for $140, you might as well throw in a few extra bones for airport extreme. I refuse to pay over $100 for any router, even if that means sticking with my Tomato-based WRT 54GL
@MaDog That's completely irrelevant, N is backwards compatible with B and G, that was always present in every pre-N spec and definitely in the finalized spec.
Having an N router means you get to use all bands but can enjoy the latest spec if you have supported devices.
@EdaFonzie: Yeah, B and G stuff will work with N, but what madog is saying is that the B and G items will drag your speed down to those levels. Your N devices will be wasted.
@badhatharry: Not exactly, I run an N router in my house and I'm the only one with an N compatible card so It's set to send out B, G, and N frequencies , but while they're connection is 54Mbps mine is usually around 144Mpbs. Yes it is diminished somewhat by broadcasting both, but I still have greater speeds, not to mention that it runs on the 5.0Ghz spectrum so suffers much less interference from some phones and microwaves.
@EdaFonzie: As (that's some) badhatharry said, it's not completely useless and is backwords compatible with previous mainstream wireless specs. It's just that I'm sure there are many other people in a similar position as myself that have a cell phone, game console, and old computer using the G spec, and a newer computer using N spec.
When anything other than N is connected to an N router, it physically slows down the entire wireless network to become backwords compatible making the N device not access at it's potential. Whether it actually matters or ones Internet connection is fast enough to utilize it is a different story, but it's why dual band routers exist if I wasn't clear on that before.
@madog: Yeah, since the tech specs on the site don't tout this as being dual-band I'm presuming it isn't. I've got the older WNDR3000 which is dual-band, but not gig-LAN. and DD-WRT works fantastic on it, if this one was dual band I would consider upgrading...
When working with a dual band router, you simply set one radio to be N only, and the other to be G/B or compatibility mode (depending on your software), DD-WRT sets them up as completely seperate APs with diff SSIDs and everything, you can even setup virtual APs based on one radio or the other with additional SSIDs for different auth protocols/DHCP servers/subnets/etc...
At this point I find N routers to be useless for many people. Anyone with multiple computers or other devices that use wifi but most likely still have B or G cards in them, like an iPhone or a Wii (or just about every phone and game system capable of wifi), wouldn't benefit to the fullest of the N spec. The fact that an N router will slow down the network if anything less than an N device is connected to it defeats the purpose in many scenarios (at least to my understanding).
If anyone is thinking about getting an N enabled router I would suggest getting a dual band router that can support both specs (G and N) individually and at their fullest speeds. At least until everything is N in the next couple years (when the next spec is being released), or unless you know all of your devices use it, or at the very least the B/G devices you own are not active at the same time as the others (and then when the speed is necessary).
This is kinda tasty. I think I want to setup a N network in my new house for gaming and streaming WMC. I don't know if I want to wait that long though. Anyone have a N router that they really like?
@Xeno: I really like the new Airport Extremes. I've had several N routers starting with the craptastic Linksys WRVS4400N (RMA'd a dozen times). I've also used the WRT600N and the Dlink DGL4500. They all had problems with dropping connections or just failing entirely after a couple of weeks or months. The Apple is by far the most consistent and reliable I've tried thus far... Simultaneous dual-band FTW!
@sirsycho: That's a possibility. I have had issues with that stupid application you have to run for configuring them in the past though. Why can't they be configured on a web page?
@Xeno: Netgear WNDR3000, near-current DD-WRT, rock solid, encrypted PPTP VPN, DynDNS, advanced routing is a snap, dual-band N|b/g, wake on lan deamon, QoS, fully functional (and correctly supported) uPnP.
Only drawback is no gig-LAN, and a giant blue LED array bubble that (unless they recently fixed it) you can't turn off when using DD-WRT...
Can't buy them retail anymore, but can prob find new ones on ebay hella cheap.
I have constantly been looking for a hardware solution that streams as easily from my Mac to my PS3, but it doesn't seem there is really another solution out there other than pickup up a used PS3.
I would love for Sony to release a set top box that supports the exact same protocols as the PS3 for DNLA streaming.
I'm still all fuzzy. What the hell? My internet can run hours of 1080p gameplay but not DVD quality streaming? I don't think the $14.99 per/mo is worth this VHS quality crap.
@budboyy2k: Ummm... you aren't *streaming* 1080p gameplay... Seriously, wtf, are you new? So I am guessing, based on your complete ignorance of how it actually works, tha tyou probably have a shitty internet connection and just aren't aware of it.
@BeautifulAgony:
actually, i'm not new. i do stream gameplay & videos (in HD mind you [yeah xbox has those stupid videos and i watch them]) #mediastreaming
@BeautifulAgony:
actually, i'm not new. i do stream gameplay & videos (in HD mind you [yeah xbox has those stupid videos and i watch them]) #mediastreaming
@budboyy2k: Hello *Scotland waves his hand in a friendly manner*
(Are you aware that you are replying to a comment that was made almost a year ago? ) #mediastreaming
@Natenog: i did every now and then too. it would stop and lower the quality on some tv shows (30 Rock the had it the worst). i would just pause it right away and do something else for a few min like i would on a slow computer and it stopped. it was annoying, but it worked. hopefully i won't need to do that anymore tho...
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At least we got that out of the way...
10/05/09
Having an N router means you get to use all bands but can enjoy the latest spec if you have supported devices.
10/05/09
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10/05/09
When anything other than N is connected to an N router, it physically slows down the entire wireless network to become backwords compatible making the N device not access at it's potential. Whether it actually matters or ones Internet connection is fast enough to utilize it is a different story, but it's why dual band routers exist if I wasn't clear on that before.
10/05/09
When working with a dual band router, you simply set one radio to be N only, and the other to be G/B or compatibility mode (depending on your software), DD-WRT sets them up as completely seperate APs with diff SSIDs and everything, you can even setup virtual APs based on one radio or the other with additional SSIDs for different auth protocols/DHCP servers/subnets/etc...
it is amazingly versatile.
10/05/09
10/05/09
If anyone is thinking about getting an N enabled router I would suggest getting a dual band router that can support both specs (G and N) individually and at their fullest speeds. At least until everything is N in the next couple years (when the next spec is being released), or unless you know all of your devices use it, or at the very least the B/G devices you own are not active at the same time as the others (and then when the speed is necessary).
10/05/09
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Only drawback is no gig-LAN, and a giant blue LED array bubble that (unless they recently fixed it) you can't turn off when using DD-WRT...
Can't buy them retail anymore, but can prob find new ones on ebay hella cheap.
09/21/09
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09/08/09
I would love for Sony to release a set top box that supports the exact same protocols as the PS3 for DNLA streaming.
09/08/09
09/08/09
Plus for the cost of a nettop I could pick up a used PS3 and have Blu Ray Player.
06/03/09
How would you ditch the STB when it has to connect to it for source?
01/22/09
poor facebook users, four of 'em act like idiots and 400 of 'em get labeled because of it.
01/22/09
why is everyone hating on facebook users. how are we any different than regular users?
01/22/09
Oh, and you're all spawned by the devil. Or that's what my Grampy always told me anyhoot.
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-Brett
12/07/08
Tell your parents to cancel your Netflix plan.
10/18/09
actually, i'm not new. i do stream gameplay & videos (in HD mind you [yeah xbox has those stupid videos and i watch them]) #mediastreaming
10/18/09
actually, i'm not new. i do stream gameplay & videos (in HD mind you [yeah xbox has those stupid videos and i watch them]) #mediastreaming
10/20/09
(Are you aware that you are replying to a comment that was made almost a year ago? ) #mediastreaming
10/21/09
Hello Scotland *waves hand* are you aware that I don't care #mediastreaming
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