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    Image of yoshi yoshi
    12/31/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    I am sorry but people's livelyhood are at stake. If the CEO's health is in question then shareholder's have a right to know what is wrong and whether or not he's capable of running the company.


    Personally, I think it's kind of selfish of them to withhold this information. The world is much bigger than one person.

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    Image of frigg frigg
    12/31/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    Since every other aspect of the article has already been nitpicked to death, the only thing remaining that I can possibly add is that Katie is spelled with one T.
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    12/31/08

    @frigg: Ironically, you are immune to Frigg's Law. How is that even possible?
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    Image of frigg frigg
    12/31/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: Best I can think is when I was a kid I put instant coffee in a microwave oven in order to tear open the space-time continuum and have superpowers shoot out. Like every kid, I suppose I was hoping for the ability to harness kinetic energy into some sort of death ray, or at least get spider webs to shoot out of my wrists. Sadly, none of those occurred, and it was only years later, while sitting in a field in my cousin's farm next to a glowing green rock that made me feel queasy and mildly fatigued that I realized the cruel irony of what set me apart, what made me different, what made me not like all the other Amish children (Mennonite, actually) wish whom I had grown up. It was the fact that I had this uncanny immunity from Frigg's Law.


    For an entire weekend, I refrained from commenting on blogs, actually, only this one, as I came to terms with a condition that, while others might think "gee that'd be nice to have," had already set me apart. I couldn't help but wonder, when other denizens of the net looked at me, did they see me, or did they see the freak that I had become?


    The only choice was to never ever correct anyone's grammar or spelling on the net, never ever again. And I never do. Except... when some great public interest is at stake, or a doe-eyed damsel is about to fall from a metropolitan landmark due to an error in grammar or spelling, or it's morning and I just feel like commenting mindlessly, that it... happens. I forget. I forget, and I correct, and the tenets of Frigg's Law crumble ironically and mockingly as I spew yet another unnecessary correction over the glans internette.

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    Image of orthorim orthorim
    12/31/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    This better be true or I am going to back to _that other_ gadget blog.


    This is such an easy one to make up, and so lucrative. Just short 10,000 shares of AAPL and make 3 grand in a minute. Wonderful... just for that reason, I am sceptical.


    If Jobs is indeed sick I'd think he'll maybe have more of a background role and Apple will kick as much ass as before. The guy isn't even 60 and has access to the best doctors known to man. I mean, really.

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    Image of frigg frigg
    12/31/08

    @orthorim: All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put 95% of pancreatic cancer patients back together again.
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    Image of Theoutlet Theoutlet
    12/31/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    This is entirely too depressing.


    Here's hoping for another miraculous recovery!

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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    Man, this thing has got some legs. My gf and I were out to dinner and I overheard the people at the table next to us talking about this. The main debating points they seemed to be stuck on was whether or not shareholders have a right to know details of the CEO's (or any of the other upper management) status of health. Second was the matter of Apple's agenda of misleading the public, hiding the severity of the issue and how much of a factor this situation may (or may not) have had on their withdrawing from MacWorld.


    This was the first time I've heard complete strangers talking about Gizmodo... and it was definitely weird and sad at the same time, given the topic at hand.

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    Image of XgamerM XgamerM
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    You guys just got nailed on CNBC as well regarding this story. Apple has officially denied the story which makes one think that you clearly got it wrong.


    Would they really go out and deny a story like this and then get blasted "months from now when the inevitable happens" per your story? Seems unlikely...


    I think you need to have the lawyers ready...when you print/publish false stories you will be targeted.

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    Image of Cordfucious of Tech Clan Cordfucious of Tech Clan
    12/30/08

    @XgamerM: yeah and CNBC is sooo credible... LMAO
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    Image of Jesus Diaz Jesus Diaz
    12/30/08

    @XgamerM: Apple has NOT denied this story.


    CNBC has provided ZERO facts and just parroted Apple's PR lines.


    Apple PR has LIED in the past regarding Steve's health, as told by Steve himself.


    Learn to read. Stop spreading FUD.

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    12/31/08

    @XgamerM: Yes. Apple would go out and deny a story like this and then get blasted months from now when the inevitable happens.


    Valleywag reported on precisely this fact pattern on Friday when Apple's PR flack got caught in a bald-faced lie by Joe Nocera of the NYTimes, having dismissed health concerns regarding Steve Jobs as "just a common bug".


    [valleywag.gawker.com]


    [www.nytimes.com]


    "By claiming Mr. Jobs had a bug, Apple wasn't just going dark on its shareholders; it was deceiving them." Those are the words of Joe Nocera of the NYTimes.


    Not only would Apple lie about the health of Steve Jobs, there is precedent for Apple lying about the health of Steve Jobs.

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    Image of Cordfucious of Tech Clan Cordfucious of Tech Clan
    12/31/08

    @Jesus Diaz: THANK YOU.

    Man the apple kool aid is strong in this one.
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    Image of dXXXXX dXXXXX
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    This is a shitty, irresponsible rumor for Gizmodo to be putting out there. I don't care how reliable your sources are. The stock fell as a result of this rumor in an already declining economy.


    I hope your 15 minutes of fame was worth it.

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    Image of Cordfucious of Tech Clan Cordfucious of Tech Clan
    12/30/08

    @dXXXXX: STFU already and read a basic economics book... the stock is fine asshole... HE IS DYING... it doesnt take a damn scientist to figure it out. Like my man Monty said... shit is all gravy when News pumps up the stock... but God forbid new drops it a point or 2..the AWWWW THE HORROR....


    Grow some balls and stop being a damn sheep.


    Jesus I have your back on this one.

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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/31/08

    @dXXXXX: The stock fell - and?


    Here's how the stock market works: You buy a share at a strike price. If the share value goes up, you can sell at a profit. If the share value goes down, if you sell the share, it will be at a loss.


    Here's the part I don't think you understand: You are allowed to keep a share for as long as you want. There is no rule that says you need to sell off all your shares at the end of business every day. Some people hold onto shares for days, weeks or months at a time. There are even some people who hold onto shares for years; they are called investors.


    You do not see a profit or a loss until you actually sell the share.


    If you bought a share of AAPL at noon yesterday for $88 and then sold it one hour later for $85, you lost $3. Put in perspective, if you hopped on the AAPL bandwagon in April and bought a share for $185 and sold your share yesterday for $85, you lost $100. There's a term for this kind of trading behavior: stupidity.


    When you sell shares at a loss, you are losing money. The trick is to not sell your stocks for less money than you paid. You cannot make money in the stock market by selling your portfolio at a loss.


    If someone lost money yesterday because they sold based on this story, they deserved to lose their money.

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    Image of Michael Murdock Michael Murdock
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    Well, our prayers are with him. Hope he gets back on his feet soon. If it's time...it's time and God bless you on your journey. Apple...if you need help weathering this, just call, I am here for all of you.


    Michael Murdock, former Macintosh Systems Engineer

    Pixar Animation Studios 1991-1997

    now CEO of DocMurdock.com

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    Image of mmeister mmeister
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    Gizmodo's rumor mongering is now at the extreme. Either Gizmodo puts up some real evidence that what they say is true, or they should be called out as liars.


    I've watched this site deceive its readers with misleading headlines more and more as the war for eyeballs increases. Facts become less important than getting a story out there fast, fast, fast.


    I'm already one step away from dropping it from my regular reading.

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    Image of Cordfucious of Tech Clan Cordfucious of Tech Clan
    12/30/08

    @mmeister: BYE.... GTFO...
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    Image of Cordfucious of Tech Clan Cordfucious of Tech Clan
    12/30/08

    @Cordfucious the Ubuntu Walker who loves his wife for the So...: BTW I have some weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq i'd like to sell you as well
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    Image of faunaman faunaman
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    Can you explain me why have I been banned?
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    12/30/08

    @faunaman: "Another asshole who never had an Apple product, maybe because he is another ghetto-nerd-wanker who claims not to have the buuuaaahhhh moneyyy to pay overpriced and seamless working computers."


    There's a banworthy gem right there.

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    Image of CameoBabalindo CameoBabalindo
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    No, Jesus does NOT deserve a break in this case. If he is wrong (and there are indications that he is), then he and Gizmodo will be forever branded as one of the many uncredible sources for Apple news. I know that I will most likely never read this site again, if his "report" turns out to be wrong.

    FWIW, Apple and Jobs LIKE Jim Goldman and CNBC; if something was wrong with Jobs, Goldman would definitely know more about it than any source the Jesus has.
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    Image of Cordfucious of Tech Clan Cordfucious of Tech Clan
    12/30/08

    @CameoBabalindo: wait... I cant stop laughing at that last line........ wow your naivete' [sic] is amazing
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    Image of Monty Monty
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    It amazes me that people are perfectly happy with web sites posting rumors about things that bump up Apple stock, but fear the investor that lost a few pennies.


    I could care less about rumor posting or the price of Apple stock -- I am concerned about the health of Steve Jobs. We all should be.

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    Image of Brian Lam Brian Lam
    12/30/08

    @Monty: well put.
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    Image of WoodleyKnukka WoodleyKnukka
    12/30/08

    @Monty:

    I have the same rare pancreatic cancer as Mr. Jobs and I was diagnosed before him and I'm 100% fine. No reason he won't be here for many years to come.
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    Image of Cordfucious of Tech Clan Cordfucious of Tech Clan
    12/30/08

    @WoodleyKnukka: No two cancers are the same... now that was just plain ass stupid to say.


    Thats worse than sharing PRESCRIPTION medications. Its PRESCRIBED FOR A REASON.

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    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    Okay kids. Time to settle down. Jesus has once again put his good name on the line to bring to light a story.


    Sometimes, it seems like the writers can't catch a break. Either they catch flack for writing "fluff" or they get yelled at for having a good scoop. There's a hell of a lot of hate being directed at Jesus and it should stop.


    If he's wrong, there'll be a mea culpa. I hope to see the same from the naysayers if he's right. Until then, we'll see what we'll see.


    Finally, look at the masthead on the left. The journalism industry is taking a beating - including tech journalism. And Gizmodo is doing a good enough job that they can expand.


    Take it easy on Jesus.

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    Image of Gibberish Gibberish
    12/30/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: I don't think anyone is being hard on him. It's more like we are worried for this guy...at least I am. It's one thing to be wrong, but it is a whole different ball game to walk the line of a rumor of this scale. I can't bring myself together to say "I hope he's right" because I never wish anything bad on a person. Note that he has bolded the headline so no one can miss it. I hate to say this but I think he's got a lot to defend.
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    12/30/08

    @Gibberish: Look down at the next thread. There's a lot of this. And around the net, everyone's dumping on Jesus too.


    The facts aren't in and people need to reserve judgment until they are.


    And yes, the headline is front and center. It's a big story.

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    Image of Cordfucious of Tech Clan Cordfucious of Tech Clan
    12/30/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: I just think its a lack or realization on EVERYONES PART. Are we really that naive to believe that a CNBC reporter doesn't want to get scooped by a tech blog, thus undermining the credibility of its source and story... COME ON NOW!!!
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    Image of IrmaDryope IrmaDryope
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    Deepthroat?????

    You idiots.

    Deepthroat was a source. From there all information had to be verified by two other sources before being published by the Washington Post. Did you guys get any verification? Of course not. Just another !@#$#$@$ rumor. I know you people at Giz hate Apple but this is irresponsible.

    Hear that knock Giz?

    I think I hear the Apple lawyers at the door.

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    Image of Cormier Cormier
    12/30/08

    @IrmaDryope:


    They did label it as a rumor...


    P.S. I'd like to deep-throat you baby ;)

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    Image of IrmaDryope IrmaDryope
    12/30/08

    @Cormier6083:

    And Giz put those rumors out there. Unsupported rumors that cause a stock to fall should be investigated as to motivation.

    This isnt journalism. It's not the first time I've been disgusted by Giz or the action of its employees. Like the guy that took the remotes in and turned the monitors on and off at the trade show last year. Just childish behavior. I come looking for information...not animal house journalism.
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    12/30/08

    @IrmaDryope: FOX News is looking for a new fanboy.. I think you fit the bill
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    Image of AzaleaSneep AzaleaSneep
    12/30/08

    In reply to Steve Jobs' Health Declining Rapidly, Reason for Macworld Cancellation
    This "rumor" has a serious flaw in its internal logic. Jobs suffered and was successfully treated for pancreatic cancer in July 2004 and received the Whipple Procedure.

    The flaw in the rumor is that the source says that "sometime in spring" serious health news about Jobs will arise. Spring is at least 2 to 3 months away, a reoccurrence of pancreatic cancer is usually shown to be non-localized--metastasing throughout the body.

    See: http://news.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news-3/Disease-progression-model-of-pancreatic-cancer-developed-by-Penn-researchers-9816-1/

    In short the logic is flawed, because if there was a re-occurence of the cancer, then it would demand a full-scale immediate medical treatment that could not and would not be known until spring of next year.
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    12/30/08

    @AzaleaSneep: that is so not true on so many levels..


    As a medical professional (Pharmacist) who specializes in Oncology... you are wrong wrong wrong. At MD Anderson we see THOUSANDS of relapses, many that are untreatable. ESPECIALLY with Pancreatic cancer. And if you know ANYTHING about cancer and when it METS it's DEVASTATING; and there is no more treatment. YOU PREPARE TO DIE. No chemo no radiation...NOTHING ... Steve may be headed to LTC or Hospice.... he is DYING and getting his affairs in order.

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    12/31/08

    @AzaleaSneep: The medical literature on Jobs' carcinoma disagrees with you. The median survival rate is about 3 years.


    [www.asco.org]

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