I've thought about Apple TV a lot but I picked up a Roku instead due to price. Apple has a lot of content but none of it's free. I get Netflix for $13 bucks, and I can watch TV shows for free on the web/hulu. Apple TV is just too expensive for what they give consumers. #appletv30
Despite what you theoretically think you are capable/allowed to do, Apple does not care. The purpose of AppleTV, is to give direct access to the ITUNES STORE, from your TV, the screen that you intend to view purchased content.
AppleTV is not a home Media Server or Do-it-All Set Top Box.
Hardly acceptable for a site like Gizmodo to intentionally miss the point of a device, just because its not what the author wants to use it for. Yeah, you want to plug in a 2 TB external HDD so you can rip Netflix and download Blu Ray Rips, and store/play them to your hearts content, as if you paid for all the media.
Well, you didn't pay for it.
And in regard to the limited storage, if you're lucky enough to have a modern Apple TV with 160 gb HDD, you have little reason to need an external as well. 160 gigs is enough to get any media hound through the day. And this is Apple TV, not a portable device. Plan on sitting on the couch much?
Apple is smart enough to know that storage on the AppleTV, while important, does not have to keep up with external hdd or even computer hdd sizes. Most of your movies will exist on your computer and external harddrive, and can be easily synced over when needed. Keep new or highly rated content on the Apple TV. Transfer whatever else you need, when you need it. No Big Deal. #appletv30
@PMZanetti: I believe the prurpose of the device was to make Apple money. To do that, customers would have to purchase it. As an official Apple dud, let's just think of the list as a combination of the wants/issues of the consumer, the intended audience of this device.
Seriously, how many people purchased this because Boxee was hacked onto it?
Apple's crosshairs were a bit off this time - unless the point of the device was not to sell.
Oh, and I do like the larger hard drive = piracy analogy. Classy. #appletv30
Once a year us AppleTV users get to come out of the woodwork and bask in the glory of a software update. I guess we should be thankful for once a year updates instead of nothing.
Internet Radio is fairly huge for my home theater, that's about it. Interface updates are fun but meh. LP's and extended play, super meh. Purchases are too expensive to make it interesting. Rents are where it's at.
I'll crawl back into my hole now and wait for BBC, Hulu, Netflix, and all the other things we'll never see. #appletv30
Something that appears to have improved in 3.0 is that when going to movies and music, "My Movies" and "My Music" appear at the top of the list rather than the last item on the list. This little change dramatically reduces the "money grubbing bastards" feeling that I used to get when entering those sections, even though technically it's still there.
Why the emphasis on external storage? I upgraded my AppleTV to a 300 GB hard drive and I realized it wasn’t really needed. As long as your computer is on you can stream all the content. How much content do you really need access to at once? Most people only care about their 10 most recent unwatched movies / TV shows. That leaves plenty of room for the average music collection. #appletv30
@Vermifuge: It's not just about capacity—to me external storage means flexibility and convenience that cumbersome over-the-network application-based syncing doesn't provide. #appletv30
"I don't honestly see how a USB slot could be used for anything evil, and yet three generations of ATV OS have passed without firing it up."
This is false, the USB port is wonderful, it allows us to patch the AppleTV with Boxee so that we can watch any format and any file without the need of iTunes! You can even use the NAS ;-) #appletv30
HDMI still crashes my Toshiba 26" TV.... even when the TV is not on the HDMI input. Wierd. I have to run RGB, which isn't much of a picture quality issue as it is a BIG-bulky-cable-running-to-the-TV... issue.
If Apple had a service that provided ad-based free content, ala Hulu, then this would be more useful.
Haven't tried Boxee since 3.0 update - I am guessing it is a no-go for now. #appletv30
Why can't someone port Apple TV 2.0 (or 3.0, for that matter) to Snow Leopard. . . I just want to rent movies on my Mac Mini from the couch with my remote (actually, I want my wife to know how to rent movies). #appletv30
@timgoi: Isn't that basically what Front Row is? You can also tryout Plex. Both have plug-ins that can extend the functionality in ways Apple TV, especially Plex. Also, the Boxee/Hulu Desktop combo is hard to beat.... #appletv30
@Duncan Mowatt: Unfortunately, you can't rent movies via Front Row (as far as I know). To be honest, I really want ATV 2.0 or 3.0 because I like the interface more. But, I would take current Front Row with the ability to rent movies. #appletv30
"Speaking of terabytes, what the hell is that USB 2.0 drive for? It certainly isn't for USB drives, because whenever I connect one, nothing happens."
It's a specially-formatted-and-partitioned... USB drive that Apple uses at the factory for recovery purposes. The USB drive holds recovery info, to boot from it you hold a couple keys on the remote as the ATV boots to trigger recovery from USB.
If you MODIFY your Apple TV, and don't mind sticking with Take 2 until 3.0 gets hacked, you CAN use the USB drive as external /Media storage. And besides, modifying your Apple TV means more fun stuff - like EyeTV and USB TV tuners.
@dragon: ONE: Almost forgot - they have hacked both full OS X Tiger and OS X Leopard onto the unit as well - even booting via USB. Makes it a nice little $229, slow-as-hell OS X terminal. But hey, it works for the basics, right?
[I'd post the link to the guide for Leopard, but it has a link right in the thread to a pre-made image torrent for it. And I don't believe in 'piracy' so to speak, so go just look it up on Hackint0sh yourself.]
What I would have liked would be the ability to enhance the support of h.264 and do 720/30p instead of just 720/24p. Since most camcorders shoot at 1080/60i, it makes sense to export at 720/30p (because interpolating 60i becomes 30p). But no. Now, we have to experience stuttery playback if we export our home videos at 720/24p.
The AppleTV uses an nvidia chip that comes with Purevideo support, so all Apple has to do is harness that chip to speed up the AppleTV.
One more thing I want to see (apart from WMV and XViD support) is the ability to start off the AppleTV *without* it being connected to a TV, and play music through my stereo using the iPod Touch as a remote. Currently, the AppleTV *must* be connected to a TV, or it won't startup at all! Even if all you want to do is playback music on your stereo, in which case you don't need the UI (since there's the iPod Touch/iPhone Remote app!). #appletv30
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Despite what you theoretically think you are capable/allowed to do, Apple does not care. The purpose of AppleTV, is to give direct access to the ITUNES STORE, from your TV, the screen that you intend to view purchased content.
AppleTV is not a home Media Server or Do-it-All Set Top Box.
Hardly acceptable for a site like Gizmodo to intentionally miss the point of a device, just because its not what the author wants to use it for. Yeah, you want to plug in a 2 TB external HDD so you can rip Netflix and download Blu Ray Rips, and store/play them to your hearts content, as if you paid for all the media.
Well, you didn't pay for it.
And in regard to the limited storage, if you're lucky enough to have a modern Apple TV with 160 gb HDD, you have little reason to need an external as well. 160 gigs is enough to get any media hound through the day. And this is Apple TV, not a portable device. Plan on sitting on the couch much?
Apple is smart enough to know that storage on the AppleTV, while important, does not have to keep up with external hdd or even computer hdd sizes. Most of your movies will exist on your computer and external harddrive, and can be easily synced over when needed. Keep new or highly rated content on the Apple TV. Transfer whatever else you need, when you need it. No Big Deal. #appletv30
10/30/09
Seriously, how many people purchased this because Boxee was hacked onto it?
Apple's crosshairs were a bit off this time - unless the point of the device was not to sell.
Oh, and I do like the larger hard drive = piracy analogy. Classy. #appletv30
10/29/09
Internet Radio is fairly huge for my home theater, that's about it. Interface updates are fun but meh. LP's and extended play, super meh. Purchases are too expensive to make it interesting. Rents are where it's at.
I'll crawl back into my hole now and wait for BBC, Hulu, Netflix, and all the other things we'll never see. #appletv30
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Something that appears to have improved in 3.0 is that when going to movies and music, "My Movies" and "My Music" appear at the top of the list rather than the last item on the list. This little change dramatically reduces the "money grubbing bastards" feeling that I used to get when entering those sections, even though technically it's still there.
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This is false, the USB port is wonderful, it allows us to patch the AppleTV with Boxee so that we can watch any format and any file without the need of iTunes! You can even use the NAS ;-) #appletv30
10/29/09
If Apple had a service that provided ad-based free content, ala Hulu, then this would be more useful.
Haven't tried Boxee since 3.0 update - I am guessing it is a no-go for now. #appletv30
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It's a specially-formatted-and-partitioned... USB drive that Apple uses at the factory for recovery purposes. The USB drive holds recovery info, to boot from it you hold a couple keys on the remote as the ATV boots to trigger recovery from USB.
If you MODIFY your Apple TV, and don't mind sticking with Take 2 until 3.0 gets hacked, you CAN use the USB drive as external /Media storage. And besides, modifying your Apple TV means more fun stuff - like EyeTV and USB TV tuners.
[wiki.awkwardtv.org] for the Take 2 update information, [wiki.awkwardtv.org] to learn how the USB recovery process works. #appletv30
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[I'd post the link to the guide for Leopard, but it has a link right in the thread to a pre-made image torrent for it. And I don't believe in 'piracy' so to speak, so go just look it up on Hackint0sh yourself.]
10/29/09
The AppleTV uses an nvidia chip that comes with Purevideo support, so all Apple has to do is harness that chip to speed up the AppleTV.
One more thing I want to see (apart from WMV and XViD support) is the ability to start off the AppleTV *without* it being connected to a TV, and play music through my stereo using the iPod Touch as a remote. Currently, the AppleTV *must* be connected to a TV, or it won't startup at all! Even if all you want to do is playback music on your stereo, in which case you don't need the UI (since there's the iPod Touch/iPhone Remote app!). #appletv30