Interesting stats, but I would be truly interested in seeing a smart phone to compete with BlackBerry in the corporate marketplace. That is where the "real" money is, and as long as RIM is alone with the BES and BlackBerry devices, they will continue to grow in the market place creating some acceptable but hardly overwhelming products.
Apple, on the other hand, is going to have serious competition in the years ahead from Android.
In any case, it is neat to see the market shifting so dramatically in such a relatively short period of time. #smartphonemarketshare
@Monty: How is the "real" money in the corporate marketplace? there are over 100 million people in the US who are potential smartphone users. The potential number of device sales to corporate America can't be more than 20% of that. #smartphonemarketshare
@CraigJ: Well, okay - I exaggerated slightly. That said, the focus in the media and nearly every web site is the iPhone, which is still behind the BlackBerry in sales. It is not because the BlackBerry is a better device - it is because the corporate marketplace has no choice but to stick with it. I would love to see Apple release a corporate iPhone (and server for managing a fleet of iPhones), or an Android entry into the space - but it has not happened. So, as Apple is competing for the consumer marketplace where there are numerous competitors, RIM will continue to have their profit pouring in. Great for those lovely folks in Canada, but maybe not the greatest for innovation in the business world. #smartphonemarketshare
@Monty: What is holding corporate accounts away from iPhone? I could see it before exchange support and remote wipe, but what is the big draw to a blackberry over an iPhone for corporate use now? File editing? Is there decent office support on BB? #smartphonemarketshare
@Monty: IMO...( gulp! ..dont hit me!! ) WinMo phones could have done it ...I think they still have a small chance if they can manage to update their OS and do a little smart advertising ... If you ( not you per say) consider the fact that you can grab a phone with all the aplications needed with out having to shell out money for them...(like BB).... and just go.
My dissatisfaction with BB led me to use a Korean made WinMo phone and it's surprisingly good (for business aplications, and a few other things).... compared to RIM.... what nightmare they were. #smartphonemarketshare
@Justin Paulson: The reason the iPhone is not only not an option for corporate support but is now actively considered Abaddon in slick black is related to the following:
1. Apple made it seem their device locally encrypted information and never told anyone that it did not.
2. Apple lied to Exchange Servers saying it was locally encrypting the data when it was not.
(FYI: These two lies put corporations in litigation peril since they are held to confidentiality agreements and encryption standards, such as national HIPAA regulations. In other words - major problem.)
3. Apple released a patch that was an insignificant fix for problems that "fixed" this little white lie.
4. That "fix" that was not communicated broke all earlier iPhones from being able to connect to properly configured Exchange 2007 servers.
5. Tech departments from all over the world received countless trouble tickets saying their iPhones no longer worked and blamed it on the corporation, not their beloved company in Cupertino.
6. After getting the facts, companies everywhere started denying access to email data (for obvious reasons) to any iPhone devices, many setting it as company policy.
Oh, sure, there are other problems, too - like being able to control what functions of the iPhone are available to staff - being able to remotely destory the data (corporate necessity), being able to push out applications to each device, etc and so on.
I could go on, but you get the idea.. The iPhone is not a corporate device. Not yet, at least, and given the track record, probably not for a long time. #smartphonemarketshare
@Googlo: We have a few staff in our office that love WinMo devices. I do think that WinMo had an opportunity in the business world to compete with RIM, but right now Microsoft is virtually ignored. Unfortunate. #smartphonemarketshare
I'm kinda sick of seeing this article. It stinks with half truths. Gotta love how the apple loving blogs play it up. As the previous poster pointed out...THIRD QUARTER SALES!!! get it through your thick skulls people. This isnt worldwide market share. TBH if anything, it's not something to brag about.
SHOCKER NEWSFLASH!! Apple release a new version of their smash hit phone in the third quarter, and outsold RIM who didn't release any new devices. If anything, kudos to RIM for battling it out and managing to sell almost as many of their OLD MODEL phones in a quarter that apple released a hot upgrade.
Get some perspective people, Iphone is kewl, no doubt, and Apple is doing a good job selling units. But check the total units for a year, or heavy forbid look at the number of nokia units sold...reality check, Nokia ships what millions of units a month?
Again, not trying to steal anyone's glory, Iphones are kewl, but stop ridding pole so hard, it's not that serious
@helfrez: the flaw in your reasoning is when you replace RIM with Apple and vice versa.... the post is about world marketshare in Q3 of 2008...if in Q4 a new RIM coes out and sells more than Apple than that is also because of the introduction of a new model and only about Q4....
Considering how few different models (if capacity and color can even count as separate models) that Apple makes, it has pretty impressive numbers to say the least. Wouldn't matter if it was behind WM or not, since WM runs on a wide variety of phones, while OS X lite is pretty much like OS X for computers.
Apple could release an alarm clock that wakes you up by kicking you in the balls and people would still buy it. The iPhone having a high market share says nothing of its "importance".
@hooked-on-tronics: By importance they're saying they've raised the bar so now other companies have to up their game. Just think of what the Prius did to the auto industry.
@ILikeMacsWhatAboutIT: How did they raise the bar? By adding a touchscreen and a beer simulator? I admit that its gimmickness is enticing, but if we're talking smartphones then we should keep the emphasis on the phone aspect, not how many people bought it simply because of the big Apple logo.
"and has pushed Microsoft's ailing Windows Mobile platform off the medal platform into 4th place"
That "ailing platform" has actually gained market share YoY, and grew sales 40%, unlike Symbian's 12% drop.
Symbian is the "ailing platform" but no-one spends much time talking about it.
BTW, if you read here ( [wmpoweruser.com] ) you will see compared to Q2, WM grew sales 40% and gained 1.6 million extra users, VS ROM who only grew 8% and gain 0.5 million.
Millions MORE people are buying Windows Mobile devices every quarter, maybe the blogosphere needs to let up on the OS a bit.
@surur: Windows mobile is a piece of crap. It's got a niche for the exchange push stuff, but other than that it's horrible. My employer bought me a blackjack II and I hate everything about windows mobile. Hmm, I need to add more sunshine to my diet.
@takashimiike yes really: What I was just pointing out that it's number two. No real surprise here. I mean they've sold millions of those suckers. Maybe by the next rev it will finally reach number one.
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Apple, on the other hand, is going to have serious competition in the years ahead from Android.
In any case, it is neat to see the market shifting so dramatically in such a relatively short period of time. #smartphonemarketshare
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My dissatisfaction with BB led me to use a Korean made WinMo phone and it's surprisingly good (for business aplications, and a few other things).... compared to RIM.... what nightmare they were. #smartphonemarketshare
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1. Apple made it seem their device locally encrypted information and never told anyone that it did not.
2. Apple lied to Exchange Servers saying it was locally encrypting the data when it was not.
(FYI: These two lies put corporations in litigation peril since they are held to confidentiality agreements and encryption standards, such as national HIPAA regulations. In other words - major problem.)
3. Apple released a patch that was an insignificant fix for problems that "fixed" this little white lie.
4. That "fix" that was not communicated broke all earlier iPhones from being able to connect to properly configured Exchange 2007 servers.
5. Tech departments from all over the world received countless trouble tickets saying their iPhones no longer worked and blamed it on the corporation, not their beloved company in Cupertino.
6. After getting the facts, companies everywhere started denying access to email data (for obvious reasons) to any iPhone devices, many setting it as company policy.
Oh, sure, there are other problems, too - like being able to control what functions of the iPhone are available to staff - being able to remotely destory the data (corporate necessity), being able to push out applications to each device, etc and so on.
I could go on, but you get the idea.. The iPhone is not a corporate device. Not yet, at least, and given the track record, probably not for a long time. #smartphonemarketshare
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SHOCKER NEWSFLASH!! Apple release a new version of their smash hit phone in the third quarter, and outsold RIM who didn't release any new devices. If anything, kudos to RIM for battling it out and managing to sell almost as many of their OLD MODEL phones in a quarter that apple released a hot upgrade.
Get some perspective people, Iphone is kewl, no doubt, and Apple is doing a good job selling units. But check the total units for a year, or heavy forbid look at the number of nokia units sold...reality check, Nokia ships what millions of units a month?
Again, not trying to steal anyone's glory, Iphones are kewl, but stop ridding pole so hard, it's not that serious
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And I'm not just sayin that cause I love me some Koi.
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Then why say it leapfroged RIM if it's barely higher?
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That "ailing platform" has actually gained market share YoY, and grew sales 40%, unlike Symbian's 12% drop.
Symbian is the "ailing platform" but no-one spends much time talking about it.
BTW, if you read here ( [wmpoweruser.com] ) you will see compared to Q2, WM grew sales 40% and gained 1.6 million extra users, VS ROM who only grew 8% and gain 0.5 million.
Millions MORE people are buying Windows Mobile devices every quarter, maybe the blogosphere needs to let up on the OS a bit.
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