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What funny is, since when has an explosion ever "created" anything? Conventional knowledge says if you blow up a building it goes into millions of pieces... it doesn't make a more sophisticated building.
@grem28: Energy of several types. Inasmuch release == create. But we all know that matter can neither be created nor destroyed...except for the cage-match-battle-to-the-death that at matter -vs- antimatter.
@Bloodboiler: now is that truly backwards? or is it, in the instance of antimatter, forwards? and if that be the case wouldn't it be seeking it's own creation and exceeding that point and disappearing? or since in it's POV it is going forward it is traveling to it's demise?
@snakepliskin: Turns out religion and science work fine together, if you actually know what your religion says.
And science oddly enough fails to answer any questions pertaining to why the universe is here: not the mechanics, but the purpose. Nor should science ever pretend it can.
Anyway, I'm kinda sick of this whole atheistic hipster crap that's been everywhere. I'm tolerant of stuff I don't believe in, but atheists love pointing out stupid religious people.
You know which governments were anti-religion and enforced atheism? The fricking Axis. Communist China. Hitler loved science: testing human limits for torture, swimming in freezing water, etc. The examples of atheistic and simultaneously abusive governments is not a pretty picture. It turns out, when you don't think there's any reason for life, you don't have any respect for it: Science is not reason enough for decency. That logically makes sense to me when I assume no greater power or morals, so I'm glad atheists aren't all like this, but seriously. I hope you find more purpose in life the ridiculing those looking for meaning.
@kagekiri: So religion does provide answers? Or does it manufacture answers.... Why ask why? Does the Universe need or have to have a purpose?
...It turns out, when you don't think there's any reason for life, you don't have any respect for it...
You possibly couldn't make a more generalized and unfounded statement. I can't live my life content that science and physics made it so, and at the same time be a decent person?
I certainly don't mean to ridicule you, but you need to think through your statements a bit more, and not generalize.
@Geisrud - MS150 fundraising time!: He's been told all his life not to think - what do you expect? As soon as you start using your brain you start to realize: woops this whole thing makes NO sense.
@Erik Schlange: Gah - all of you - please lay off Christians! We get a bad rap here way too often. As a Christian, I respect your opinion to believe what you want. Please respect mine. And Erik, this isn't just at you, so PLEASE note that. It's directed to anyone here who is agnostic or atheistic and continues to infer how dumb we are just because of what we believe. Another poster may have started it, but you don't have to respond to it.
Some Christians do believe that God and science can happily work hand in hand. I, for one, am one of those people. Let's not be bigots. I know it's the internet and people are going to bicker, so I'm wasting my time jumping into the middle of this, but come on... Let's just be nice, ok?
Also, do not dare compare real Christians to Hitler. I'm sure good, loving, kind, tolerant Muslims just LOVE being compared to terrorists. Oh wait? They don't? And they don't deserve it either? Yeah - we don't deserve it as Christians either. Don't lump us in with the ones who misrepresent us. It's brutally small-minded to do so, especially in a tech blog where this shouldn't even be brought up.
And that's all I have to say on the matter. Or should I say the anti-matter. There I tried to end on a nice note.
Who am I kidding - let the flaming begin.... /sigh
@kagekiri: The question "Why?" can transcend modern science and becomes purely philosophical. There can be any number of motives that we can imagine for however many deities mankind currently worships. It can be possible that there is no why at all; the universe just happens to exist, and there is no motive for it to be. But, this does not invalidate science in the least. The bottom line of science is to find the means, not the motive.
The motive is subjective. You can object to this concept if you like, but with the amount of sects that exist that have their own explanations for the reasons behind existence, no single person, or group of people can ever convince me of any of their viewpoints of the "purpose" for existence. I could very well argue that there is no purpose, and that the purpose of your life is yours to create. This may not sit well with everyone, but it being such an uncomfortable concept won't undo it. Of course, I could be 100% wrong about everything I do or don't believe in, but for a lack of any real empirical data, I'm going to leave the "Why?" to the philosophers.
@Taurus_McGee: Since religion deals with ideas that go far beyond any means of experimentation, I see no reason why it couldn't.
Regarding association, I also agree. I think using examples like Hitler and his Roman Catholic upbringing doesn't sum up the whole of the Catholic following. My mother is Catholic, and I have complete faith and confidence that she is nothing like Hitler.
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"In other words, the universe should have poofed all matter and antimatter out of existence."
"poofed"?! what the heck!?
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(I don't care if that is accurate or not.)
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And science oddly enough fails to answer any questions pertaining to why the universe is here: not the mechanics, but the purpose. Nor should science ever pretend it can.
Anyway, I'm kinda sick of this whole atheistic hipster crap that's been everywhere. I'm tolerant of stuff I don't believe in, but atheists love pointing out stupid religious people.
You know which governments were anti-religion and enforced atheism? The fricking Axis. Communist China. Hitler loved science: testing human limits for torture, swimming in freezing water, etc. The examples of atheistic and simultaneously abusive governments is not a pretty picture. It turns out, when you don't think there's any reason for life, you don't have any respect for it: Science is not reason enough for decency. That logically makes sense to me when I assume no greater power or morals, so I'm glad atheists aren't all like this, but seriously. I hope you find more purpose in life the ridiculing those looking for meaning.
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You possibly couldn't make a more generalized and unfounded statement. I can't live my life content that science and physics made it so, and at the same time be a decent person?
I certainly don't mean to ridicule you, but you need to think through your statements a bit more, and not generalize.
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Some Christians do believe that God and science can happily work hand in hand. I, for one, am one of those people. Let's not be bigots. I know it's the internet and people are going to bicker, so I'm wasting my time jumping into the middle of this, but come on... Let's just be nice, ok?
Also, do not dare compare real Christians to Hitler. I'm sure good, loving, kind, tolerant Muslims just LOVE being compared to terrorists. Oh wait? They don't? And they don't deserve it either? Yeah - we don't deserve it as Christians either. Don't lump us in with the ones who misrepresent us. It's brutally small-minded to do so, especially in a tech blog where this shouldn't even be brought up.
And that's all I have to say on the matter. Or should I say the anti-matter. There I tried to end on a nice note.
Who am I kidding - let the flaming begin.... /sigh
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The motive is subjective. You can object to this concept if you like, but with the amount of sects that exist that have their own explanations for the reasons behind existence, no single person, or group of people can ever convince me of any of their viewpoints of the "purpose" for existence. I could very well argue that there is no purpose, and that the purpose of your life is yours to create. This may not sit well with everyone, but it being such an uncomfortable concept won't undo it. Of course, I could be 100% wrong about everything I do or don't believe in, but for a lack of any real empirical data, I'm going to leave the "Why?" to the philosophers.
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Regarding association, I also agree. I think using examples like Hitler and his Roman Catholic upbringing doesn't sum up the whole of the Catholic following. My mother is Catholic, and I have complete faith and confidence that she is nothing like Hitler.
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