That's... not good. Sure, some cash is important for operational purposes, but not $34B. If they don't have some spectacular purpose in mind, that money should be invested or returned to shareholder in a special dividend (like Microsoft did to its famous warchest after its legal liabilities went away).
@jepzilla: As mentioned in the "CEO of the Decade" article, that downward slope from 12/96 to 9/97 was heading rapidly to the X-axis - bankruptcy.
I would expect Apple to use this cash for something more productive than financial holdings once the worldwide economy turns around. If you are a shareholder (and I am), you shouldn't be upset that Apple is sitting on a big pile of cash when financing is hard to come by and short-term financial investments have a large potential upside.
It's not like the CFO put the cash under his bed and refuses to let Apple have it back... #chartoftheday
@jepzilla: If I was a shareholder I would rather Apple keep the cash (as long as I kept a good return) in a bid to keep stability later on down the line. Have them invest it in good R&D with a longer term picture in mind.
@Don Nguyen: The point is, Apple shareholders are getting basically no return on that $34B right now. It's cash, that means it's almost certainly not getting a good real return. $34B in cash is money that's NOT being spent on R&D. I agree, they should invest it in good R&D. Hire some more engineers and start working on new products, or build a research lab, or do venture funding or something.
@jepzilla: Have you been following Apple's stock for the past year or so? They're basically recession proof. I think shareholders, like myself, are doing just fine. #chartoftheday
@jepzilla: Right they need to do something with it.
Its sitting there now. I'm sure they've got it in some great stuff that I could only dream of having similar returns but its not being used.
$34 billion is a lot. A lot is an understatement. Its the GNP of a small country.
Yes, financing is tough to come by in this economy. What are they going to have to finance for $34 billion though?
Its very, very similar to the money just sitting under Steve's bed. #chartoftheday
@jinushaun: Nothing and no one is recession proof. Apple has the same kind of investor ride Google was getting after it's IPO. Apple = profitable but shares are trading between 45 and 60x P/E. That and your not getting a dividend. It makes me wonder why they are charging such a premium to hold their stock and what they plan on doing with that stockpile. If it's not a big acquisition, $34B is WAY too much money to have on the sidelines... It makes me wonder if they're waiting for some inevitable FTC anti-trust smack-down for the iTunes/iPhone/iPod ecosystem... #chartoftheday
@jepzilla:
During recessions cash is king. Especially now when liquidity is hard to come by, it gives Apple complete freedom on how to run their business.
Agreed that 34B is a lot, but not for a company with the growth like Apple. #chartoftheday
Or be a really hot babe (with a good set and I dont mean a good skill set) for Jesus to look at all day while he does his own photochops. ;) #graphicsintern
The core problem with this gig is that Mac tends to attract dumb hotties with rich daddies. PC tends to attract fatties working at the same mall and WoW freaks.
@Ps360facepunch: I haven't really encountered particularly smug "Geniuses", but they'll only dole as much shit as they think you can tolerate. It's just that a lot of the customers that wander into Apple stores are too passive and it makes them bold. At least, that's my observation. #microsofthiringwindowsgurus
I found just how terrible the Station A (SoHo) and Apple Cube service is (including the intolerable waits even if you have an appointment) when I went to an Apple Store at a suburban mall.
I waited for about 10 minutes past my appointment time, the gentleman was direct and concise, and bottom-lined everything.
If I didn't hate retail from my experience as a teenager and my first jobs, I'd consider it. Retail really can't pay me enough to give a fuck about pushing their products. That, and I already have a job. #microsofthiringwindowsgurus
@Software_Goddess: Mira puta the "lol" is supposed to reduce the meaning of "bitch" down to a playful word and I don't give a smash what your resume looks like you selfcentered, think you're better than everyone conceded piruja! #graphicsintern
Why not have a contest? Something that judges speed and quality.
Post a strange photoshop task (something that nobody will already have completed) Then accept all entries that come in within 1/2 hour. Pick the best ones. #graphicsintern
@Navin R Johnson: I would assume that "Apple Numbers 2009" (just below the Have a Mac bullet point) is a software application only available on Mac OS?
However, he didn't mention "able to read English" as a job requirement. So you might still have a chance. #graphicsintern
@Geisrud: Well that a relief. I was so terrified I wouldn't be qualified for a low paying job pasting Steve Jobs head into photos from Flickr's creative commons pool. Not to mention all those speach bubbles I'll get to create.
Here's the thing; If you apply for, and are selected for a job position and don't like the offered salary, you can turn the job down. Don't let the lack of mention of pay be your excuse for applying for a job that you want.
@DaveExile (Starless since 2006!): Intentional or not, having met a number of junior folks on the masthead, I think they are comfortable with that result.
They're looking for folks who are excited to do the above with no/few questions asked. And while I'm not that person anymore, that person definitely does exist. I remember being that person.
In the legal world, you get something similar with paralegals and investigators. "Must be high energy. Willing to work crazy hours and do whatever intense thing needs to get done. You'll get great experience." And that's it.
Not surprisingly, most of them were between 22-26. #meta
@92BuickLeSabre: I remember being that person too. I suppose it was well before the rigors of grad school, etc.
Though, as a sometime inhabitant of the legal world also, I must add that the paralegals I knew of were full-time, had a salary, and had an expectation of the general requirements/benefits of the position. I thought that was a given in seeking top canditates: I've been wrong before.
Of course, I have never heard such pointed complaints about applicants--I submit that if you have to tell someone to re-read the application in the application it is time to make changes. #meta
@DaveExile (Starless since 2006!): it's not about pay -- pay is decent, especially considering how all major media companies are shedding bodies. it's the fact that this job is hard at all levels and I need people who can suck it up and deliver. everyone, from intern to me, works hard here and that'll never change. most people in mainstream media have not had the work ethic to keep up. #meta
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I would expect Apple to use this cash for something more productive than financial holdings once the worldwide economy turns around. If you are a shareholder (and I am), you shouldn't be upset that Apple is sitting on a big pile of cash when financing is hard to come by and short-term financial investments have a large potential upside.
It's not like the CFO put the cash under his bed and refuses to let Apple have it back... #chartoftheday
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Its sitting there now. I'm sure they've got it in some great stuff that I could only dream of having similar returns but its not being used.
$34 billion is a lot. A lot is an understatement. Its the GNP of a small country.
Yes, financing is tough to come by in this economy. What are they going to have to finance for $34 billion though?
Its very, very similar to the money just sitting under Steve's bed. #chartoftheday
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During recessions cash is king. Especially now when liquidity is hard to come by, it gives Apple complete freedom on how to run their business.
Agreed that 34B is a lot, but not for a company with the growth like Apple. #chartoftheday
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@Adam Frucci: ~15 minutes worth of hot LamFrucci goodness! #jobs
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@Adam Frucci: Frucci,
I proved it, my making someone else do it for me :D #jobs
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Then again, they're Gizmodo followers - meaning that they're all a bunch of Mac fanboys. #microsofthiringwindowsgurus
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I think the choice is clear...
P.S. NO FAT CHICKS #microsofthiringwindowsgurus
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I found just how terrible the Station A (SoHo) and Apple Cube service is (including the intolerable waits even if you have an appointment) when I went to an Apple Store at a suburban mall.
I waited for about 10 minutes past my appointment time, the gentleman was direct and concise, and bottom-lined everything.
The guys working the counters in NYC are prickish because they can be prickish. #microsofthiringwindowsgurus
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zona rosa! #microsofthiringwindowsgurus
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Not going to happen. #graphicsintern
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If you had any idea what my resume already looks like, you’d choke on those words, idiot! #graphicsintern
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Post a strange photoshop task (something that nobody will already have completed) Then accept all entries that come in within 1/2 hour. Pick the best ones. #graphicsintern
10/20/09
I don't see any reasoning below (or above)
Is there such thing as PC-discrimination? #graphicsintern
10/21/09
However, he didn't mention "able to read English" as a job requirement. So you might still have a chance. #graphicsintern
10/21/09
Whew. Thanks for clearing that up for me. #graphicsintern
10/20/09
Here's the thing; If you apply for, and are selected for a job position and don't like the offered salary, you can turn the job down. Don't let the lack of mention of pay be your excuse for applying for a job that you want.
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college kids work cheap....(they have to) #meta
10/20/09
They're looking for folks who are excited to do the above with no/few questions asked. And while I'm not that person anymore, that person definitely does exist. I remember being that person.
In the legal world, you get something similar with paralegals and investigators. "Must be high energy. Willing to work crazy hours and do whatever intense thing needs to get done. You'll get great experience." And that's it.
Not surprisingly, most of them were between 22-26. #meta
10/20/09
Though, as a sometime inhabitant of the legal world also, I must add that the paralegals I knew of were full-time, had a salary, and had an expectation of the general requirements/benefits of the position. I thought that was a given in seeking top canditates: I've been wrong before.
Of course, I have never heard such pointed complaints about applicants--I submit that if you have to tell someone to re-read the application in the application it is time to make changes. #meta
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