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    Image of Ninety-9 Ninety-9
    10:41 AM

    In reply to How Lala and the Web Will Make iTunes Even More Powerful
    Selling music at a nearly 100% profit while at the same time insuring that your customers are locked to using your software and your hardware is risky business.
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    11:08 AM

    @Ninety-9: Uhh,, iTunes music is DRM-free.
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    Image of SwatLax SwatLax
    10:23 AM

    In reply to How Lala and the Web Will Make iTunes Even More Powerful
    What I'm most interested to see is whether Apple copies the Lala model of offering songs for a cheaper price (~$.10) that are online only (requiring additional ~$.89 to download).

    Since my wife got a Droid, it has been eye opening to see that there is almost no where that she doesn't have a high speed internet connection. Why download the podcast, when streaming it is just as fast, clean and interruption free?

    Would Apple risk their revenue model by offering MP3s for a price that would undercut competitors, like Lala did, but with the backing of the Apple and iPhone brand?
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    Edited by SwatLax at 12/10/09 10:25 AM SwatLax was starred SwatLax was unstarred
    Image of SwatLax SwatLax
    10:31 AM

    @SwatLax: Sorry, posted before reading the article. Looks like the online-only model is being looked at:

    For several months, Lala has been field testing a version of its service that works on the iPhone or iPod touch. The company has told people in the music industry that test users spent at least as much money every month, on average, buying the service's 10-cent Web songs as iTunes users do paying for full-priced downloads.

    Interesting issue that arrises out of this, and would be similar to the infamous Kindle-1984 episode:

    Certain legal issues remain hazy: If music becomes a virtual product, it isn't clear how Apple might be able to guarantee a buyer would retain access to a song in perpetuity if, for instance, a new owner gained control of a record label's catalog and changed the terms of its deal with the retailer.
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    Image of Mikestan Mikestan
    10:17 AM

    In reply to How Lala and the Web Will Make iTunes Even More Powerful
    What ever happened to iTunes preview? Remember itunes on the web?

    [gizmodo.com]
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    Image of TonyWonder TonyWonder
    10:11 AM

    In reply to How Lala and the Web Will Make iTunes Even More Powerful
    If its anything like the HypeMachine (hypem.com) no plug intended, it will be successful... but considering most of the songs on that blog aggregator are leaked, unreleased, bootlegs and unofficial remixes, I doubt it'll be anything like Hypem.com...
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    10:09 AM

    In reply to How Lala and the Web Will Make iTunes Even More Powerful
    By "more powerful" do you mean "an even slower piece of shit that I am forced to use?"

    Because that is the only thing I think of when I hear about updates, or added features.
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    Image of Aetius Aetius
    10:11 AM

    @Voyou_Charmant: Exactly. Ewww iTunes. The software that people who don't know how to use software, use.
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    Image of kingbob337 kingbob337
    10:12 AM

    @Aetius: Or the people who are stuck with iphones =( I'm counting down the months now. I think I'm just going to axe mine when I'm finally able to get a new phone.
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    Image of ads2k2 ads2k2
    10:15 AM

    @Voyou_Charmant: iTunes works fine for me, but then again, I've got 8 gig of ram and a quad-core processor...
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    10:45 AM

    @Aetius: I wouldn't use it if I didn't have an iPod and iPhone.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11:11 AM

    @ads2k2: And that's pushing it. I'm guessing that just barely hits the minimum system requirements.
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    Image of ads2k2 ads2k2
    11:16 AM

    @Nathan Obbards: Bloat's not that bad! Just ask Microsoft.
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    Image of Eulatos Eulatos
    11:21 AM

    @Aetius: I know how to use tons of software, in fact learning software as fast as possible and then teaching it, is a huge part of my job.

    And i think itunes works excellently. After a week of using sweetFm i connect my laptop to my wifi and turn on home sharing and copy over all the new songs i have and no duplicates. It manages downloading and updating all my podcasts and it does it all pretty damn fast.

    I will say that the store loading is the only annoying and slow part of it all.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11:42 AM

    @Eulatos: iTunes works excellent in OS X. My 1.6GHz 533MHz FSB, 2GB RAM netbook hackintoshed to run Snow Leopard handles iTunes pretty much seamlessly. My 2.0 GHz, 667MHz FSB, 4MB L3 cache C2D T7200 with 4GB RAM chokes on it in Windows. It just was not coded well for Windows.
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    Image of Killjoy Killjoy
    12/08/09

    In reply to Latte-Sipping, Arugula-Eating Android Users Will Soon Enjoy NPR News App
    It's about time, too. My arugula latte is *seriously* lukewarm.
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    Image of Xagest Xagest
    12/08/09

    In reply to What Lala Means for the Streaming Future of iTunes
    My fear is that Apple will remove the "Upload your own music" function, restricting it to iTunes purchased music only. That sorta kills it for anyone who buys music from Amazon or Zune Marketplace.
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    Image of madog madog
    12/08/09

    @Xagest: That actually sounds like an Apple move to make. Then again, for those with backup issues as discussed below, it would mostly benefit the few iTunes store power users since you can't redownload music that doesn't exist in their catalog anymore (for that obvious reason) if one were to lose them.

    Then again would they even offer enough storage for those who have spent thousands of dollars?

    Edit: then again that would make sense to avoid potential hassles from the RIAA as the iTMS is exponentially more popular. You know they are the last group of tools who would want easy to use features that prevented people from having to repurchase music.
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    Image of Monty Monty
    12/08/09

    In reply to What Lala Means for the Streaming Future of iTunes
    If we judge the value of the purchase based on the size of that blue Apple lala image, it must be a monstrous acquisition.

    It is pretty clear that everyone is nudging everyone else to be first in line for the streaming show. Apple is likely just trying to hedge their bets on the purchase model iTunes is currently based on and will have a system in-place if and when streaming becomes mainstream. It is a smart move (as usual) by the fruity elves in Cupertino - now it is just a matter of sitting back and seeing if they can take advantage of it.
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/08/09

    @Monty: Good points. I'd bet the "fruity elves in Cupertino" as you so daftly put it probably will use it well. That said I'm not giving them an automatic pass as they have made mistakes before. We shouldn't let the great decade that was the 2000's blind us to Apple's prior blunders.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    12/08/09

    In reply to What Lala Means for the Streaming Future of iTunes
    HAha. oh gee. Apple buys up smaller companies and uses their IP to jazz up their programs.

    So all you MS bashers out there can suck it. It's standard practice in the industry even for the tantric sex genius guru bike knobs at cupertino. Standard. Practice.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    12/08/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: What the EFF, man?! noway!! Apple is the future of innovaton! you can barely even keep up with their smartsness! Man they're totes gonna release that tablet that Steve Jops personally handpicked FROM THE FUTURE. You don't even know, dude. WTeff?!

    theirs nothing at Aple that isnt 100 %cent original. their genuses. your nothing.
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/08/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Get Trolled Punkass MS fanboy!
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    Image of Debonair Debonair
    12/08/09

    @OCEntertainment: Who are their "genuses?" They own them? OH - you meant "they're geniuses" but don't know how to spell. Gotcha.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    12/08/09

    @Debonair: *WHOOSH*

    whoah did you see that, man? that went right over your head!
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    Image of Interstella5555 Interstella5555
    12/08/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Apple & MS both do this. Apple succeeds where MS fails. Life goes on.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    12/08/09

    @Interstella5555: Where did MS fail exactly? They have a long list of successfully appropriating programs to put out under their label. Really successful programs like PowerPoint.
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    12/08/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Sorry, the glare off the ribbon was screwing with my reasoning.
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/08/09

    In reply to Latte-Sipping, Arugula-Eating Android Users Will Soon Enjoy NPR News App
    So, when fundraising time comes along will users get inundated with messages asking for a $120 gift in exchange for passes to the local art museum that's free already several days a month?
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    Image of Mikestan Mikestan
    12/08/09

    In reply to What Lala Means for the Streaming Future of iTunes
    Pitchfork media had introduced me to lala. I'm sure Apple will do something amazing with that service.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    12/08/09

    @Mikestan: Hipster.
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    Image of Mikestan Mikestan
    12/08/09

    @Nathan Obbards: Takes one to know one
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    Image of chauncy that billups chauncy that billups
    12/08/09

    In reply to What Lala Means for the Streaming Future of iTunes
    What do you mean I've never heard of lala.com? I use it every day. Their "play a song once for free" policy is invaluable. Pitchfork.com also links to it in almost every album review.
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    Image of Hearthatvoiceagain Hearthatvoiceagain
    12/05/09

    In reply to Apple Is Now in the Streaming Music Business
    I assume that Music streaming will now be integrated into the iPod/iPhone. Since there are a number of apps that do this already will they be rejected from the itunes store for duplicating core functionality or confusing users. Please note I am not trying to start a fight here, I am asking what happens to existing approved apps when apple includes new functionality
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    Image of B3ND3R B3ND3R
    12/05/09

    In reply to Apple Is Now in the Streaming Music Business
    I have a feeling they are doing this to get Lala's talent/expertise, rather than any actual use out of what Lala has established (or not established, as the case may be).

    New server farm + Lala purchase + iTunes ubiquity + smartphone penetration + major label relationships = beating Spotify to the punch in the US.
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    Image of dragon:ONE dragon:ONE
    11/30/09

    In reply to Anybody Can Create an iTunes LP or Extras Now
    Ah. I created a BSoD Extra. ARM.
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