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"LG's also joined forces with the Korean SkyLife...aiming to...do for 3D TV what Sony did for Blu-ray."
....You mean make it a marginal standard that only high-end enthusiasts will truly care about for a small percentage of their collection? A standard that will never actually replace the previous model that it intended to displace? A standard that may, admittedly, live on for a long time but only at a percentage of the grandeur it had hoped to achieve?
On one hand, it's a complete gimmick that they're really pushing on the consumer. It's OLD technology put into your living room for a Premium price. You still have to wear glasses, plus, you need to completely upgrade your media collection to get the 3D effect. It doesn't enhance the experience enough to justify the use; in fact, I think it would be harder to get into a movie when you're conscious of the screen.
On the other hand. This gimmicky bullsh*t is the stuff that drives cost down for basic models. You look at a lot of these high-end TVs, now, they all share the same panels as the lower/cheaper models, but they have all this stupid stuff built in that doesn't justify the extra cost. For example, Widgets, streaming media, ethernet connectivity, maybe different case styling, now it's going to be 3D.
When I buy a TV, I'm only looking for a 50" Monitor, I have a Mediacenter with all that stuff and tuners, etc. So I end up getting a great panel at a cheap price by opting not to go with all that BS.
I don't think its really a question of who's buying, I'm assuming a lot of the higher-end 240Hz HDTV sets are going to be "3D-ready".
As the technology becomes ubiquitous. A lot of people that buy these sets probably won't be seeking the feature out, but rather it will feature that happened to came with the higher-end HDTV set they purchased.
@Scaramanga: I'm not totally sure that most or even many of the current 240Hz HDTVs are 3D-ready. As I understand, most of them simply accept a 24-60Hz signal and then interpolate for the extra frames. They can't actually handle 120Hz of input, which is what you need for 3D to work.
This info might be a little stale though, since I gathered it when idly pricing out potential 3D displays a few months back for PC gaming.
Not all 240Hz TVs can accept 3D signals, but in the future it most likely will.
A 3D standard is actually built into HDMI 1.4 specifications.
So in the future all displays that have HDMI will accept 3D, and I'm assuming several years down the line that all displays will have some level of 3D functionality built into them.
Whether people use it or not is an entirely different issue.
I picked up a 40" Sony Bravia S-series for $598, and I love it. There is a slight trail but hardly noticeable, you have to really try to look for it. I was surprised because this was suppose to be the chief complaint about the TV. It is offers great video and audio customization in the built in Menu system. The contrast is only 30,000:1 but after playing with settings is better then I had anticipated. This TV is bright, with the backlight cranked up you could watch this outside on a sunny day (no joke). The sound quality on this TV is without equal in its price range. I have an older model Sony amp and so I run all my audio into TV out into the Amp. (Another Sony bonus, tons of input ports). I probably could have spent an additional few hundred for a new 7.1 sound system, but like I said the quality now is already great. So Sony has its ups and downs, but if you are looking for a beautiful TV to pair with your PS3 and don't have an entire grand to slap down - the Bravia is a good bet.
I was an Eastman Kodak employee from 1980 to 1999. It's been sad to see this once mighty company implode.
For those not in Rochester, EK is headquartered there. EK's employment in Rochester peak in 1983 with about 68,500 people. It now has less than 8,000 there.
IMHO, EK's downfall is the result of denial. EK demonstrated the first digital camera concept, built the first DSLR for the US military and NASA, and designed the Apple QuickTake 100, the first consumer digital camera. Unfortunately, senior management in the 90's adamently denied that digital photography was going to overtake film as quickly as it did. I remember being told that it would be about 2010 before digital would overtake film.
In the 90's, they brought in George Fisher, their first and still only outside CEO. George came over from Motorola, in a time when Motorola ruled the cellphone industry. Unfortunately, George's efforts to quickly turn the 100+ year old behemoth was, IMHO, sabotaged from within. His division managers kept their heads in the sand and denied that EK needed to change quickly.
I had high hopes that EK would be able to use OLED to recover -- or at least stabilize -- but that's now impossible. Someday soon, I completely expect to read that Kodak is being bought-up by an investment group and liquidated piece-by-piece.
Can anyone think of any other company which has suck so far so quickly?
@Dacker: When I was at Kodak I always felt like the good 'ol boy network got in the way. A lot of the higher ups were just trying to scratch each other's back and this discouraged risk taking. My bosses were mostly thinking about how much they could make now instead of 10 years down the road.
@fuzz54: I have no doubt that the "good 'ol boy" network contributed to EK's situation. EK has been a very insular company with a massive political machine inside.
Given the approximate time you were there, I'd bet there was a lot of pressure to cater to Wall Street's myopic, "make this quarter look good" mentality and not the long term survival of the company. It's unfortunate that this is much too common.
On that, I have to admire the Japanese mentality of driving toward 5-, 10-, or even 20-year goals rather than just this quarter's or this year's results.
What a sad development! There are many negatives to this story, and few positives. I thought they'd have a shot at recovery if they framed their business properly, but sadly they're just shuttering one branch of their company after another. It's easy to judge through the lens of hindsight, but they should have been faster on digital. Now they're just alone in a dark room, overexposed to debt and waiting to be hung out to dry. #puncraft
10:59 AM
....You mean make it a marginal standard that only high-end enthusiasts will truly care about for a small percentage of their collection? A standard that will never actually replace the previous model that it intended to displace? A standard that may, admittedly, live on for a long time but only at a percentage of the grandeur it had hoped to achieve?
Awesome. That's exactly what I want from 3DTV.
10:58 AM
On one hand, it's a complete gimmick that they're really pushing on the consumer. It's OLD technology put into your living room for a Premium price. You still have to wear glasses, plus, you need to completely upgrade your media collection to get the 3D effect. It doesn't enhance the experience enough to justify the use; in fact, I think it would be harder to get into a movie when you're conscious of the screen.
On the other hand. This gimmicky bullsh*t is the stuff that drives cost down for basic models. You look at a lot of these high-end TVs, now, they all share the same panels as the lower/cheaper models, but they have all this stupid stuff built in that doesn't justify the extra cost. For example, Widgets, streaming media, ethernet connectivity, maybe different case styling, now it's going to be 3D.
When I buy a TV, I'm only looking for a 50" Monitor, I have a Mediacenter with all that stuff and tuners, etc. So I end up getting a great panel at a cheap price by opting not to go with all that BS.
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As the technology becomes ubiquitous. A lot of people that buy these sets probably won't be seeking the feature out, but rather it will feature that happened to came with the higher-end HDTV set they purchased.
08:31 AM
This info might be a little stale though, since I gathered it when idly pricing out potential 3D displays a few months back for PC gaming.
10:14 AM
Not all 240Hz TVs can accept 3D signals, but in the future it most likely will.
A 3D standard is actually built into HDMI 1.4 specifications.
So in the future all displays that have HDMI will accept 3D, and I'm assuming several years down the line that all displays will have some level of 3D functionality built into them.
Whether people use it or not is an entirely different issue.
[www.hdmi.org]
12/05/09
12/04/09
At least, that was what they were telling the troops (me included) when I worked for them.
12/04/09
For those not in Rochester, EK is headquartered there. EK's employment in Rochester peak in 1983 with about 68,500 people. It now has less than 8,000 there.
IMHO, EK's downfall is the result of denial. EK demonstrated the first digital camera concept, built the first DSLR for the US military and NASA, and designed the Apple QuickTake 100, the first consumer digital camera. Unfortunately, senior management in the 90's adamently denied that digital photography was going to overtake film as quickly as it did. I remember being told that it would be about 2010 before digital would overtake film.
In the 90's, they brought in George Fisher, their first and still only outside CEO. George came over from Motorola, in a time when Motorola ruled the cellphone industry. Unfortunately, George's efforts to quickly turn the 100+ year old behemoth was, IMHO, sabotaged from within. His division managers kept their heads in the sand and denied that EK needed to change quickly.
I had high hopes that EK would be able to use OLED to recover -- or at least stabilize -- but that's now impossible. Someday soon, I completely expect to read that Kodak is being bought-up by an investment group and liquidated piece-by-piece.
Can anyone think of any other company which has suck so far so quickly?
12/04/09
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Given the approximate time you were there, I'd bet there was a lot of pressure to cater to Wall Street's myopic, "make this quarter look good" mentality and not the long term survival of the company. It's unfortunate that this is much too common.
On that, I have to admire the Japanese mentality of driving toward 5-, 10-, or even 20-year goals rather than just this quarter's or this year's results.
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12/03/09
"She will never know the deliciousness of an almond or walnut."
Edit: Oh James Lipton...
I don't know why I needed a google to refresh my memory but it did. The Actors Studio guy.
Looking at his wiki entry I see we went to the same high school. Just not in the same city or state.
12/03/09
12/03/09
The joke being I'm sure there is a "Central High School" in almost state if not one in almost every city in every state.
12/03/09
*shudder*
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That's about 2 digit's from being a serial number.
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#tips