The original version looks a lot better for gaming on the go, as it doesn't significantly decrease the pocketability of the phone. This looks like something you'd need to pull out of a bag or briefcase whenever you want to play games. And I can't see it running for less than $100, at which point I'd have to agree with all the people who said you might as well just buy a DS. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
It just proves the point that the iPhone didn't need to be small and slick with a wonderous touch screen display - it needed to be ridiculously huge, more battery life, plenty of buttons, made with cheap plastic from a Datsun dashboard, and have a design based on the original PlayStation controller. Finally, the perfect iPhone has arrived.
@OMG! Ponies!: I recall reading that the iPhone 3gs is more powerful than the PSP. All it would take is a supported accessory like this (without the jailbrake requirement anyhow) for gaming on the iPhone/iPod Touch to be no different than on a handheld. Well, beside being more powerful. It would be like putting what's good about the DS (touch screen and developer support) together with what's good about the PSP (more online features and better hardware). #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
@cabjf: A non-Jailbreak version is about as likely as an outbreak of avian-swine flu as the only way that Apple can sell IP like the above-pictured Super Mario Kart is by licensing it from Nintendo.
Emulators are unlicensed versions of the programs and Apple does have a somewhat understandable reason to try to break Jailbreak capability - to avoid getting sued by the likes of Nintendo and Sony, as well as every other major software developer.
Finally, remember the old saw - a Jack of all trades is a master of none. As a smartphone, the iPhone is pretty darned good (not as good as a Blackberry for business use though). As a PMP, it's also pretty darned good. As a gaming platform, it's mediocre at best. I'd rather play games on a device built to play games. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
@OMG! Ponies!: Couldn't Nintendo offer the game? Apple doesn't offer any of the apps, companies pay them to deploy their apps on the iphone. So theoretically, Nintendo could offer an iphone app that works with this extension (although they would probably make one themselves) and it would be fine. You're right in the fact that it would probably never happen though.
Besides, this device doesn't have to be limited to emulators. Game devs could support it for their own games.
Steve Jobs has said that he wants the iPod Touch to become a gaming platform, it just needs to grow more and get better games than all of the free/$0.99 ones it has now.
@OMG! Ponies!: There are plenty of people who prefer a saw (read: PC) for gaming compared to the a console.
You are right in that companies would have to bring their IP to the iPhone for it to be a successful gaming device and you would likely never see the someone like Nintendo, with their own successful portable device, on the iPhone. I thought anyone could put out an accessory for the iPhone though so long as it was either approved by Apple or contained whatever authentication chip is required? What I'm picturing is someone coming along and releasing an accessory like this for non-jailbroken iPhones and then iPhone game developers making use of it (maybe even requiring it to work with their games since multi-touch only really works with certain types of games). #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
@noodleashy143: Nintendo and Apple are very similar in one respect; Control. Nintendo would never release anything on the iPhone because, just like Apple, they value having complete control on their hardware and software. Releasing their software elsewhere means they are surrendering some of that grip they have on their products. It would cut down on their profit margins. It's much more likely to see even Microsoft team up with Apple for gaming than it would be Nintendo.
Fortunately, Nintendo no longer makes money off of older systems because everything you buy for them is pretty much used now so emulators probably won't be done away with any time soon. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
@Noobs-R-Us: not jailbreaking is like letting someone else put a used condom on you, that you can't change... and you don't even know who else used it, ew! #iphonewormrickrolljailbroken
@Lukasz Fabis: Nay! You must cast of the chains of oppression & tyranny that Steve Jobs has placed upon you. Fight the good fight. Never give up! Never surrender! Or you could just move to the land of the free by buying the Droid. #iphonewormrickrolljailbroken
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I'm perfectly content with my iPhone as it is.
I've tried jailbreaking a couple of times. All the half-assed features and ugly workarounds offered by it aren't worth the hit to stability.
I'm sure there are people that (tastelessly) want to make their iPhones look like Windows Vista. I'm sure there are people that want their phone to vibrate like a dildo when typing messages. I'm sure there are people that want to waste resources by running several apps concurrently.
@Lukasz Fabis: Hey, not jailbreaking is fine if all you want is fart apps. But if you want to do things that are actually useful (as others pointed out, Skype, Pandora, etc), then backgrounding is a must.
And before you flame me, I'm just echoing your hyperbolic style on the other side.
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I still fail to see what jailbreaking has to offer there, though. Skype and Pandora are still usable without jailbreaking. Sure, you can get workarounds for some of those apps' shortcommings, but I certainly don't feel the tradeoffs are worth it. #iphonewormrickrolljailbroken
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Emulators are unlicensed versions of the programs and Apple does have a somewhat understandable reason to try to break Jailbreak capability - to avoid getting sued by the likes of Nintendo and Sony, as well as every other major software developer.
Finally, remember the old saw - a Jack of all trades is a master of none. As a smartphone, the iPhone is pretty darned good (not as good as a Blackberry for business use though). As a PMP, it's also pretty darned good. As a gaming platform, it's mediocre at best. I'd rather play games on a device built to play games. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
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Besides, this device doesn't have to be limited to emulators. Game devs could support it for their own games.
Steve Jobs has said that he wants the iPod Touch to become a gaming platform, it just needs to grow more and get better games than all of the free/$0.99 ones it has now.
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You are right in that companies would have to bring their IP to the iPhone for it to be a successful gaming device and you would likely never see the someone like Nintendo, with their own successful portable device, on the iPhone. I thought anyone could put out an accessory for the iPhone though so long as it was either approved by Apple or contained whatever authentication chip is required? What I'm picturing is someone coming along and releasing an accessory like this for non-jailbroken iPhones and then iPhone game developers making use of it (maybe even requiring it to work with their games since multi-touch only really works with certain types of games). #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
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Fortunately, Nintendo no longer makes money off of older systems because everything you buy for them is pretty much used now so emulators probably won't be done away with any time soon. #icontrolpadnewdesignanalog
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I'm perfectly content with my iPhone as it is.
I've tried jailbreaking a couple of times. All the half-assed features and ugly workarounds offered by it aren't worth the hit to stability.
I'm sure there are people that (tastelessly) want to make their iPhones look like Windows Vista. I'm sure there are people that want their phone to vibrate like a dildo when typing messages. I'm sure there are people that want to waste resources by running several apps concurrently.
I'm not one of them.
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And before you flame me, I'm just echoing your hyperbolic style on the other side.
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I'm not much of a flamer.
I still fail to see what jailbreaking has to offer there, though. Skype and Pandora are still usable without jailbreaking. Sure, you can get workarounds for some of those apps' shortcommings, but I certainly don't feel the tradeoffs are worth it. #iphonewormrickrolljailbroken
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I'm thinking the second one. #iphonewormrickrolljailbroken
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Even it it was a US phone its not that big of a deal since you can quite easily do it. #iphonejailbreakhack
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