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    United Nations Approves MicroUSB Universal Phone Charger Standard

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    Why Can't We Get a Standard Phone Charger Like Europe?

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    Image of Mr. Damage Mr. Damage
    10/26/09

    In reply to United Nations Approves MicroUSB Universal Phone Charger Standard
    One obstacle, summed up in one word: Apple. #universalchargingsolution
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    Odin promoted this comment Mr. Damage was starred Mr. Damage was unstarred
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    10/26/09

    @Mr. Damage:
    Even Apple may struggle against the force of a Union. #universalchargingsolution
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    Image of Benguin Benguin
    10/24/09

    In reply to United Nations Approves MicroUSB Universal Phone Charger Standard
    I work at a mall kiosk that sells cellphone accessories and I wish this standard would be adopted here. There are so many freakin' types of chargers and it gets so annoying trying to find the correct one for somebody's random phone. #universalchargingsolution
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    10/24/09

    In reply to United Nations Approves MicroUSB Universal Phone Charger Standard
    Wow, why is every "regulation" or "standardization" for technology not go along with what the industry is already using? We should have the main usb connector, and a mobile/small connector.

    What does every portable hard drive, computer accessory, mobile phone (that uses usb) use so far? MINIUSB, not micro. #universalchargingsolution
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    whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII promoted this comment cbstryker was starred cbstryker was unstarred
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    10/24/09

    @cbstryker: The size difference is a big (pun intended) factor for choosing microUSB over mini. #universalchargingsolution
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    Image of WestwoodDenizen WestwoodDenizen
    10/24/09

    @whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII: Man, that was a seriously weak pun. #universalchargingsolution
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    whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII promoted this comment WestwoodDenizen was starred WestwoodDenizen was unstarred
    Image of James Kinney James Kinney
    10/25/09

    @whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII:

    when cell phones are thinner than the miniusb i will believe you.

    the micro is a piece of crap!!! i hate using it it never feels correct sliding into the phone. feels cheap and like it will break.

    miniusb ftw! #universalchargingsolution
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    whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII promoted this comment James Kinney was starred James Kinney was unstarred
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    10/27/09

    @James Kinney: Why would you want mini as a standard, when you anticipate phones thinner than mini as an eventuality?

    I think micro is a better choice, because we WILL have phones thinner than mini, and probably sooner than you or I think. The point of a standard is to stay relevant as long as possible, and picking the fatter format when "thin is in" would be a bad call.

    And I have a microUSB using phone, and my connector is working just fine, and I tend to abuse my electronics. Maybe its just my luck though. #universalchargingsolution
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    10/27/09

    @WestwoodDenizen: I can live with that. Thanks for your input. #universalchargingsolution
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    Image of WestwoodDenizen WestwoodDenizen
    11/10/09

    @whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII: That was kind of a better pun, if it was intended. #universalchargingsolution
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    10/24/09

    In reply to United Nations Approves MicroUSB Universal Phone Charger Standard
    Many of the phone manufacturers apparently saw this coming because we have been noticing many of the newer phones out there have already standardized on a micro USB port for their connectivity. Even better, there are converters for those using mini to change the chargers to micro for only a few bucks.

    This concept has been floated almost since the inception of mobile phones. Nokia had the standard on power adapter plugs for many years and a few other cell phone companies were using their design, despite it not being an official standard. So, kudos to the companies pushing this forward.

    Is Apple on whatever committee is considering this? I agree with the other folks here mentioning that, despite Apple's (supposed) reliance on standards, I am concerned that they might not add the micro port on the device. It seems even more unlikely that, despite it being possible, they would switch from their proprietary connector to a universal one. But, if they did - I would be sending a nice assortment of "I love you in a special sort of way" candies to Mr. Jobs. #universalchargingsolution
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    10/24/09

    In reply to United Nations Approves MicroUSB Universal Phone Charger Standard
    I have no doubt that they (all the competing companies) will find a way to screw this up. I'll just stick with my iPod and my iPhone. Works in my car, all the cables are interchangeable, etc.

    The only thing this will end up helping is the phone makers, so they can sell the phone without a charger. I doubt they will lower the cost of the phone because of that, and average joe consumer will probably have to buy one with the new standard anyway, so that will be another $20 when buying a cell phone.

    I don't really buy the 51,000 ton number. Like most statistics used to support a position, I suspect that very, very optimistic calculations were used. #universalchargingsolution
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    Platypus Man promoted this comment CraigJ was starred CraigJ was unstarred
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    10/24/09

    @CraigJ: Yeah, that may be true, but you'll only have to spend that $20 for a new charger once. Afterwards, the next time you get a new phone, the old charger will still work with it, so unless it breaks, you don't need to buy another new charger. And if it does break, because they're all the same, it should be really easy to get a new one.

    Also, if a friend is over at your place, you could let him charge his phone there if need be, which you could only do now if you had the same phone. There are all sorts of possibilities that this brings to the table. #universalchargingsolution
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    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    10/24/09

    In reply to United Nations Approves MicroUSB Universal Phone Charger Standard
    I don't even see why America has to hop on board per se - I mean, the cellular industry is pretty international, and assuming that manufacturers will want to sell as widely as possible, it would be logical for American and foreign manufacturers to adopt this standard and sell those phones into the US market, regardless of whether the US government passes a law or or adopts a regulation requiring it. #universalchargingsolution
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    10/24/09

    @Canoehead: you're forgetting that there is a strong incentive for manufacturers to have a proprietary charger - they can charge a lot more for replacement devices, and even license the rights. Manufacturers may be on board with this idea now for a number of reasons (not the least of which is public pressure) but they could have all adopted a system like mini-USB years ago but chose not to in favor of being able to sell high-margin peripherals. #universalchargingsolution
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    10/24/09

    @Canoehead: Companies will do what ever is cheapest for them. Think of power supplies that are now for the most part 240/110V. It means one production line for the whole globe. #universalchargingsolution
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    weatherman promoted this comment twilight-arc was starred twilight-arc was unstarred
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    10/25/09

    @weatherman: Ding! Weatherman wins the thread. That's 51,000 tons of profits sitting out there - those phone chargers probably cost a couple bucks to make, but sell at 6x that. You lose money on your main item, and make money on all the items that make the main item work. #universalchargingsolution
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    10/24/09

    In reply to United Nations Approves MicroUSB Universal Phone Charger Standard
    i wonder if Apple will jump on board with this when they are working on there own new charging system? #universalchargingsolution
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    fleebailey33 promoted this comment tatublu was starred tatublu was unstarred
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    10/24/09

    @tatublu: i doubt it, actually apple has pushed tons of standards, gizmodo made a post about it a while ago. i think we would see apple push the iphone adapter as a standerd before adopting micro usb... #universalchargingsolution
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    Image of PaddyDugan PaddyDugan
    08/14/09

    In reply to Bluelounge's Refresh Station Charges Four Devices At Once, Is Pretty In Pink
    Why wouldn't I just drill holes in a shallow wooden box? Oh wait, I already did. But thanks for the idea. I'll go paint it pink.
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    thegreatfratsby promoted this comment PaddyDugan was starred PaddyDugan was unstarred
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    08/14/09

    @PaddyDugan: I'm gonna do it with a cigar box I have laying around.
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    geiko was starred geiko was unstarred
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    08/14/09

    @geiko: I mean, drill holes that is. Not "do it."
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    Image of Higher750 Higher750
    06/29/09

    In reply to Why Can't We Get a Standard Phone Charger Like Europe?
    Absolutely no way this would supplement the 30-pin plug.


    This will replace the current 30-pin plug and will also be launched world wide. So even though there is no proposal for US markets, we'll see this anyways. Apple wouldn't waste $$ developing two different plugs for different markets. That is just stupid and hurts consumers as well as Apple.

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    06/29/09

    @Higher750:


    USB only has 5 pins, and two of them are for power.


    the apple 30 pin connector handles video out, audio out, communications, power in and out, and other forms of connectivity like docks and bluetooth adapters. you simply can't do that on 5 pins. can't. apple didn't go with a 30 pin connector for no good reason - they need enough independent connections to do what they wanted it to do, plus a few spares. also, it provides structural support when docked, something as flimsy as micro USB can't do either. so yeah, your theory... it has holes.

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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    06/29/09

    In reply to Why Can't We Get a Standard Phone Charger Like Europe?
    I think forcing MicroUSB does the opposite of what they indended, at least for a few years until someone actually has them.


    As it us, I can charge various things with "MiniUSB" (USB Mini "B") - my Moto KRZR, GPS, PSP, PS3 controllers... To me it feels like they started to see a standard emerging, and decided to shake it up again so everyone has to buy yet another set of cables, in the guise of doing the opposite.


    Micro USB? ...I've never even seen it apart from gadget blogs.

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    Image of the_Sleepwalker the_Sleepwalker
    06/29/09

    In reply to Why Can't We Get a Standard Phone Charger Like Europe?
    And isn't NOT being like Europe how we came into existence in the 1st place?
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    06/29/09

    In reply to Why Can't We Get a Standard Phone Charger Like Europe?
    Man you guys are getting sloppy. TechCrunch lite is it?


    [lifehacker.com]

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    06/29/09

    In reply to Why Can't We Get a Standard Phone Charger Like Europe?
    Verizon won't like this as they can't sell people a $60 startup kit which includes a car charger, a pleather case, and a 1GB micro-SD card. I mean, how can they be expected to survive selling $10.00 worth of stuff for only a 500% mark-up?!?!
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    06/29/09

    In reply to Why Can't We Get a Standard Phone Charger Like Europe?
    Oh, and the reason Apple is onboard is because they can then use it as an excuse to re-design the entire plug system for the iPhone/iPod Touch and thus force us all to buy all new hardware again!


    More money for them, more money for the companies that make their products, it's all gravy for Apple!

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    06/29/09

    In reply to Why Can't We Get a Standard Phone Charger Like Europe?
    it is because regulation is for commies. not for americans. I'll be damn if the government gets involved.
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    06/29/09

    @elabuelito: This kind of standardization has very little to do with the government trying to be communist. How would you like it if every router used it's own proprietary cable and every appliance had a different power plug. Standardization can be a very good thing.
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    Image of Rabid Penguin Rabid Penguin
    06/29/09

    @Purple Monkey Dishwasher: And a lot of good standards have come without government involvement. If companies come together to agree on a standard for phone chargers without government involvement (like it appears Europe has done) that's okay. But what we don't need is John Kerry [government] forcing it on us.


    I'm pissed just thinking about what's going on in our government right now... Cap & Trade, or Crap & Tax as I like to call it... I just need to take a deep breath. Calm down Penguin, calm down...

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    06/29/09

    @Rabid Penguin: When companies come together to agree on things it is rarely in the public's interest... Can anyone say OPEC?
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    06/29/09

    @ospreyguy:

    But is OPEC the rule or the exception. But also OPEC is a cartel made up of twelve countries that are not free markets, and the oil industry is run by the governments... so although I may agree with your distaste in OPEC, it's not the best example. And there are also other places to get your oil from.
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