But will this also create grain flow in the metal?
Important airplane parts are usually made by forging the metal to increase strength. If this method only produced scattered crystal formations, then the parts it produces will be considerably weaker than forged metals.
Hey ho. All the Gizmodo weirdos who continually post "Eff incompetent NASA, private enterprise rules! Private enterprise forever". Well, I guess you've got some crow to suck on. Some amazing, electron-beam formed crow.
@Pope John Peeps II: Nobody ever said NASA hasn't produced amazing stuff. The point is NASA wastes a shit ton of money, and if that money had been used elsewhere we'd have even more, cooler stuff.
BTW, I don't think that looking at the amount of money NASA has received over it's lifespan, comparing that to the benefits received, and concluding that a shitload of money was spent for a few really cool advancements makes you a weirdo. If it does, Burt Rutan is a weirdo, and I'd love to be half as smart as Burt Rutan.
@cpthook: If you think that pure research, pure exploration based on sciences still being created can be limited to a certain budget and a certain schedule, you're grossly mistaken. Pure science needs waste and excess. There's no way to predict when building a new type of rocket engine will cost 200 million, and when it will cost 500. Unknown things can't be planned for, and no business out there will engage in a venture that fundamentally can't be planned for.
Certainly NASA has its faults and its inefficiencies, but nobody else will really do what they do. They're a necessary organization.
@cpthook: A Congressional Budget Office study found that every dollar spent by NASA returned 3-4 dollars to the US economy in technology transfer, depending on how you do the analysis. If concluding that a 200-300% return on investment is a bad deal makes you a weirdo then yes, you are a weirdo.
@Pope John Peeps II: Uh, seriously? So NASA then must have an unlimited budget since they couldn't possibly plan for how much a the new Ares V will cost, right?
Your assertion is obviously false, because thousands of businesses are founded every day on more or less "unknown things". Nobody really knew if people are going to buy a trip to space from Virgin when Branson paid tens of millions of dollars to build his space ship one. Nobody really knows if people will buy enough Tesla's to make any money, but investors continue pouring millions of dollars into it. Nobody really knows if anybody's going to buy their new Oxyclean detergent. This is exactly how business works. You can run polls and focus groups, conduct deep analysis, but in the end, nobody really knows, and yet private enterprise thrives.
If you're arguing that nobody else will go to Mars in the next 50 years, you're probably right. But, if you're arguing that nobody would have invented the fire retardant material, or the cordless drills, or the etc. etc. that NASA did, you're just plain wrong. All of the things we actually use and benefit from that came out of NASA would have been developed anyway, and wouldn't have to have been paid for with taxes.
Anyways, looking at this stuff closely doesn't make you an idiot or a weirdo, nor does it malign what NASA has accomplished. It merely begs the question of what could have been.
@cpthook: You know, it's one thing to say that my assertions are "false", but you then provide examples that are COMPLETELY WORTHLESS. Virgin, Tesla and Oxyclean (what?!) are ALL BASED ON EXISTING TECHNOLOGY.
What I'm pointing to is the fact that General Motors is not going to say "hey, let's build a car out of carbon fullerenes, based on a portable helium-fusion generator", and then go about creating it. No responsible business is, because the chance of them going bankrupt is far too high.
An organization like NASA can afford to fail. That's what it's built for.
@Pope John Peeps II: Of course! Every invention is based on existing technology! You think NASA pioneered rockets? The quick examples I listed were merely intended to show that private capital is often thrown at wildly speculative hopes and dreams, as well as highly useful everyday items.
No, GM is likely not going to say that, but IBM very well say "let's build this out of carbon fullerenes" because there might actually be a market for it, where there would be none for GM.
I find it comical that you're supporting NASA as an organization built to fail. I'd prefer an organization built to succeed, like every private business ever founded.
@frigg: Really? I'm pretty sure Burt Rutan did build his own spaceship, and did it for about $25 million. To compare, NASA's spent $150 Billion over the life of the space shuttle, which is about 1.3B per launch. Each launch of the Space Shuttel costs about $60 Million v. about 1/60 of that for SpaceShipOne.
@cpthook: I'm not bashing Spaceship One, it's freaking awesome, but they are two different technologies, and purposes. One is a train, the other is a mini cooper.
@Pope John Peeps II: If you think that forcing people to underwrite the things you value is civilized, you're grossly mistaken.
A bloated bureaucracy that sometimes advances scientific or engineering knowledge isn't necessary if people aren't willing to fund it from their own pockets.
And just to head off the inevitable replies: yes, that also applies to the military, and the FCC, and the Department of Education, and every other coercive institution you can name.
@gibson042: My point is that people AREN'T willing to fund it from their own pockets. Businesses should not and do not form business models based on non-existent technologies, from a market point of view. They form companies based on proven science that has a demonstrable return.
Also, not understanding that the Government of your people IS in fact, your own pockets, makes you an idiot. And I don't want to talk to you anymore.
@cpthook: I find it comical that you're supporting NASA as an organization built to fail. I'd prefer an organization built to succeed, like every private business ever founded.
Obviously you haven't really understood a single thing I've written. Or even bothered to try. So I'm done with this conversation. I'll talk to you again somewhere around never o'clock, sweetheart.
So, can the laser be mounted on a computer who is then programmed to build a new, more efficient laser computer building laser computer?
Now that's a dystopian future I could really get behind. :3
Clearly is article has to be fake, because everyone knows that NASA never produces anything useful, and only exists to waste money.
/bitter, bitter sarcasm
Once again, the usefulness of putting many brilliant people together and telling them to solve huge problems is demonstrated. I also expect 3D printing to take some huge steps forward in the near future.
@fullyrandomtandem: I have often wondered where they get those itty bitty hard drives from. They must have bought up the whole supply back before everyone stopped making hard drives that small. Why can't we get a 1TB PS3?
I've bought the PS1, the PS2 twice, but not the PS3. The price is the only reason. There's a half dozen exclusive games for it that I really want to play, but Sony has their head up their ass.
Cut the price! And double your installed base this xmas guys! I promise*
*promise is not legally binding nor informed in anyway. Promisee may or may not receive the promise as indicated above. Please do not put in mouth. This product contains mercury and may damage the eyes.
You're saying that the actual cost to Sony at launch in late 2006 was $800? Yet I bought my original 60GB PS3 at launch for $600 through Amazon?
Now I can see how Blu-ray (i.e., Sony) so craftily out-maneuvered the HD-DVD camp; they just took massive short-term losses to ensnare us all in the long-term. I wonder if they are yet even breaking even in the technology.
@anexanhume aka Flintheart Glomgold: that's what makes me think that they're gonna hold the price drop for a while and make up for the losses... I'll keep waiting :)
@Joaquin: They can't keep waiting. PS3 sales (and even Wii sales) are starting to flat line, while Xbox 360 sales grew over the same period last year. It's time for a price cut.
@anexanhume aka Flintheart Glomgold: A price cut might help...or, just put back in the full PS2 compatibility they "strategically" (read: stupidly) removed way back. I am so glad I have the original 60GB model.
@bosskev: A patent surfaced last month (that was filed a year or so prior) for emulation of the Emotion Engine. I'd say they are working on it, it just is a bit off. However, with a ten year life cycle, it should be no trouble, right?
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Important airplane parts are usually made by forging the metal to increase strength. If this method only produced scattered crystal formations, then the parts it produces will be considerably weaker than forged metals.
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BTW, I don't think that looking at the amount of money NASA has received over it's lifespan, comparing that to the benefits received, and concluding that a shitload of money was spent for a few really cool advancements makes you a weirdo. If it does, Burt Rutan is a weirdo, and I'd love to be half as smart as Burt Rutan.
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Certainly NASA has its faults and its inefficiencies, but nobody else will really do what they do. They're a necessary organization.
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Your assertion is obviously false, because thousands of businesses are founded every day on more or less "unknown things". Nobody really knew if people are going to buy a trip to space from Virgin when Branson paid tens of millions of dollars to build his space ship one. Nobody really knows if people will buy enough Tesla's to make any money, but investors continue pouring millions of dollars into it. Nobody really knows if anybody's going to buy their new Oxyclean detergent. This is exactly how business works. You can run polls and focus groups, conduct deep analysis, but in the end, nobody really knows, and yet private enterprise thrives.
If you're arguing that nobody else will go to Mars in the next 50 years, you're probably right. But, if you're arguing that nobody would have invented the fire retardant material, or the cordless drills, or the etc. etc. that NASA did, you're just plain wrong. All of the things we actually use and benefit from that came out of NASA would have been developed anyway, and wouldn't have to have been paid for with taxes.
Anyways, looking at this stuff closely doesn't make you an idiot or a weirdo, nor does it malign what NASA has accomplished. It merely begs the question of what could have been.
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What I'm pointing to is the fact that General Motors is not going to say "hey, let's build a car out of carbon fullerenes, based on a portable helium-fusion generator", and then go about creating it. No responsible business is, because the chance of them going bankrupt is far too high.
An organization like NASA can afford to fail. That's what it's built for.
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No, GM is likely not going to say that, but IBM very well say "let's build this out of carbon fullerenes" because there might actually be a market for it, where there would be none for GM.
I find it comical that you're supporting NASA as an organization built to fail. I'd prefer an organization built to succeed, like every private business ever founded.
@frigg: Really? I'm pretty sure Burt Rutan did build his own spaceship, and did it for about $25 million. To compare, NASA's spent $150 Billion over the life of the space shuttle, which is about 1.3B per launch. Each launch of the Space Shuttel costs about $60 Million v. about 1/60 of that for SpaceShipOne.
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A bloated bureaucracy that sometimes advances scientific or engineering knowledge isn't necessary if people aren't willing to fund it from their own pockets.
And just to head off the inevitable replies: yes, that also applies to the military, and the FCC, and the Department of Education, and every other coercive institution you can name.
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Also, not understanding that the Government of your people IS in fact, your own pockets, makes you an idiot. And I don't want to talk to you anymore.
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Obviously you haven't really understood a single thing I've written. Or even bothered to try. So I'm done with this conversation. I'll talk to you again somewhere around never o'clock, sweetheart.
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Now that's a dystopian future I could really get behind. :3
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/bitter, bitter sarcasm
Once again, the usefulness of putting many brilliant people together and telling them to solve huge problems is demonstrated. I also expect 3D printing to take some huge steps forward in the near future.
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Cut the price! And double your installed base this xmas guys! I promise*
*promise is not legally binding nor informed in anyway. Promisee may or may not receive the promise as indicated above. Please do not put in mouth. This product contains mercury and may damage the eyes.
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Now I can see how Blu-ray (i.e., Sony) so craftily out-maneuvered the HD-DVD camp; they just took massive short-term losses to ensnare us all in the long-term. I wonder if they are yet even breaking even in the technology.
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