@bagellord: Yeah a small town in a budget crunch, run by elected officials would rather voluntarily comply than face a court order. No surprises there.
Here's the real issue. Over free, public wifi networks, it's virtually impossible to find out who is committing the piracy. The MPAA is scared sh*tless that the trend towards public municipal networks like those proposed for big cities (New York, L.A., Las Vegas etc), some of which are currently under construction, will provide a safe haven for pirates, shielding them from any legal actions.
So we look at the MPAA's playbook. Find the most vunrable target and bring charges. Get a compromise ruling from a low level judge and build on the precident set by that case. This buys some time while they push for legislation requiring users of a public network to register to access the service, making them easier to ID.
Small town with only a few users... They have an ideal target there. The town officials decided to fall on this grenade for the rest of us. They'll comply with requests and back down from the fight, keeping it out of the courts for as long as they can. Rather than fight back through the courts, (where they may very well lose), they'll stall long enough to wage a PR war. Once the public is sufficiently outraged and the local jury pool influenced, their poised to win any legal battle. The MPAA will back down, declaring it a victory for themselves, but in reality, they won't get what they want. #wifi
@vlatro: Well said. The precedent this sets is frightening; a public, government entity has been coerced by a private organization into making decisions with public resources that are beneficial to said organization. #wifi
Meanwhile teabaggers and Becktard "conservatives" are crying about their fear of "big government".
While industry cabals and multinational corporations hire think analysts and consultants to find new and exciting ways to figuratively, if not literally rape every man, woman and child. And, as corrupt and inefficient as it can be, "big government" is the only thing that comes close to stopping them. And in this case, it seems to have failed.
What I don't understand is why the city would listen to the MPAA at all. What terrible precedent does this set? Who gave the MPAA this sort of power over government?
Furthermore. How does the MPAA actually know about the download? There is zero information concerning how the MPAA became aware of the download. #wifi
"The MPAA focuses most of its efforts on catching the source of the [pirated] movies." -- Heh, sure.
""We target piracy at its source," she [the VP of corporate communications for the MPAA] said. "We really focus on keeping the product out of the market in the first place."" -- I'll say.
"LaVigne has done some homework and found a program that would prevent the illegal downloads from happening in the future; however, it would cost the cash-strapped county about $2,900 to implement, $2,000 for equipment and then $900 annually for the filtering program." -- I'm sure that's a sacrifice the MPAA is more than willing for you to make.
Good read if you wanna see what everyone else outside our little tech circle is hearing. #wifi
@Varash:
@Kirkaiya:
@not_a_virus.exe.vbs:
The MPAA don't have the power to do this, likely they just bullied the administration into doing it. They don't have the ability to actually pull the plug though. If the town administration stood up to them and said no this wouldn't have happened. #wifi
@Odin: I was wondering if anyone else followed the links back. This seems like the MPAA notified the admin about the illegal download and the town shut the thing down. It said nothing about the MPAA filing suit or threatening the town in any way. Of course, it doesn't say the opposite either, and maybe the MPAA did threaten them, but for the reasons pointed out in many comments below, even a fresh-out-of-law-school lawyer is going to figure out that such a threat is a monumentally weak case.
As much as I like Boing Boing, and as much as I hate the MPAA, this strikes me as a very misleading article. #wifi
@AmphetamineCrown: All the letter says is to cease and desist immediately. Not that I would know... It's not like I have received a few... I just know a guy who knew a guy that did. #wifi
Killing the entire MPAA (and I guess I can throw in the RIAA too) sounds awfully fine right about now. Does anyone want to round them all up so I don't have to go chasing them? #wifi
@not_a_virus.exe.vbs: What you are missing are the facts that boingboing neglected to mention. The MPAA didn't actually shut the town's wi-fi down. The town chose to shut it down voluntarily after hearing from the MPAA. It is still a shitty situation, but the town probably wants to think things over and try to avoid further problems before they go "live" again.
We must not forget, as cool as he may be, Cory Doctorow (and boingboing) is prone to the most extreme hyperbole that the universe has ever witnessed, ever.#wifi
Aside from really wanting a super-router like the one in that photo, this article really makes my blood boil. How is that the MPAA (or RIAA, etc) can have legal authority to block access to so many people, based one person's illegal activity? If I were the townspeople, I'd try suing the MPAA - that would be a nice change!
And - worse - doesn't this just open the door to a new form of vandalism, where bored miscreants with laptops can drive around any town (or airport, whatever) with free WiFi, and *intentionally* download something, with the intent of pissing off the entire town.
In fact... I have a car. And a laptop. And those people over in Shelbyville really suck!
There's no jury in america that would provide a fair trial for even remote suspicion of this crime. It's the modern day equivalent of "witch burning". If someone wanted to set you up in a real crap - doing something like this would offer virtually no chance of proving "it wuzn't me, your honor". I read a story about some dude that got busted for having thumbnail images from some site he was re-directed to by malware. Got 5 years in jail, was looking at like 100+ years due to number of thumbnail images that web page left in his cache (I think each was 5 years)
@wesheflin88: Everyone has equal rights under the law. Even the morally reprehensible.
That even they receive protection from the law should provide you comfort in the knowledge that you too are guaranteed those protections.
Moreover, keeping the government honest and on their best behavior is what my mother devoted her life to. The government has the burden to prove the defendant's guilt and to do so within the confines of the law.
By defending those charged with crimes - even horrible crimes - a defense attorney seeks to ensure that those tasked with enforcing the law follow the law. When, and only when, a defendant's guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt within those bounds, we as a society can be reasonably certain that justice has been done, that the guilty will be punished, and that the dangerous elements of our society neutralized.
There is no moral nor practical benefit to taking short cuts with the law. It creates skepticism in the public, mistrust of the law, and fosters sloppiness in those who enforce and prosecute the people's interest. And when this happens, the innocent may be jailed while the guilty walk free.
By making the government meet its burden - especially when heinous crimes are involved - we can assure ourselves that our imperfect system is still the best of all those available.
@OMG! Ponies!: Ignoring the fact that any jury based system is incapable of true impartiality and that trial by media is still a large consideration in any trial of this type.
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Here's the real issue. Over free, public wifi networks, it's virtually impossible to find out who is committing the piracy. The MPAA is scared sh*tless that the trend towards public municipal networks like those proposed for big cities (New York, L.A., Las Vegas etc), some of which are currently under construction, will provide a safe haven for pirates, shielding them from any legal actions.
So we look at the MPAA's playbook. Find the most vunrable target and bring charges. Get a compromise ruling from a low level judge and build on the precident set by that case. This buys some time while they push for legislation requiring users of a public network to register to access the service, making them easier to ID.
Small town with only a few users... They have an ideal target there. The town officials decided to fall on this grenade for the rest of us. They'll comply with requests and back down from the fight, keeping it out of the courts for as long as they can. Rather than fight back through the courts, (where they may very well lose), they'll stall long enough to wage a PR war. Once the public is sufficiently outraged and the local jury pool influenced, their poised to win any legal battle. The MPAA will back down, declaring it a victory for themselves, but in reality, they won't get what they want. #wifi
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11/13/09
While industry cabals and multinational corporations hire think analysts and consultants to find new and exciting ways to figuratively, if not literally rape every man, woman and child. And, as corrupt and inefficient as it can be, "big government" is the only thing that comes close to stopping them. And in this case, it seems to have failed.
What I don't understand is why the city would listen to the MPAA at all. What terrible precedent does this set? Who gave the MPAA this sort of power over government?
Furthermore. How does the MPAA actually know about the download? There is zero information concerning how the MPAA became aware of the download. #wifi
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"The MPAA focuses most of its efforts on catching the source of the [pirated] movies." -- Heh, sure.
""We target piracy at its source," she [the VP of corporate communications for the MPAA] said. "We really focus on keeping the product out of the market in the first place."" -- I'll say.
"LaVigne has done some homework and found a program that would prevent the illegal downloads from happening in the future; however, it would cost the cash-strapped county about $2,900 to implement, $2,000 for equipment and then $900 annually for the filtering program." -- I'm sure that's a sacrifice the MPAA is more than willing for you to make.
Good read if you wanna see what everyone else outside our little tech circle is hearing. #wifi
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@Kirkaiya:
@not_a_virus.exe.vbs:
The MPAA don't have the power to do this, likely they just bullied the administration into doing it. They don't have the ability to actually pull the plug though. If the town administration stood up to them and said no this wouldn't have happened. #wifi
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As much as I like Boing Boing, and as much as I hate the MPAA, this strikes me as a very misleading article. #wifi
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Unless he used a laptop with solar panels...
Alright everybody, time to shut down the sun. #wifi
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Read the article linked in the one on Boing... They got a letter telling them to stop sharing the movie and in response the owner shut it down.
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We must not forget, as cool as he may be, Cory Doctorow (and boingboing) is prone to the most extreme hyperbole that the universe has ever witnessed, ever. #wifi
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And - worse - doesn't this just open the door to a new form of vandalism, where bored miscreants with laptops can drive around any town (or airport, whatever) with free WiFi, and *intentionally* download something, with the intent of pissing off the entire town.
In fact... I have a car. And a laptop. And those people over in Shelbyville really suck!
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Even better,
People around the states should start downloading stuff in wireless networks around MPAA and RIAA people.
Make the downloads extra nasty in content to sic cops on them too! #wifi
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It was a Hannah Montana movie! #wifi
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Don't put illegal crap on or in anything you hand over as collateral.
Really it's that simple.
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[en.wikipedia.org]
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A+ for you good sir. Enjoy defending pedophiles.
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That even they receive protection from the law should provide you comfort in the knowledge that you too are guaranteed those protections.
Moreover, keeping the government honest and on their best behavior is what my mother devoted her life to. The government has the burden to prove the defendant's guilt and to do so within the confines of the law.
By defending those charged with crimes - even horrible crimes - a defense attorney seeks to ensure that those tasked with enforcing the law follow the law. When, and only when, a defendant's guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt within those bounds, we as a society can be reasonably certain that justice has been done, that the guilty will be punished, and that the dangerous elements of our society neutralized.
There is no moral nor practical benefit to taking short cuts with the law. It creates skepticism in the public, mistrust of the law, and fosters sloppiness in those who enforce and prosecute the people's interest. And when this happens, the innocent may be jailed while the guilty walk free.
By making the government meet its burden - especially when heinous crimes are involved - we can assure ourselves that our imperfect system is still the best of all those available.
The defense attorneys watch the watchers.
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