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While I believe, like others, that this is another losing touchscreen phone, my reasoning goes beyond "detachable keyboards get lost"... as it has been pointed out by myself, and others, if you're stupid enough to lose the keyboard, then you're probably the kind of dumbshit that loses everything, so you're pretty much fucked all around.
From my experience with LG phones, and Verizon, and from what I've seen on offer.... this look slike another attempt at a stylish, sexy package, but mostly empty. Verizon has a nasty habit of gimping their non-smart phones as a way to push people toward the more expensive data plans.
These non-smart phones sell to a lower-tier crowd who want style but don't need (much) substance. The EVDO is essentially garbage, and not much of a selling point. The browsing capabilitie sof Verizon phones leaves everything to be desired, from UI to speed and viewability. I would be extremely surprised (but pleased) to see LG offer anything radically different in this phone. It looks be a slightly grownup cousin to the ENV and Voyager (where the ENV2 was a massive failure, even compared to the failure that was the Voyager). There is also the matter of LGs touchscreen technology being somewhat wonky and unintuitive, in terms of amount of pressure and movement required to perform tasks.
If this phone is more than $150 after rebates, etc, then it's far too much, because Verizon gives precious little, in terms of flexibility to phone manufacturers in terms of UI/OS capability, and virtually everything is stripped away until it does very little.
@BeautifulAgony: I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. I work in a store that sells Verizon Wireless phones and when the Voyager and env2 phones came out they sold FAST. Failure of a phone? I think not.
They sell fast, but the env2 is garbage compared to the env (the env2 is missing several features of the env, and is more cramped, has less front screen real-estate, and worse bettery life) and the env itself is barely capable of anything except texting and snapping half-decent images.
The Voyager is a waste of tech, the touchscreen lets you navigate a menu that offers NOTHING... the phone has no features that are unique to it (it's virtually the same phone as the env, except for the stretched out front touchscreen, which users generally agree is a crappy touchscreen. The lock feature doesn't work because in a pocket or purse, random contact against the fabric can unlock it, and cause it to randomly dial or activate features. The Voyager also suffers from UI bugs relating to memory cards, and numerous other UI errors stemming from the kludgy addition of a wonky touchscreen.
These phones have sold fast, like any other device promoted by rabid salespeople and glitzy commercials to non-technical people, but they don't have a long product life because they have nothing long-term going for them. The customer reviews and general consensus is that these phones are nothing special. Of the three of them, the Env is the most solid choice. It has the most features, it's the most durable, and has the least quirks.
Fast sales, even high sales, don't mean a product is good.
01/23/09
From my experience with LG phones, and Verizon, and from what I've seen on offer.... this look slike another attempt at a stylish, sexy package, but mostly empty. Verizon has a nasty habit of gimping their non-smart phones as a way to push people toward the more expensive data plans.
These non-smart phones sell to a lower-tier crowd who want style but don't need (much) substance. The EVDO is essentially garbage, and not much of a selling point. The browsing capabilitie sof Verizon phones leaves everything to be desired, from UI to speed and viewability. I would be extremely surprised (but pleased) to see LG offer anything radically different in this phone. It looks be a slightly grownup cousin to the ENV and Voyager (where the ENV2 was a massive failure, even compared to the failure that was the Voyager). There is also the matter of LGs touchscreen technology being somewhat wonky and unintuitive, in terms of amount of pressure and movement required to perform tasks.
If this phone is more than $150 after rebates, etc, then it's far too much, because Verizon gives precious little, in terms of flexibility to phone manufacturers in terms of UI/OS capability, and virtually everything is stripped away until it does very little.
01/23/09
01/23/09
I have owned a Voyager, Env, and an Env2.
They sell fast, but the env2 is garbage compared to the env (the env2 is missing several features of the env, and is more cramped, has less front screen real-estate, and worse bettery life) and the env itself is barely capable of anything except texting and snapping half-decent images.
The Voyager is a waste of tech, the touchscreen lets you navigate a menu that offers NOTHING... the phone has no features that are unique to it (it's virtually the same phone as the env, except for the stretched out front touchscreen, which users generally agree is a crappy touchscreen. The lock feature doesn't work because in a pocket or purse, random contact against the fabric can unlock it, and cause it to randomly dial or activate features. The Voyager also suffers from UI bugs relating to memory cards, and numerous other UI errors stemming from the kludgy addition of a wonky touchscreen.
These phones have sold fast, like any other device promoted by rabid salespeople and glitzy commercials to non-technical people, but they don't have a long product life because they have nothing long-term going for them. The customer reviews and general consensus is that these phones are nothing special. Of the three of them, the Env is the most solid choice. It has the most features, it's the most durable, and has the least quirks.
Fast sales, even high sales, don't mean a product is good.
01/23/09
Also, replace the word "detachable" with "LOSABLE".
01/23/09
Your "detachable = losable" idea is moronic.
01/23/09
01/23/09
You will remember that LG was doing consumer oriented touchscreen phones before apple.
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01/23/09
A pen?
A fat stylus?
Mr. Microphone?
01/23/09