The original version looks a lot better for gaming on the go, as it doesn't significantly decrease the pocketability of the phone. This looks like something you'd need to pull out of a bag or briefcase whenever you want to play games. And I can't see it running for less than $100, at which point I'd have to agree with all the people who said you might as well just buy a DS. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
It just proves the point that the iPhone didn't need to be small and slick with a wonderous touch screen display - it needed to be ridiculously huge, more battery life, plenty of buttons, made with cheap plastic from a Datsun dashboard, and have a design based on the original PlayStation controller. Finally, the perfect iPhone has arrived.
@OMG! Ponies!: I recall reading that the iPhone 3gs is more powerful than the PSP. All it would take is a supported accessory like this (without the jailbrake requirement anyhow) for gaming on the iPhone/iPod Touch to be no different than on a handheld. Well, beside being more powerful. It would be like putting what's good about the DS (touch screen and developer support) together with what's good about the PSP (more online features and better hardware). #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
@cabjf: A non-Jailbreak version is about as likely as an outbreak of avian-swine flu as the only way that Apple can sell IP like the above-pictured Super Mario Kart is by licensing it from Nintendo.
Emulators are unlicensed versions of the programs and Apple does have a somewhat understandable reason to try to break Jailbreak capability - to avoid getting sued by the likes of Nintendo and Sony, as well as every other major software developer.
Finally, remember the old saw - a Jack of all trades is a master of none. As a smartphone, the iPhone is pretty darned good (not as good as a Blackberry for business use though). As a PMP, it's also pretty darned good. As a gaming platform, it's mediocre at best. I'd rather play games on a device built to play games. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
@OMG! Ponies!: Couldn't Nintendo offer the game? Apple doesn't offer any of the apps, companies pay them to deploy their apps on the iphone. So theoretically, Nintendo could offer an iphone app that works with this extension (although they would probably make one themselves) and it would be fine. You're right in the fact that it would probably never happen though.
Besides, this device doesn't have to be limited to emulators. Game devs could support it for their own games.
Steve Jobs has said that he wants the iPod Touch to become a gaming platform, it just needs to grow more and get better games than all of the free/$0.99 ones it has now.
@OMG! Ponies!: There are plenty of people who prefer a saw (read: PC) for gaming compared to the a console.
You are right in that companies would have to bring their IP to the iPhone for it to be a successful gaming device and you would likely never see the someone like Nintendo, with their own successful portable device, on the iPhone. I thought anyone could put out an accessory for the iPhone though so long as it was either approved by Apple or contained whatever authentication chip is required? What I'm picturing is someone coming along and releasing an accessory like this for non-jailbroken iPhones and then iPhone game developers making use of it (maybe even requiring it to work with their games since multi-touch only really works with certain types of games). #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
@noodleashy143: Nintendo and Apple are very similar in one respect; Control. Nintendo would never release anything on the iPhone because, just like Apple, they value having complete control on their hardware and software. Releasing their software elsewhere means they are surrendering some of that grip they have on their products. It would cut down on their profit margins. It's much more likely to see even Microsoft team up with Apple for gaming than it would be Nintendo.
Fortunately, Nintendo no longer makes money off of older systems because everything you buy for them is pretty much used now so emulators probably won't be done away with any time soon. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
@The Analrapist: Half Analyst Half Therapist: I assume, based on the BSG reference, that you turn off the WiFi on your Zune since you wouldn't want the toasters to invade your OS on your networked device, right?
Going off on an inappropriate tangent, but how is it that the systems on Galactica talked to each other if they had no networking? When they send the command to jump is it going through an old RS232 cable? And, really, isn't that just a form of networking anyway? Clearly the show was beyond me.
This cult is going too far. I want you to know, when I find you all lying in beds with purple sheets over your torso's, a five dollar bill and three quarters in each of your pockets, and brand new black-and-white Nike Windrunners on your feet, I will remember this moment.
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@Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: I love that guy. He's totally right about the lava-hot inside, and you gotta love the mysteriously frozen-solid chunks floating in the magma.
You know this would be perfect not for credit cards/ID but rather for NFC cards (e.g. Oyster card). No need to ever remove them, just wave your phone when you want to get past the barriers.
@Odin: Yeah, just what I was thinking - the kind of card that you just wave in front of a device and it grants access, I have one to get into our offices that I never remove from my wallet, so I know that it'd work in the sleeve...but I'd worry about random interference issues (yes, I'm a bad geek, I don't actually know how the card that I use everyday works...). I do know that you can't carry two of those cards together (or at least when I had two, I couldn't - the signals would cancel each other out, had to pull them out of my wallet & away from each other to make them work).
@Lupus_Yonderboy: Most likely it has an RFID chip. A reader sends out a signal that is used to power the chip. Once powered the chip sends back a burst of information.
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Emulators are unlicensed versions of the programs and Apple does have a somewhat understandable reason to try to break Jailbreak capability - to avoid getting sued by the likes of Nintendo and Sony, as well as every other major software developer.
Finally, remember the old saw - a Jack of all trades is a master of none. As a smartphone, the iPhone is pretty darned good (not as good as a Blackberry for business use though). As a PMP, it's also pretty darned good. As a gaming platform, it's mediocre at best. I'd rather play games on a device built to play games. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
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Besides, this device doesn't have to be limited to emulators. Game devs could support it for their own games.
Steve Jobs has said that he wants the iPod Touch to become a gaming platform, it just needs to grow more and get better games than all of the free/$0.99 ones it has now.
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You are right in that companies would have to bring their IP to the iPhone for it to be a successful gaming device and you would likely never see the someone like Nintendo, with their own successful portable device, on the iPhone. I thought anyone could put out an accessory for the iPhone though so long as it was either approved by Apple or contained whatever authentication chip is required? What I'm picturing is someone coming along and releasing an accessory like this for non-jailbroken iPhones and then iPhone game developers making use of it (maybe even requiring it to work with their games since multi-touch only really works with certain types of games). #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
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Fortunately, Nintendo no longer makes money off of older systems because everything you buy for them is pretty much used now so emulators probably won't be done away with any time soon. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
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Going off on an inappropriate tangent, but how is it that the systems on Galactica talked to each other if they had no networking? When they send the command to jump is it going through an old RS232 cable? And, really, isn't that just a form of networking anyway? Clearly the show was beyond me.
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Maybe it's the first step?
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I was going to suggest hiding his mom in it.
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