@OMG! Ponies!: you can't get rid of the beast. what does that say about Ponies! if you get rid of the tried and true just cause you're moving to san fran.
@TVGenius: My though exactly!!!. First thing I though was you NEVER put on of these on the side, they are not engineered to handle 120+ Lbs on the plastic side of it. The Frikking base is at the BASE.... So I though maybe it's OK and the box does not say... NOPE. Sure enough the arrow is on the upper left of the box.
I bet when they stack them, they lay them flat to save space. (another NO-NO).
@aec007: Yeah, laying 'em flat is probably the worst of the ways to lay 'em, especially when shipping. Vibration and bumps will cause the glass to bow.
Probably not too bad on the side; sure it's 120+ lbs., but the plastic is nicely ensconced in foam, so the lbs./in.^2 won't be too bad. Shipping them that way probably gets bad though.
..and how did you not get one of those into the back of a taxi? The hand truck is right there. They're making it so easy that it's practically not stealing!
Nice try but no... Pioneer smoked anything and everything for color quality and black levels ohhh and speed. (Every Plasma is 480HZ) Plus none of that weird movie speed up and lag that 120Hz sets give out. Pioneer was the best and even now that they are out of the game they are still the best.
Sigh, I'm going to be sad the day my Pioneer dies. I'm super paranoid about having it on a lot because of the sheer instability of plasmas. I hate the idea of having to replace it with another brand...lets hope those OLED's hit the market sooner, rather than later...
@ThisCharmingMan: I've had plasmas running 12 hours/day for 6 years atn work and they are fine. Don't know what instability you are referring to, but in my experience they have been solid.
@Sora57: From what I've researched, they generally do not last as long as LCD or rear projection televisions. I hope you're right, but the projected life span of a plasma set is usually between 30,000 and 40,000 hours, warranting the reading I did was true....
@ThisCharmingMan: No, modern sets generally claimed 60,000 hours, and that's only a half-life number, when the television reaches half brightness. 60,000 is comparable to the estimated CCFL backlight life in LCDs.
Enjoy your TV, don't waste your enjoyment worrying that you're ticking off those precious hours.
Saw some at Costco a few days ago and was so sorely tempted. $600 less than I'd seen at other big box stores. Still, quite happy with my Panny plasma though so I can't complain really.
@Xeno: They have gotten some tech from Pioneer, and I think they are even getting some of the engineers from Pioneer. I don't know how inclusive their deals with Pioneer are, though.
@dry-roasted-peanuts: I guess not, but I'm watching blu-ray, as most people who are willing to drop the extra bills on a Pioneer are most likely doing.
I kept trying to get my dad (who hasn't decided on a new tv now for three years) to get a Pioneer. He can't decide between Panasonic Plasma and a Sony Bravia. He can and only will get a discount on both so those are his choices. If Pioneer is gone, that means Panasonic the next best thing. Just that I associate their name with dollar store batteries and a terrible product from back then.
tempted for sure to buy... unfortunately anything pushing 1080p is worthless to me because my cable provider caps out at 720p and i don't have a blu-ray player yet so it's kinda useless for me...
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First thing I though was you NEVER put on of these on the side, they are not engineered to handle 120+ Lbs on the plastic side of it. The Frikking base is at the BASE....
So I though maybe it's OK and the box does not say...
NOPE. Sure enough the arrow is on the upper left of the box.
I bet when they stack them, they lay them flat to save space. (another NO-NO).
Idiots, just plain idiots....
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Probably not too bad on the side; sure it's 120+ lbs., but the plastic is nicely ensconced in foam, so the lbs./in.^2 won't be too bad. Shipping them that way probably gets bad though.
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Enjoy your TV, don't waste your enjoyment worrying that you're ticking off those precious hours.
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Long live Vizio, Westinghouse and LG, I guess.
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Aquos, ToC, and XBR, all the way, baby!
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2. Another 1 sentence article? Now for some reason I'm scared.
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Stop fucking with us Wilson! My brain can take no more.
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