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    Leica's Tank-Like S2 Costs Almost As Much As a Tank

    I Wish Digital Cameras Still Had Bellows

    Mamiya's $20k, 33-Megapixel DL33 Medium-Format Digital Is Beautiful

    Leica's S2 Is What You Get When You Crossbreed a Tank With a 37-Megapixel Pro Camera

    Leica Leaks Out New High-End S System With 37MP, Almost-Medium-Format S2 DSLR

    Phase One P65+ is First Full-Frame Medium Format Photo Sensor, Packs a Gaudy 65 Megapixels
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    Image of Weihovah Weihovah
    07/30/09

    In reply to Leica's Tank-Like S2 Costs Almost As Much As a Tank
    i'll wait for the lumix version
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    Image of DeusExMach wonders what the hell happened to his stapler. DeusExMach wonders what the hell happened to his stapler.
    07/30/09

    In reply to Leica's Tank-Like S2 Costs Almost As Much As a Tank
    I bet that thing's shutter-sound goes off like a howitzer.

    It doesn't just take pictures. It kidnaps, rapes, kills, and dismembers them, and then leaves the corpses tied up in a garbage bag out in the woods.
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    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    07/30/09

    In reply to Leica's Tank-Like S2 Costs Almost As Much As a Tank
    Isn't it much cheaper to just go buy a Red?
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    Image of apus apus
    07/30/09

    @Noobs-R-Us: It's hard to buy things that don't exist. And then: No, Red's MF sensor will cost considerably more.

    That said, if Red delivers on its promises, they might very well become the sole manufacturer of digital backs, at least in the higher price range.
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    FooSchnickens promoted this comment Edited by apus at 07/30/09 11:45 AM apus was starred apus was unstarred
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    07/30/09


    @apus: Erm, first off, Reds DO exist. Quite a few, in fact. My buddy owns one and always flaunts it when he comes by the shop. So dreamy~ Perhaps you were referring to the Scarlet and Epic, which haven't been released yet. Their ONE bodies start at $9000 less than the S2 and that small chunk of change would go a long way towards their MF-sized sensor, or maybe even all of it depending on the pricing.

    Granted, we're kinda comparing apples to oranges here. Production-quality HD video cameras and Studio-quality still cameras are a bit hard to compare. Once the Scarlet gets released we'll see how they stack up.

    That said, even still grabs from a ONE are astonishing.
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    Image of apus apus
    07/30/09

    @FooSchnickens:You are right, of course Reds do exist, but at far smaller sensor sizes and resolutions. Though the Red One wouldn't be considered a substitute for somebody considering a camera with a sensor larger than full frame 35mm, I think.
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    Image of FooSchnickens - BPH Free FooSchnickens - BPH Free
    07/30/09

    @apus: True, but at least the standard sensor size is a full 35mm that's easily expandable to a ridiculous 210mm sensor. -_-

    I'd take either, really.
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    Image of apus apus
    07/30/09

    @FooSchnickens:My post wasn't against Red, I love the company. If they manage to get the dynamic range they advertise, Epic would be the first sensor that isn't ridiculous in the eye of someone used to film (not slide, the real thing).

    The Leica though is targeted at people who want more than DSLR 35 resolution, but are happier with that kind of body design than a classical MF SLR.

    And there are good reasons for that: MF cameras are slower to handle, this would be a point for fashion people. The Leica has better burst rates than a Hasselblad as well. It's nothing compared to the Epic 645, though, but that won't ship for some time, and Red's dates of availability may change considerably. And even when they ship, Red has long waiting lists for pretty much everything they sell. Telling paying clients to wait until the superior system finally ships is not an option.
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    Image of suburbancowboy suburbancowboy
    07/30/09

    In reply to Leica's Tank-Like S2 Costs Almost As Much As a Tank
    This will be owned by rich people who have no photography skills.

    I used to own a high-end A/V install business. We would install great audio systems for people who had the worst taste in music, and had like 80 cds in their collection. They just had to have the best equipment to show off when they had parties.
    I see this camera finding its way into the hands of many of the same people.
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    Image of FuturePastNow FuturePastNow
    07/30/09

    @suburbancowboy: This will be owned by people who make obscene amounts of money taking pictures for magazines and advertising.
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    Image of PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
    07/30/09

    In reply to Leica's Tank-Like S2 Costs Almost As Much As a Tank
    I'm no professional photographer, but I can't even imagine an application where you would need a camera like this.
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    Image of loriensleafs loriensleafs
    07/30/09

    In reply to Leica's Tank-Like S2 Costs Almost As Much As a Tank
    Why in the world does it cost that much. Seems like a lot of these high end products just use expensive materials that don't actually make them function better (and if they do not the price difference better). It is ridiculous that rich people want to support "rich brands" just so they can own the brand name. It's a complete waste.
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    Image of sweetness666 sweetness666
    07/30/09

    @loriensleafs: Yes, of course, it's a conspiracy of the rich to annoy you with expensive products, or, these are specialist tools that serve a market and a purpose.
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    FuturePastNow promoted this comment Edited by sweetness666 at 07/30/09 10:24 AM sweetness666 was starred sweetness666 was unstarred
    Image of apus apus
    07/30/09

    @loriensleafs: It's mostly the sensor. MF digital backs always cost in that range.

    And as said before: It's a professional tool. If you shoot a production that costs 10s of thousands a day, you don't use the joke that is 35mm. Professionally 35mm is only used for journalism. Otherwise you use the largest format you can reasonably handle and with digital, that's quite expensive.
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    Image of Lawrence Francell Lawrence Francell
    04/28/09

    In reply to I Wish Digital Cameras Still Had Bellows
    [lensbaby.com]
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    Image of GrossGreg GrossGreg
    04/28/09

    @Lawrence Francell: [banhammer.time]
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    Image of s0crates82 s0crates82
    04/28/09

    @GrossGreg: It's relevant. Those things are neat as hell. Tilt-shift is available to the masses... and they use freaking bellows.


    so stfuplzkthxbai

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    Image of GrossGreg GrossGreg
    04/28/09

    @s0crates82: Yeah, I already acknowledged that it is relevant. All you need to do is read the post above yours. It's not that hard, you know.
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    04/28/09

    @GrossGreg: Look at the timing between your respective comments, 2:18 and 2:23. It is MORE than possible that when s0crates82 loaded the page and read through the comments, your comment had not yet appeared.
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    Image of Nick Nick
    04/28/09

    In reply to I Wish Digital Cameras Still Had Bellows
    i miss winding the film. always made me feel like the photographers i saw on tv and when you're a kid everything comes from tv.
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    04/28/09

    @Reply Works Again _Nick: I miss winding the film too. Always made me feel like the photographer I was for 30 years prior to digital cameras.


    * geezer attempting to relate to the pre-Post-It-Note generation *

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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    04/28/09

    @bosskev: post-Post-It-Note*
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    Image of Mayor McRib Mayor McRib
    04/28/09

    In reply to I Wish Digital Cameras Still Had Bellows
    Why does that film camera have an ISO setting?
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    Image of John Mahoney John Mahoney
    04/28/09

    @Mayor McRib (AKA Captain Sweatpants): This comment is adorable.
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    Image of Nick Nick
    04/28/09

    @Mayor McRib (AKA Captain Sweatpants): do you remember buying 200, 400, etc speed films for your old ninja turtle camera?
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    Image of Monty Monty
    04/28/09

    @Mayor McRib (AKA Captain Sweatpants): What I originally interpreted as a funny question / comment apparently others thought was a serious question. Now I am in question of my very existence on this planet. Thanks.
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    Image of Mayor McRib Mayor McRib
    04/28/09

    @Monty: It was intended to be funny. Sorry to put you all through that...
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    Image of Monty Monty
    04/28/09

    In reply to I Wish Digital Cameras Still Had Bellows
    Considering I have been re-discovering film photography (at the same time Ritz is going under), I have to agree with you completely. The bellows just add that je ne sais quoi that we were always certain digital was missing and can still not understand why. There is something about shooting with real film, even in that oh-too-generic 35mm format, that just feels right - even if 90% of the time I reach for the digital. Besides, medium film is still the best thing to happen to photography, no matter how many zillion mega pixels your digital might get to.
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    Image of balls187 balls187
    03/20/09

    In reply to Mamiya's $20k, 33-Megapixel DL33 Medium-Format Digital Is Beautiful
    While the thought of medium format gets you hard, that price tag really ought to soften ya right up.
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    Image of MarilynKnunder MarilynKnunder
    03/19/09

    In reply to Mamiya's $20k, 33-Megapixel DL33 Medium-Format Digital Is Beautiful
    Awwwe. My dad had a Mamiya C330 Sport TLR, and I loved using it! It was especially popular when I was shooting weddings, "Ooh, what kind of camera is that?!"
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    03/20/09

    @MarilynKnunder: Do they make digital TLRs?
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    03/19/09

    In reply to Mamiya's $20k, 33-Megapixel DL33 Medium-Format Digital Is Beautiful
    $19,000 of the price is to cover the cost of having the letters "Mamiya" on the camera.
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    Image of Gonzalo Oxenford Gonzalo Oxenford
    03/19/09

    In reply to Mamiya's $20k, 33-Megapixel DL33 Medium-Format Digital Is Beautiful
    "check out our HDR tutorial"


    Where is it? any link?

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    Image of John Mahoney John Mahoney
    03/19/09

    @Gonzalo Oxenford: [i.gizmodo.com]
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    03/19/09

    In reply to Mamiya's $20k, 33-Megapixel DL33 Medium-Format Digital Is Beautiful
    Mamamiya!


    I'm not a praying man, but if you're up there, please get this for me Superman!

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