11/19/09

@Zlati Pehlivanov: ...there are certainly a lot less Albanians (1/500th of China, maybe?), but I bet Albania bought more legal copies of Vista ;)

I've been a part of copyright suits in the tech industry. Nobody likes to play with China, they live by a double standard
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geowrian
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: Piracy and knock-offs are rampant in China. I would also add that your source has been heavily disputed by Microsoft - [www.electronista.com] MS claims sales were generally on par with worldwide sales, and they have the data to back it up, not the speculative sources as mentioned in the articles claiming 244 sales.

That said, businesses are where MS makes most of their money, especially in China. The 244 number is only in the first few weeks of release. It would be incredibly rare if any businesses would upgrade to Vista within that time period.
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Nathan Obbards
11/19/09

@geowrian: Eh, sorry, it was late and a quick googling. That said, piracy is rampant in China and far more illegal copies of Windows exist there than anywhere else in the world. Regardless, it does not detract from the irony of China blocking sales for IP theft.
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Red_Flag
11/19/09

@Kirkaiya: Your explanation sounds highly plausible.
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geowrian
11/19/09

@Nathan Obbards: Agreed...China' IP enforcement is pathetic. However, this isn't about China - this is about a company that wants their IP to be protected. China as a whole may be horrible, but this company should be allowed to enforce it's own IP rights as well.
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Nathan Obbards
11/19/09

@geowrian: I agree that they should be able to enforce IP rights, but they should fine MS, give money to the complainant, and be done. China really is the last country in the world that has a right to complain or enforce IP theft against foreign companies. Also, who's to say that the company isn't just trying to weasel more money out of MS when MS legally purchased rights for it for all their products? Chinese companies are shady, so I can't say who is right or wrong right now. I can, however, say China has no right to block the sale of something from a foreign company for IP theft when so many of their products are blatantly stolen.
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Zlati Pehlivanov
11/20/09

@tekamul: oh c'mon, like the americans are not? do not be so sure about the numvber of legal copies in Albania. There is no anti internet piracy law.
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Demonbird
11/03/09

In reply to Barnes & Noble's Nook May Violate Spring Design's Alex Reader Intellectual Property
Upon reading the title I thought "Oh, I doubt that. Upon seeing the pictures, yeah, I don't know what they thought they were doing. #nookvsalex
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Fractal the Meek
11/02/09

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Yeah, our dear friends at that other blog smelled this one coming when Alex first dropped. Its announcement was flung together, perhaps not unlike its current patent applications, to beat the Nook's reveal. [www.engadget.com] #nookvsalex
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thepcguy85
11/02/09

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although it looks bulky, I really like the spring design e-reader. #nookvsalex
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cardboredbox
11/02/09

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of course B&N would find a way to mess this up #nookvsalex
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tande04
11/02/09

@cardboredbox: That was my initial thought too. As long as there is no injunction before the Nook goes on sale I'm good. #nookvsalex
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Keni:Would people stop doing this now!!!:
11/02/09

In reply to Barnes & Noble's Nook May Violate Spring Design's Alex Reader Intellectual Property
From a outright design perspective, I'd take the nook over alex's ereader #nookvsalex
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OCEntertainment
05/27/09

In reply to Obama's Supreme Court Nominee Knows Stuff About Computers
"[She's] the first nominee to the court with any record in cyberlaw."

.......

Remind me again why Supreme Court Justices get lifetime appointments? In 2009, this seems like it should be a bit of an oddity to hear.
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92BuickLeSabre
05/27/09

@OCEntertainment: It assumes that Justices are doing something different than law-makers and law-enforcers. In theory, they are more like neutral problem-solvers that need judicial independence, deciding what things say or mean as opposed to what they should be.

So they are as insulated as much as possible from:

(a) The temptation to decide the law based on public sentiment and the need to be elected. (A balance against the more "democratic" legislative and executive branches.)

(b) The temptation to decide the law based on potential personal future gain or earnings. (The same reason they have historically had to be careful about their stock portfolios.)

(c) The idea that just as the law is based on precedent, the more experience a Justice has on the bench, the better they will be to moderate the slow movement of case law.

And it doesn't just apply to Supreme Court Justices, it's true for all Federal judges.
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BlueGoblin
05/27/09

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she is a MAC!
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IN THE FACE!
05/27/09

@BlueGoblin: Burn Her?
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coldconfession13
05/27/09

In reply to Obama's Supreme Court Nominee Knows Stuff About Computers
Gizmodo is pro Scocialism
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dumanue
05/27/09

@coldconfession13: whats scocialism? is that some sort of a drug? or candy...

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeey kids.... anyone seen a grown man naked before? want some scocialism?
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Voyou_Charmant
05/27/09

@Bon5ai: You're simply an idiot if you read that as a "ruling against those firemen." The ruling was made by the federal district court and a three judge panel affirmed the ruling. It's REALLY not that big a deal.
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Elvisisdead
05/27/09

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How about the fact that she's had the most overturned decisions of any Federal judge. Seems like that would be important.
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92BuickLeSabre
05/27/09

@Elvisisdead: How about the fact that:

a) That's not a fact, because it's not true.

b) Of the 380 opinions, she wrote, the SCOTUS only actually accepted cert on five of them (letting the rest stand), and of those, overturned only three.

c) She became an appellate judge in 1998, meaning her tenure coincided with one of the most conservative SCOTUS periods of the last 75 years, so it wouldn't be all that shocking in any case that a judge that is more similar in her legal approach to the current 4-Justice minority would be overturned.

d) She comes from the 2nd Circuit, which aside from the 9th Circuit, has generally been overturned more than the other Circuits due to (c).

Seriously, she's not a perfect candidate, but support your arguments with facts if you want to actually establish that it is "important."
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weatherman
05/27/09

@92BuickLeSabre: damn, you're dropping some serious juridical science!
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Kaiser-Machead
05/27/09

@92BuickLeSabre: That's it. I think if I ever get a car, it will be a 92 Le Sabre.
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TheBeege1
05/27/09

@92BuickLeSabre: [www.washingtontimes.com]
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92BuickLeSabre
05/27/09

@TheBeege1: Exactly. Not where I had read point (b), but it's rarely very hard to actually figure out the facts.
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robinandtami
05/27/09

@Elvisisdead: Newsflash.... Rush Limbaugh doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Everything he says is intended to anger his entire audience, in one way or another, and increase his ratings. A six year old with Google effectively refute almost anything he presents as "fact."
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IN THE FACE!
05/27/09

@Elvisisdead: In. the. face.
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