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    iTunes "Popular Songs Cost More Money" Pricing Goes Live April 7

    You Can Now Upgrade Your iTunes Library One Track or Album at a Time

    iTunes Wants $250 To Upgrade My Music Collection (Or the Deal's Off)

    Yep, iTunes Embeds Your Email Address in DRM-Free Tracks, Move Along

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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    03/26/09

    In reply to iTunes "Popular Songs Cost More Money" Pricing Goes Live April 7
    Album prices are already usually a bargain - I hope they don't change. I don't buy individual tracks (so far yet) but if I wanted one at $1.29... I'd just wait until it was less popular.
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    03/26/09

    In reply to iTunes "Popular Songs Cost More Money" Pricing Goes Live April 7
    The labels have been pushing hard on this for awhile while Apple resisted. Looks like the labels finally got their way.


    I bet it's because the original model of "everything is .99" is long gone as iTunes has diversified and prices are really all over the place, from different resolutions of TV shows to Apps. So the original impulse to keep everything at .99 when everything was songs is kind of no longer relevant.

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    Image of ddhboy ddhboy
    03/26/09

    @frigg: To who? This is going to crash and burn how that its not an impulse buy anymore. I was debating song purchases at 99 cents, I certainly won't pay 1.29 for a song when iTunes points you in the direction of several similar, less popular and now cheaper songs, not like I was buying top 20s anyway.
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    Image of frigg frigg
    03/26/09

    @ddhboy: No longer relevant to Apple.


    At first, Apple insisted on keeping everything .99 not to keep everything as an impulse buy, but because the single price helped iTunes remains simple and Appley. Just like Apple doesn't like too many products, they wanted to keep the iTunes store as simple as possible in order to establish it. Since Apple isn't making their money from songs - just the hardware, they don't really care about the actual price of songs. Apple's main interest in iTunes is making it as simple to use and palatable to customers. If anything, charging 1.29 rather than .99 hurts rather than helps Apple, and Apple resisted the price increase.


    However, now that iTunes involves much more than music, and the TV and film industry won't agree to the same single price "experiment" that the music industry agreed to, the single price model is history.


    Given that, Apple no longer has their original reason to strong arm the music industry into accepting a single price.


    At the same time, the music industry is collapsing, and has argued for higher prices for more popular songs for awhile. Apple got its way with DRM-free songs, and is ceding multiple-tiered pricing in return.


    I'm not sure if it will crash and burn or if it will be no big deal. Maybe people who buy top 20 don't care. Also, I'm not sure how they'll determine the price, if that's something the record company will do, or if they'll be algorithms that sort it out. It's possible that if there are algorithms, the system can intelligently adjust to demand, so that if no one is buying a song at 1.29 it reverts to .99. Although that could also piss people off, if they buy a song for 1.29 one day and it drops to .99 the next.

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    Image of strider_mt2k strider_mt2k
    03/26/09

    In reply to iTunes "Popular Songs Cost More Money" Pricing Goes Live April 7
    Lemmings.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    03/26/09

    In reply to iTunes "Popular Songs Cost More Money" Pricing Goes Live April 7
    Hopefully, "popular" music means that I find the majority of the stuff that gets a price hike, pure and pungent shit.
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    Image of Redwraithvienna Redwraithvienna
    03/26/09

    In reply to iTunes "Popular Songs Cost More Money" Pricing Goes Live April 7
    If your prediction comes true and the Studios will earn less with 1.29 USD then with .99 USD due to selling a lot less they will go back to the old system pretty fast ...
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    04/08/09

    @Redwraithvienna:


    Um, when has this happened? Executives never do what is logical. Higher prices equals less profit? They will send out a press release blaming the economy. Or torrents. Or Steve Jobs.


    They ain't gonna lower the prices, though.

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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    03/26/09

    In reply to iTunes "Popular Songs Cost More Money" Pricing Goes Live April 7
    "Supply and demand". Poppycock my good douche!


    Now see here. You want to raise the prices on your phonographic wares while higher demand would only mean more downloading? I scoff at thee. Don't tell me that your intertubes can't take the added pressure of all those purchases.

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    Image of SJBritish SJBritish
    03/26/09

    In reply to iTunes "Popular Songs Cost More Money" Pricing Goes Live April 7
    back to limewire it is
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    03/26/09

    @SJBritish: I suppose you haven't read OMG! Ponies!'s misanthropic musings on the festering cesspool that is the torrent stream.


    When you get to the precipice, don't say he didn't warn you.

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    Image of frigg frigg
    01/29/09

    In reply to You Can Now Upgrade Your iTunes Library One Track or Album at a Time
    BUT HUMANS ARE STILL MORTAL AND DIE!!!


    WTF?


    WHY APPLE, WHY DO YOU STILL CONDONE HUMAN MORTALITY???

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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    01/29/09

    In reply to You Can Now Upgrade Your iTunes Library One Track or Album at a Time


    It would sure be a shame for you to lose all your music. Of course, if you pay us a little bit more, maybe you won't have to worry about DRM comin' in and smashing up the place.

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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    01/29/09

    In reply to You Can Now Upgrade Your iTunes Library One Track or Album at a Time
    So I can pay Apple to remove the DRM that I didn't want in the first place? Yay!
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    Image of Rabid Penguin Rabid Penguin
    01/29/09

    In reply to You Can Now Upgrade Your iTunes Library One Track or Album at a Time
    I still just buy CDs...
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    Image of UnexpectedEOF UnexpectedEOF
    01/29/09

    In reply to You Can Now Upgrade Your iTunes Library One Track or Album at a Time
    I don't get why this couldn't have been available at the start
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    01/29/09

    @UnexpectedEOF: How else would they make money from those who think they didn't have any choice but to upgrade all of their songs?
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    Image of Spero Spero
    01/29/09

    @ripfire: You mean live in a world where all your music is still at a lower bitrate with some DRM? Unthinkable! Horrors! People literally died from that in the Olden Days.
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    01/29/09

    @Spero: Yes because listening to Womanizer in 256kbps is pure bliss. *rolls eyes*
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    01/29/09

    @UnexpectedEOF: Same reason they don't build an FM radio into an iPod...


    So they can charge you more.

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    01/29/09

    @ripfire: Hey, you haven't heard Womanizer until you've listened to it in in 256kbps...
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    01/29/09

    @ripfire: Exactly why.


    Part of it might also be that they didn't really think it through.


    I still think that they just rolled out with the same system they used when EMI when DRM free. Obviously that was cheaper so people didn't really have a problem with paying for it all at once. Here (at least for me) you're talking hundreds of dollars. I think they probably listened to the uproar and made it an option.

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    01/29/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate: You can play 2-56 to all the other chick out here, but I know what you are. What you are....baby.
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    01/29/09

    @tande04: I bet they knew. And they probably knew there was going to be an uproar and they probably planned to make the individual upgrade option eventually. They just wanted to see who will bite the bait of upgrading all their songs at once.
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    Image of frigg frigg
    01/14/09

    In reply to iTunes Wants $250 To Upgrade My Music Collection (Or the Deal's Off)
    So, I take it, if you write a book and try and sell it in as an audio book, you and your family are cool with readers stealing it since some unrelated fruited 3rd party company charged them to upgrade their files in early 2009?


    /musician who has nothing to do with iTunes upgrade fees, and RIAA douche-baggery, and still doesn't like to be stolen from.

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    Image of dhlt25 dhlt25
    01/14/09

    In reply to iTunes Wants $250 To Upgrade My Music Collection (Or the Deal's Off)
    ha suckers, i bought all of my music from amazon.
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    Image of Monty Monty
    01/14/09

    @dhlt25: Showoff.
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    Image of spider2544 spider2544
    01/14/09

    In reply to iTunes Wants $250 To Upgrade My Music Collection (Or the Deal's Off)
    dude just go steal the music. you already paid for it.
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    Image of Monty Monty
    01/14/09

    @spider2544: Technically, they paid for a 128K DRM copy, not a DRM-free version. To "steal" (not technically the right term) the music would still be copyright violation, and the fact you paid for a crappy version of it earlier does not diminish the "crime".
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