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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
10/17/09

In reply to Mozilla Whines About Apple Being First in Microsoft's Web Browser Ballot Screen
Jenny, I got your number... #browserballot
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Duckspwn:Loves Approving Reds
10/16/09

In reply to Shady Microsoft Plugin Pokes "Critical" Hole In Firefox Security
I just closed a notification from firefox saying that the .NET framework was a problem and that it had been disabled. I thought firefox was just full of crap, but hey oh, turns out it's actually microsoft. #security
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Bokusatsu_Tenshi
10/16/09

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Seriously now? What's next? Crawling back to momma's womb? #browserballot
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Heliophage
10/16/09

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Just have the browsers presented in a circle. Better yet, a circle that rotates, so any future complaints about Firefox not getting a dominant position on the circle can be hushed before they're spoken. #browserballot
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10/16/09

@Heliophage:
Yes, but wich browser starts at the top? #browserballot
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Heliophage
10/16/09

@.- -. --- -. -.-- -- --- ..- ... / .. ... / .-.. . --. .. --- -.: They all start in the middle, hidden behind a masking image so no one can determine which was on top, and then spiral outward. #browserballot
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10/17/09

@Heliophage:
But then someone will start whining about wich of 'em will reach the top first...

Sigh... #browserballot
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appletoad
10/16/09

In reply to Mozilla Whines About Apple Being First in Microsoft's Web Browser Ballot Screen
What a whiny bitch. If people want firefox for its features and ease of use, they will click on it. If they want IE because they don't know any better, they will click on it. If they want adherence to web standards, or are lazy, they will click on safari. If they want a browser that guests won't use cause they have never heard of it and don't know its a browser, they will pick opera. Plain and simple. #browserballot
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Gun Metal Gray
10/16/09

@appletoad: Just curious what would be the reason for choosing Chrome? #browserballot
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Experiment626
10/16/09

@Gun Metal Gray: You're an exhibitionist who wants google to know everything about your web surfing habits. #browserballot
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UnderLoK
10/16/09

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Since Opera started all of this I would guess the only reason we haven't heard anything from them yet is because they are still drafting up a response.

This is absolutely ridiculous. It's bad enough that MS is being forced to do it in the first place, but now they even have to put themselves further down the list?

If Opera and onecorewonderZilla keep this up maybe the EU will can the idea all together.

Personally I think MS should have just stuck with the "no browser" option and send IE cd's to stores like they were going to do. Make Mozilla, Apple, and Opera do the same. Case close. #browserballot
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Raziel
10/17/09

@UnderLoK: But who's CD gets stacked on top when being handed to customers? #browserballot
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UnderLoK
10/18/09

@Raziel: They sit on the shelves with the Win7 boxes allowing the customer to grab whatever they want.

The big boxes would make the layout decision. #browserballot
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Raziel
10/18/09

@UnderLoK: lol. Thanks for the info, but I was joking. 8) #browserballot
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UnderLoK
10/18/09

@Raziel: Oh I took it as they would next bitch about store layout so I think I took it the right way, but I was just saying :P #browserballot
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Raziel
10/19/09

@UnderLoK: Haha. I love Firefox, but seriously, this chick is bananas. #browserballot
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10/16/09

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I love FF (keywords + xmarks FTW), but seriously Boriss wouldn't be bitching if Firefox were first in the list.
Just seems a tad hypocritical. #browserballot
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UnderLoK
10/16/09

@2 replies by: If it used more than one core I would agree. #browserballot
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fleebailey33
10/16/09

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great, so microsoft ruined ff on purpose? what levels will they not go to #security
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OCEntertainment
10/16/09

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I can't tell if the fox in that pic is getting a shot of allergy meds or heroin.

I'm going to assume allergy meds, as I'm not familiar with an gluteal injection methods of heroin. #security
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anexanhume
10/16/09

@OCEntertainment: It feels great to take it in the ass. Wait... #security
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Parapraxis
10/16/09

@anexanhume: for shame. If there's anything my mother taught me, 'tis better to give than to receive.

Wait... mom? #security
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Skunky
10/16/09

@anexanhume: For the love of God, do NOT google the phrase "fox takes it in the ass." #security
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The Lab
10/16/09

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and that's why it sucks to work as a company shill. She probably knew her points were BS as she was making them. #browserballot
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Kaiser-Machead
10/16/09

@The Lab: If someone paid me enough, I'd say that "X" Corp.'s products are better than Jesus and Unicorns combined, and anyone who says otherwise is a slanderizin' sonofabitch. #browserballot
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medrick
10/16/09

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Wow, this has got to be one of the most poorly written articles I've ever seen on gizmodo.

Saying they "slipped" it in is a misnomer, it was an optional download. Automatic updates only automatically install bugfixes etc.

Also, your "link" to uninstall the .net framework is actually a patch to the addon.

I know you guy are often biased against microsoft, but just wow. #security
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lostarchitect
10/16/09

@medrick: Actually, the .net framework was not optional for me. I never authorized it, yet there it is, installed without any obvious way to uninstall it. #security
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medrick
10/16/09

@lostarchitect: The .Net framework isn't the issue. It's the firefox addon. That was optional.

The framework it's self is nothing more than a platform similar to java. #security
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thegreatpablo
10/16/09

@medrick: Windows Vista's Windows Update settings by default run the updates and include recommended updates as well as critical. So it's likely it was slipped in on a lot of peoples' updates without their knowledge. #security
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HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
10/16/09

@medrick: Nope, not an "optional" download at all. It installs automatically as part of .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. I've had to remove it after-the-fact from 2 computers now. #security
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medrick
10/16/09

@thegreatpablo: So you left your computer automatically downloading and installing things on it's own. Yes.. that's their fault that they are following your settings. #security
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nutbastard
10/16/09

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i think it's absurd that anyone would select a browser based on an arbitrary ordering. does she think we're retarded?

people who would choose IE probably don't give a shit about their browser. people who choose safari will do so because it's an apple program. but the others? those are the domain of those of us who DO give a damn about our browsers, who actually are familiar with them, and have rational reasons for choosing one over the others.

fans of firefox didn't get to be fans of firefox by randomly downloading it one day because it was the first in some irrelevant list. we heard good things about it and made a concerted effort to check it out.

lastly, where's the victory in duping people into using firefox by way of psychological trickery? isn't this about choice after all? and isn't choice only choice when it's informed, comprehended and consensual? #browserballot
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anexanhume
10/16/09

@nutbastard: I like Chrome because it has pretty colors! #browserballot
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Professional_Iceberg_Hunter
10/16/09

@nutbastard: Ha.. You obviously don't know my friend then. When playing Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 she always chooses her characters based on "cuteness and sparklyness" as she likes to call it.

Some people who might not be so familiar with all of these browsers would pick the one that is first, since it would seem like they put it first since it is the best choice, not because of alphabetical order. I mean, come on. #browserballot
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Xagest
10/16/09

@nutbastard:
It's not completely unheard of to select an item arbitrarily. If you're talking about knowledgeable computer techs, that's one thing. If you're talking about the more average consumer, it's another.

If someone were asked to select one of 5 HTTP Web Server programs, and they weren't familiar with any of them, then the first one in the list would most likely be the best bet. #browserballot
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nutbastard
10/16/09

@Professional_Iceberg_Hunter:

then i'm going to have to assume that's why people vote democrat. #browserballot
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Ryanraven
10/16/09

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Is this list in order of developer? sorted alphabetically? I think that's fare enough. I mean IE doesn't have flashing lights on it or anything #browserballot
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jetRink
10/16/09

In reply to Mozilla Whines About Apple Being First in Microsoft's Web Browser Ballot Screen
Microsoft should just take a representative from each browser out for Happy Meals. Whoever yells shotgun first on the way back to the van gets first position. #browserballot
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Kaiser-Machead
10/16/09

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Because it's been proven by Internet science that people who like a certain thing will be more prone to select something else if it's first on the list. #browserballot
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