Are all my left handed brothers really that useless? There's nothing mechanical about a remote. If these were scissors, or a pencil, I'd understand. But pushing buttons with my right hand comes just as easy as doing it with my left.
Not only is it missing the basic functionality of real, find-by-feel buttons, but the overall shape is all wrong too. This design is clearly meant to either (A) sit on a table during access or (B) be held by both hands. Ridiculous.
Give me a regularly-shaped remote designed to be held/used in a single hand with real buttons, then let's talk about universality.
@Stikman008: and the gas mileage makes me the envy of the neighborhood. all the kids come chasing me down the street when i come home. but that's mainly cause i need a push to get up the hill i live on.
Call me crazy, but I almost prefer a pile of remotes to my Harmony One. It's a good universal, but I STILL have to occasionally go hunting for buttons deep in on screen menus.
It's a no win situation. Well, until someone releases a remote that functions on thought.
@Aloof: "Call me crazy, but I almost prefer a pile of remotes..."
If you are crazy, then I'm crazy too. I've had a couple of the Harmony Universal Remotes bookmarked in my Amazon "wish list" for at least a couple of years now. And every time I see them in that listing, I go, "Wow, today's the day I should buy one." And then I pause and think, "But...why? I'm more than perfectly happy having a few individual, dedicated remotes sitting on my coffee table, each of which I've long ago memorized the buttons I use."
@Aloof: you're not crazy man. i only got one after i put in the surround sound. the cable box remote didn't control the volume on the receiver and a remote for volume and one for the channels annoyed me to no end. i do, however, keep the pile of remotes on the end table for those random buttons.
@Aloof: You're crazy. Even a cheap Harmony will replace all of your remotes for 99% of your actual home theater usage. Even my wife can control everything without having to ask "How do I get back to the satellite box from here?" When you want to get into the actual settings of a particular component THEN you drag out that component's individual remote for ease of control (if you must.)
@Aloof: It always seems like I always need the one button that's not shown. Like some surround levels button, or a input button...
It's not BAD and obviously I'm still using it, but I'm occasionally frustrated. It's usually when I'm trying to do something wacky like listen to a sports game (being plumbed into the stereo from the cable box) while playing WoW on the TV. Something that I don't have an activity set up for.
@aquaosx: Maybe I am misunderstanding, but this review said the concept of a touchscreen does not really work for a remote - so, how does using an iPhone fix that problem? Or maybe you are just saying that all touchscreen remote controls will be dead, however one could argue that they already are.
Why is it impossible for them to release one of these remotes at a reasonable price! Guess I'll have to wait a few months and then start sniffing out the refurb bin :(
I really need to get a harmony remote (no way in hell I am springing for this one...), but I haven't been able to find any guides as to the features that each of the models comes with, even the feature guides on Logitech's website are annoyingly vague.
I'm thinking I'll probably be find with the ~$100 one, but it pisses me off that I can't find definitive feature guides...
@bpapa9013: I had the 1000 and I sold it to get the One. The 1000 was horribly slow and if you're left handed then its worthless. The benefit was that it had a cool customizable (sorta) screen.
The One is perfect. Its totally awesome and I absolutely love it. Its also half the price of this thing.
Touchscreens are the next fad. Just like White on every gadget.
Doesn't matter if it fits the application, it must be cool if Apple did.
Why on earth would you want to sit in a dimly lit living room look at your TV, look down at your remote, look at your TV, repeat ad naseum. Some things just need to be tactile and have real buttons on them.
I still can't get over how anyone actually prefers a touchscreen phone, now a remote, ugh.
You can't get over how anyone actually prefers a touch screen phone, really? I understand your argument for a touch screen TV remote, but on a phone you have to look down at the screen anyway. It seems much more practical and user-friendly to simply touch an item that you want to open rather than using some navigation button to get to that item and having to hit a select button to open. And there isn't a single touch screen phone that relies entirely on the touch screen for input. For example, on the iPhone the home button can be used to control music (also the mic button on headset). You also have physical volume/mute controls.
As far as the remote goes, touch screen remotes have been around much longer than touch screen phones, so not sure what you meant by "now a remote, ugh." Besides this remote DOES have tactile buttons for repetitive and navigation tasks, so you don't have to look down at it all the time.
@justinpe: The touchscreen keyboard is the problem. I have watched people who type faster on a touchscreen keyboard rather than a physical one, and the only conclusion I could make was that they are the slowest people on the planet at typing. People with BlackBerry's (the physical keyboard models) can pump out emails nearly as fast as a regular keyboard, but iPhone and Storm folks fight the device to get anywhere.
I do think the market spends too much time following what Apple is doing and ignoring their mistakes. The virtual keyboard is dumb. Black is dumb (duh - we did it before, folks). Software products that do not support basic customization is dumb. (Really, I can't allow some sites to have pop-ups in Safari, but block all others? Who wrote this thing?) ...
I really need to go get myself a cup of coffee. I am cranky.
Basic problem with all is power toggle vs. dedicated power on/off for devices. As soon as you attempt to loop your DVD player or cable box into system you are hosed.
Just press "Watch DVD" you say? Well what if dvd player was used to front-load a dvd...which means dvd player is ON. This means when you hit "Play DVD" it will turn the DVD player off rather than on.
Same problem exists with other device types too...not just dvd and cable box. When remote sends a signal to turn a device on/off...it better turn on or off or remote is in 'wrong' state.
Same thing goes for when your DVR is recording a scheduled program. It won't turn off and when you want to "Watch TV" again it may be done recording in which case a signal to turn on will actually turn device off.
I went thru this with my wife and mom (creating task lists and triage charts) in addition to a fully programmed Harmony remote...and in the end it was easier merely to describe to them input switching concept and using individual/dedicated device remotes.
My particular Harmony remote is an abomination ergonomics-wise too. It is near impossible to hold in a single hand and use fingers to control vol/ch and other functionality.
@mikeklein: The problem with these remotes is that for something so complex to work properly, there has to be some sort of closed loop feedback to the remote. For example, there's no way for your component to transmit the power state to your remote.
Best way to control all your device with one remote, Media Center PC (w/ IR Blaster).
I got a Harmony One for Christmas and I really like it so far. However, one thing that it has that this does not is that it is actually shaped like a remote control. This thing looks like it would be awkward as hell to actually use.
I won't be upgrading from my 880 until they release a Harmony that has Bluetooth (preferably similar in design to the Harmony One). Since the new "top of the line" doesn't have Bluetooth looks like that probably won't happen any time soon.
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Uh...they make left-handed pencils?
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Give me a regularly-shaped remote designed to be held/used in a single hand with real buttons, then let's talk about universality.
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It's a no win situation. Well, until someone releases a remote that functions on thought.
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If you are crazy, then I'm crazy too. I've had a couple of the Harmony Universal Remotes bookmarked in my Amazon "wish list" for at least a couple of years now. And every time I see them in that listing, I go, "Wow, today's the day I should buy one." And then I pause and think, "But...why? I'm more than perfectly happy having a few individual, dedicated remotes sitting on my coffee table, each of which I've long ago memorized the buttons I use."
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It's not BAD and obviously I'm still using it, but I'm occasionally frustrated. It's usually when I'm trying to do something wacky like listen to a sports game (being plumbed into the stereo from the cable box) while playing WoW on the TV. Something that I don't have an activity set up for.
Ah well, it could be worse, right?
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I want a remote that can access a channel guide and manage my DVR without having to display menus over whatever I'm watching.
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I'm thinking I'll probably be find with the ~$100 one, but it pisses me off that I can't find definitive feature guides...
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The One is perfect. Its totally awesome and I absolutely love it. Its also half the price of this thing.
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Doesn't matter if it fits the application, it must be cool if Apple did.
Why on earth would you want to sit in a dimly lit living room look at your TV, look down at your remote, look at your TV, repeat ad naseum. Some things just need to be tactile and have real buttons on them.
I still can't get over how anyone actually prefers a touchscreen phone, now a remote, ugh.
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You can't get over how anyone actually prefers a touch screen phone, really? I understand your argument for a touch screen TV remote, but on a phone you have to look down at the screen anyway. It seems much more practical and user-friendly to simply touch an item that you want to open rather than using some navigation button to get to that item and having to hit a select button to open. And there isn't a single touch screen phone that relies entirely on the touch screen for input. For example, on the iPhone the home button can be used to control music (also the mic button on headset). You also have physical volume/mute controls.
As far as the remote goes, touch screen remotes have been around much longer than touch screen phones, so not sure what you meant by "now a remote, ugh." Besides this remote DOES have tactile buttons for repetitive and navigation tasks, so you don't have to look down at it all the time.
Anything else you hate?
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I do think the market spends too much time following what Apple is doing and ignoring their mistakes. The virtual keyboard is dumb. Black is dumb (duh - we did it before, folks). Software products that do not support basic customization is dumb. (Really, I can't allow some sites to have pop-ups in Safari, but block all others? Who wrote this thing?) ...
I really need to go get myself a cup of coffee. I am cranky.
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Basic problem with all is power toggle vs. dedicated power on/off for devices. As soon as you attempt to loop your DVD player or cable box into system you are hosed.
Just press "Watch DVD" you say? Well what if dvd player was used to front-load a dvd...which means dvd player is ON. This means when you hit "Play DVD" it will turn the DVD player off rather than on.
Same problem exists with other device types too...not just dvd and cable box. When remote sends a signal to turn a device on/off...it better turn on or off or remote is in 'wrong' state.
Same thing goes for when your DVR is recording a scheduled program. It won't turn off and when you want to "Watch TV" again it may be done recording in which case a signal to turn on will actually turn device off.
I went thru this with my wife and mom (creating task lists and triage charts) in addition to a fully programmed Harmony remote...and in the end it was easier merely to describe to them input switching concept and using individual/dedicated device remotes.
My particular Harmony remote is an abomination ergonomics-wise too. It is near impossible to hold in a single hand and use fingers to control vol/ch and other functionality.
You fail Logitech.
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I told my gf: If you have any problems, hit the "Help" button and follow directions.
It's not logitech's fault that you consort with retards.
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Best way to control all your device with one remote, Media Center PC (w/ IR Blaster).
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