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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    12/16/09

    In reply to Wal-mart Selling $145 iPod Nano with $50 iTunes Gift Card
    If you get your music by other means, you can always sell the iTunes gift card on eBay.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/15/09

    In reply to The North Face iPod Jackets Have Controls on the Sleeve
    I recently purchased an Underarmour haw jacket for $300, and that thing is damn warm, but surprisingly light. It has a pass through for pmp's (doesn't specify iPod), and is pretty comfy. If you're not fond of longer coats then stay away, but it sure is nice to have when it's windy and biting cold. The price of this thing is not that bad really. NorthFace stuff usually lasts a long time, so you get your money's worth out of it.

    [www.underarmour.com]
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    Edited by Kaiser-Machead at 12/15/09 4:00 PM Kaiser-Machead was starred Kaiser-Machead was unstarred
    Image of Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow
    12/15/09

    In reply to The North Face iPod Jackets Have Controls on the Sleeve
    Personally, I like almost anything The North Face - regardless of price.

    TNF products are products you won't have to buy again for a long time after purchase.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/15/09

    In reply to The North Face iPod Jackets Have Controls on the Sleeve
    I already have a spendy coat. I don't need another.
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    Image of Gordonium Gordonium
    12/15/09

    In reply to The North Face iPod Jackets Have Controls on the Sleeve
    Not quite the same thing, but I've got one of these, and it's pretty spiffy. Was "only" like $60 (on massive sale).

    [www.rei.com]
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    Image of Horusz Horusz
    12/15/09

    @Gordonium: Too bad it looks pretty horrible.
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    Gordonium promoted this comment Horusz was starred Horusz was unstarred
    Image of Gordonium Gordonium
    12/15/09

    @Horusz: Not much in way of fashion (not much I own is), but it's damn warm, breathes well, and keeps an iPod steady during exercise. Only drawback is that getting the damn thing out and doing anything with it is a pain in the ass.
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    Image of eagles3 speeeedin eagles3 speeeedin
    12/15/09

    In reply to The North Face iPod Jackets Have Controls on the Sleeve
    I'm actually in the market for a new Winter Jacket, heading North for a skiing trip, and then spending a week in NYC, after Christmas. NorthFace seems like the obvious choice here. Any one have a better/cheaper brand in mind.

    The last time I got a new cold weather Jacket was when I was twelve, before I moved south.
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    Image of twoeightnine twoeightnine
    12/15/09

    @eagles3 speeeedin: Highly recommend Arc'teryx. Steep and Cheap has been running a ton of jackets recently and if I didn't already have an Alpha I'd pick one up. You can also find great deals on Ebay. I saved $300 on mine. I have the LT version which is excellent. When it's really cold I just layer a vest under it and am perfectly warm.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/15/09

    In reply to The North Face iPod Jackets Have Controls on the Sleeve
    Yeah I've never really understood the pricing scheme of outdoor wear in general.

    Seems the more esoteric the more expensive too. I've always liked Arc'Teryx too but you pay that much for a simple soft shell from them and I've never thought they had the "brand awareness" to get away with that.
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    Edited by tande04 at 12/15/09 3:09 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of twoeightnine twoeightnine
    12/15/09

    @tande04: Why are you worried about brand awareness in your outdoor gear?
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/15/09

    @twoeightnine: I'm not.

    All I was getting at that as far as build quality, material, etc they seem about on the same level as any other outerwear company yet Arc'Teryx costs about 2x-3x as much. I understand some of that when there is a "brand awareness" there like with nike, apple, or even north face but not with something where there isn't any of that.

    It seems the opposite of what I'm used to.

    Usually you tend to move up in price when it gets increasingly well know. It always seemed like outerwear in general was the opposite. North face which is more well known seems cheaper than a Arc'Teryx or a Mountain Hardware which aren't as well know. Just odd.
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    Edited by tande04 at 12/15/09 4:48 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of twoeightnine twoeightnine
    12/15/09

    @tande04: Ah, ok. It's simple. High end brands aren't sold at Macy's or Dick's or the like. Your average shopper isn't going to go to a specialty store to pick up a winter jacket for walking around. North Face is sold everywhere and gained that brand recognition through the Denali which everyone in college had. Arc'Teryx and Mountain Hardware are geared towards people that actually use it in the elements and you get what you pay for.

    And speaking from experience the build quality of Arc'Teryx blows North Face away. My jacket is bomb proof and my Bora backpack is the best I've ever owned hands down.
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    Image of Ian Wish Ian Wish
    12/15/09

    In reply to The North Face iPod Jackets Have Controls on the Sleeve
    Northface = overpriced
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    archercc promoted this comment Ian Wish was starred Ian Wish was unstarred
    Image of archercc archercc
    12/15/09

    @Ian Wish: And them some. Its amazing how well it sells when you can get the same thing (or better in the case of the Gore-Tex products) from another maker like Marmot or Mountain Hardwear and its cheaper.
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    Image of The n00b The n00b
    12/15/09

    @archercc: North face products where mostly outsourced to china after the millenium, and production ramped up. Though prices didnt drop.
    And the metrosexuals made sure to keep paying for the popular brand.

    Personally i shop based on material not brand, this year is was mylar ( aluminized ) inner shell.
    by coldwave
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/15/09

    @archercc: I thought Mountain Hardwear was way more expensive.
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    Edited by tande04 at 12/15/09 4:19 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of ZaphodBeeblebroxIV ZaphodBeeblebroxIV
    12/15/09

    @tande04: not necessarily, their very high end products are comparative in pricing to tnf, but most of their stuff is actually a bit less expensive. i hesitate to say cheaper because i've always found that my hardwear gear always lasts longer than my tnf gear...
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/15/09

    @ZaphodBeeblebroxIV: Huh. Seems like when I was jacket shopping last I kept looking at their softshells because I liked the design but when I looked at the price tag I liked it a lot less.
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    Image of archercc archercc
    12/15/09

    @tande04: Compare oranges to oranges. Typically if you hit up their nicer shells they are going to be higher because they are a step up in quality. They do have some expensive stuff, not quite as bad as Arcteryx (although I love all of my gear from those Canadian bastages).

    But if you compare just a fleece for the price of the Denali fleece to the Windstopper tech jacket you can get a jacket with GoreTex Windstopper and a better build than the Denali for only $15 more. Look at a standard fleece and MHW is cheaper.

    Man, I miss working in a camping store and getting 30% off wholesale on Osprey, Western Mountaineering, MHW and MSR.

    :( This thread has made me sad.
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    Edited by archercc at 12/15/09 7:03 PM archercc was starred archercc was unstarred
    Image of archercc archercc
    12/15/09

    @The n00b: I dont really hate on china though. Even Pata or MHWs best coats were made in China (even the new bonded seam stuff).

    Only really Arcteryx has held out and that is probably as much that they dont do the volume that the big boys do.

    There is nothing wrong with having stuff made in China as long as its made with good tools and to a specific specification (MacBooks are made in the same factories as Dells).
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    Image of volim volim
    12/11/09

    In reply to H20 Audio's Waterproof iPod Nano Case Is Built for Surfer-Videographers
    An obvious question, why is it wired? If so, it'd be hard to keep the earbuds inside ears in water.
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    crackel promoted this comment volim was starred volim was unstarred
    Image of crackel crackel
    12/11/09

    @volim: he may not be surfing to catch waves, but to paddle surf. [http:] - which may or may not involve catching waves. Judging by the relative calm of the water he's either between swells or in a relaxing mood.
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    Edited by crackel at 12/11/09 11:32 PM crackel was starred crackel was unstarred
    Image of Robusto68 Robusto68
    12/11/09

    In reply to Mega-iPhone Dorks Who Idolise Rambo, Strap This On For Size
    3 nights ago I watched a busty woman in low-cut tank top pull an iphone from her cleavage. Every other iphone peripheral now pales in comparison.

    Yes, I smelled the iphone. It smelled like cleavage sweat.
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    12/11/09

    In reply to Apple Patent Shows Dock Made From 'Elastic Sponge-Like Substance' That Conforms To Shape of iPod/iPhone
    It's a fleshlight.
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    Image of dfp3050 dfp3050
    12/11/09

    In reply to Mega-iPhone Dorks Who Idolise Rambo, Strap This On For Size
    Is there an app for making the rambo sling not suck?
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    12/11/09

    In reply to Mega-iPhone Dorks Who Idolise Rambo, Strap This On For Size
    I've been looking for something to keep my Snuggie from falling down off my shoulders when I stand up. This will do nicely, thanks..
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    Edited by Jrsy Devil's Advocate® at 12/11/09 6:25 PM Jrsy Devil's Advocate® was starred Jrsy Devil's Advocate® was unstarred
    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    12/11/09

    In reply to Mega-iPhone Dorks Who Idolise Rambo, Strap This On For Size
    I guess this would only be SLIGHTLY better than carrying a man purse, right?
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    Image of lankysob lankysob
    12/11/09

    In reply to Mega-iPhone Dorks Who Idolise Rambo, Strap This On For Size
    After watching the product video, I learned 2 things:

    1) That thing is going to jump all over the place under your arm while you're running. -Not good.

    2) Their slogan is: "Show Us Your Beat". -Awesome.

    I'll take 3.
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