@zmjjmz: I can't imagine you wouldn't. All the readers I've seen allow you to do that these days. Sony didn't let you do that but they fixed that ages ago. Some people believe you can't with the Kindle but it acts just like a removable drive when you hook up with USB. They just give you the option of wireless transfer, too (for a fee). #barnesandnoblesreader
@zakharm: PDF on a small screen is just painful on any device unless it's mostly text. The DX is better for that but the feature set of the PDF viewer isn't quite there for my taste. #barnesandnoblesreader
Nook is going to be seen not as sourced from "[search in every] nook and cranny" but from "not a book". Stupid name really.
And $259 is still too expensive. I don't care about carrying 100 novels around at once because I'm only going to read one book at a time for pleasure. I don't search the books I read for pleasure, nor do I want to be restricted by DRM. I can stop off at a bookstore on my way home from work and be in-and-out with whatever just came out in 5 minutes, including parking.
@blash: Obviously you wouldn't. There are plenty of people who will, though. If a product had to appeal to everyone to justify its existence, there wouldn't be much in the shops. It was worth it to me. I like the convenience. Money isn't always the deciding factor in my decisions. I do read more than one book at a time. I do search my books, and my other documents I have loaded. I like the 24/7 instant delivery even when I'm out of the house.
It did end up saving me money, though. I was surprised. The thing is, I no longer buy books I don't end up liking enough to finish because I get free sample chapters of them before I choose to buy. I used to buy 5 or 10 books at a time just so I wouldn't run out. I'd end up not liking at least 20-30% of them. Wasted money. If you buy a lot of hardbacks as I did, it doesn't take too many clunkers to make it worthwhile. #barnesandnoblesreader
This E-ink + touchscreen LCD combination is not user friendly. I want to select and highlight text, collaborate on text and select words and things directly. That backlit color touchscreen is going to be distracting.
Ive been wanting to buy my wife a nice e-reader but most so have been terrible or cost too much to really be worth it. Hopefully they can nail the pricepoint on this one.
@grimdeath9740: I'm thinking another 2 years before we see a $99 reader, the e-ink technology is what's keeping the price up. $150 by the end of next year is my guess, based on current trend. With these rumored specs, the B&N reader will likely be in the $250-300 range.
@Eric C. Tucker: e-Ink tech is not keeping the price up. Greedy multi-nationals who feel that any new technology, no matter how cheap it is to produce, should be charged to the consumer at a stiff premium, are.
I was actually (at one point) a relatively close associate with one of the members of the MIT team that invented electronic ink. One of the things he kept going on about during the development process, was that the materials needed to make e-ink displays were not only already plentiful in nigh limitless supply, but were already being used worldwide for the construction of other products that hundreds of millions of people the world over use every day.
To put it in the description that was given to me by several members of the e-ink team, most of the build materials for e-ink cost pennies on the dollar, making e-ink cheap enough to manufacture, that people will be able to wallpaper their homes with the stuff.
Of course all that as a year (or two) before the big multinationals like the Sony Corporation, swooped in with their funding, and subsequent jacking up of the price to license e-ink technology. So much for the e-ink wallpaper I was dreaming of getting.
Interestingly, the e-ink display in a device like Amazon's Kindle, is fundamentally the same e-ink display prototype that I was shown several years ago with very few changes judging by what I can tell.
Anyway, I just thought you should know, e-ink is almost as cheap as regular paper - which was partially the reason for all the excitement for the tech in the first place. So if you are forced into paying an arm and a leg for your next e-ink device, don't blame the tech for the markup, blame all the multinationals who think that anything new should automatically be marked up for the sake of marking it up.
Sorry, I'm not a fan. Yes, this thing looks great, and it's an awesome concept, but how are you supposed to make handwritten notes? I bet annotations are handled from the color LCD, but that will only slow down my reading, and even worse, eat up my battery life!
Ebooks ARE the future, but we've got a looong way to go before they can completely overtake the "user friendliness" of actual paper.
No need to be harsh! I "get" all the advantages of an eReader, but ArcticPrince has a point, too. The music comparison is completely invalid: You MUST have an external device to allow you to hear the music, so digital media PLUS an iPod is a clear advantage over CDs PLUS a CD player. But a book doesn't HAVE to have a separate reading device, so the individual reader must find the advantages of one extremely compelling to shell out so much money.
I'm a gadget geek, but for now, it doesn't even come close.
@nujii: I have a reader and the advantages to me have been:
1. I can have plenty of books with me and access to more when I want them all in the size of one small book. I'm usually reading more than one book at a time. I easily go through a book per day on vacation.
2. I can get more books immediately when I want them so I don't run out.
3. Because I have a Kindle, I get large free samples (a chapter or often more) downloaded to the device that I can read when I want. I don't buy books until I've read the sample. I used to buy a lot of books I didn't like enough to finish. This alone has paid for the Kindle. I didn't think the Kindle would save me money. I bought it for convenience. This was a surprise. (B&N has samples, too).
4. I have too many bookshelves. They're overloaded with books. I have no more room. I'm also allergic to dust. I can't touch most old books for long before I start sneezing.
this looks very tempting, although my Kindle probably isn't going to die any time soon. however, I will definitely go to a B&N to check the thing out in person--they will be doing that, right?
Color touchscreen for input sounds like a brilliant compromise, although battery stats are really important to me, so a deeply cut charge-to-charge life may be a deal breaker for me.
Big question: how's the PDF support?
And @kiranator et al, I'm right there with you. If you're not in the market for one of these things, please stop posting long rants about how nobody could possibly find a b & w ereader useful. Not interested? Fine--don't buy one! Very simple.
I love my Kindle, but this seems even awesomer than the hideous keyboard.
I also am amused that the sample text on the screen is from Ayn Rand's _The Fountainhead_. That, more than anything, makes it seem like the image has certainly passed through the hands of a nerd.
For those of you who just can't comprehend the use of an ereader... just shut up, okay? Fine, I get it, you're not part of the market segment. But a lot of people are. I can't conceive of paying $60 / month for cable TV, but not everyone is like me, eh? Every ebook related post or forum has around 10 - 15% of posts blathering that they just don't understand why *anyone* would buy one of these. Clearly enough people are that it's considered at least a niche gadget by manufacturers, and these days producing the digital format is so easy that there's practically no reason for publishers NOT to offer one. So stop lowering my signal-to-noise ratio, eh?
I like the mockups & the concept -- very interesting, indeed. The only thing I'm concerned about is the apparent splintering of the potential ebook market into many armed camps, none of whom will play well with one another. I want to see some kind of universal consensus reached on file formats, so a book purchased on one device can be read on another device -- I'd hate to see that GlobalBookMonger, Inc. had the only ebook version of a title I wanted, if I only had theInternationalBookHoarder, LLC, reader. Until that happens, I'm probably going to hold off on purchasing any flavor, no matter how attractive they are.
10/20/09
what?! who doesn't like gettin' a little nook? #barnesandnoblesreader
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And $259 is still too expensive. I don't care about carrying 100 novels around at once because I'm only going to read one book at a time for pleasure. I don't search the books I read for pleasure, nor do I want to be restricted by DRM. I can stop off at a bookstore on my way home from work and be in-and-out with whatever just came out in 5 minutes, including parking.
So why would I pay $259 for this? #barnesandnoblesreader
10/19/09
Just like film, in 10 years, you won't be able to buy a paper book. Obsolete. #barnesandnoblesreader
10/20/09
It did end up saving me money, though. I was surprised. The thing is, I no longer buy books I don't end up liking enough to finish because I get free sample chapters of them before I choose to buy. I used to buy 5 or 10 books at a time just so I wouldn't run out. I'd end up not liking at least 20-30% of them. Wasted money. If you buy a lot of hardbacks as I did, it doesn't take too many clunkers to make it worthwhile. #barnesandnoblesreader
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This E-ink + touchscreen LCD combination is not user friendly. I want to select and highlight text, collaborate on text and select words and things directly. That backlit color touchscreen is going to be distracting.
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I was actually (at one point) a relatively close associate with one of the members of the MIT team that invented electronic ink. One of the things he kept going on about during the development process, was that the materials needed to make e-ink displays were not only already plentiful in nigh limitless supply, but were already being used worldwide for the construction of other products that hundreds of millions of people the world over use every day.
To put it in the description that was given to me by several members of the e-ink team, most of the build materials for e-ink cost pennies on the dollar, making e-ink cheap enough to manufacture, that people will be able to wallpaper their homes with the stuff.
Of course all that as a year (or two) before the big multinationals like the Sony Corporation, swooped in with their funding, and subsequent jacking up of the price to license e-ink technology. So much for the e-ink wallpaper I was dreaming of getting.
Interestingly, the e-ink display in a device like Amazon's Kindle, is fundamentally the same e-ink display prototype that I was shown several years ago with very few changes judging by what I can tell.
Anyway, I just thought you should know, e-ink is almost as cheap as regular paper - which was partially the reason for all the excitement for the tech in the first place. So if you are forced into paying an arm and a leg for your next e-ink device, don't blame the tech for the markup, blame all the multinationals who think that anything new should automatically be marked up for the sake of marking it up.
10/14/09
Ebooks ARE the future, but we've got a looong way to go before they can completely overtake the "user friendliness" of actual paper.
10/14/09
I'm a gadget geek, but for now, it doesn't even come close.
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1. I can have plenty of books with me and access to more when I want them all in the size of one small book. I'm usually reading more than one book at a time. I easily go through a book per day on vacation.
2. I can get more books immediately when I want them so I don't run out.
3. Because I have a Kindle, I get large free samples (a chapter or often more) downloaded to the device that I can read when I want. I don't buy books until I've read the sample. I used to buy a lot of books I didn't like enough to finish. This alone has paid for the Kindle. I didn't think the Kindle would save me money. I bought it for convenience. This was a surprise. (B&N has samples, too).
4. I have too many bookshelves. They're overloaded with books. I have no more room. I'm also allergic to dust. I can't touch most old books for long before I start sneezing.
10/14/09
Color touchscreen for input sounds like a brilliant compromise, although battery stats are really important to me, so a deeply cut charge-to-charge life may be a deal breaker for me.
Big question: how's the PDF support?
And @kiranator et al, I'm right there with you. If you're not in the market for one of these things, please stop posting long rants about how nobody could possibly find a b & w ereader useful. Not interested? Fine--don't buy one! Very simple.
10/14/09
I also am amused that the sample text on the screen is from Ayn Rand's _The Fountainhead_. That, more than anything, makes it seem like the image has certainly passed through the hands of a nerd.
For those of you who just can't comprehend the use of an ereader... just shut up, okay? Fine, I get it, you're not part of the market segment. But a lot of people are. I can't conceive of paying $60 / month for cable TV, but not everyone is like me, eh? Every ebook related post or forum has around 10 - 15% of posts blathering that they just don't understand why *anyone* would buy one of these. Clearly enough people are that it's considered at least a niche gadget by manufacturers, and these days producing the digital format is so easy that there's practically no reason for publishers NOT to offer one. So stop lowering my signal-to-noise ratio, eh?
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