To be fair, app browsing isn't all that great on *any* phone. In fact, I have yet to use a single mobile device (including the iPhone, thankyouverymuch) that I actually prefer browsing on over a full compy. Fullsite app browsing = generally awesome in my book.
The level of Apple fanboyism in these comments is off the scale.
In the end everyone copies from each other at some point. Personally I don't think Win7 resembles OSX much but that's just my opinion.
Also to pre-empt any snarky Apple fan spinning that opinion into something negative I don't think that it being dissimilar is a bad thing. Windows has its perks over OSX and vice versa, neither is unanimously superior so get over your damn god-OS complexes already. #windows7mac
While anti-Microsofties are going to be quick to criticise this, if you read the patent application, you'll see that it's different from sudo. An analogy would be landlines versus mobile phones. In both cases you dial a number on a handheld device and communicate (voice only) with them over a great distance. Similar interfaces that achieve similar results, but enough of a difference to be patentable. For example, mobile phones combine the keypad with the headset. Trust me, I have no love for software patents (I think they should all be banned), but this patent is not sudo.
People from Slashdot have already critiqued this to death and the general consensus on the pro-Linux Slashdot is that it's not sudo and this is probably MS filing a defensive patent application so as to ward off potential future lawsuits. #microsoftsudopatent
I love Zune and have all 3 version but you can't help but to think that one day future xboxes and windows will be all you have left. #windowsmobilemarketplace
@Gundem: I'm sorry, did you just call Microsoft M$ (which, by the way, has been ruled to be "old" and "unoriginal" as of about 3 years ago), then express your dire love for the Zunes? I...
"Well, the new online portal seems like a solid idea, albeit one that implicitly acknowledges that app browsing is not that great on a WinMo 6.5 phone. You can access the portal from any browser, taking advantage of your computer's larger screen and faster loading to find apps that much quicker."
I dunno about that - I wouldn't be so quick to say that it acknowledges that so much as it comes as a logical step. I mean... look at the iPhone App Store. I personally hardly ever use the app store from the phone, unless it's to grab some free app that I need to use for whatever reason that has come up. Based on my experience, and that of the people I know, I'd say that the App Store within iTunes is more of the main one, with the mobile app store browser being more of an added convenience. So I'd say that Microsoft has their head on straight here - It's just that they had the mobile marketplace available first as a catalog available on its mobile devices, and now they're completing and solidifying the idea through a desktop version.
edit: PS - I miss the <blockquote> tags... they made quotes so much more intuitive and easier to read and comprehend in context at first glance.
The Giz author isn't lying, I just read the patent claim. Sure sounds like SUDO. Someone tell me this isn't sudo, "Systems and/or methods are described that enable a user to elevate his or her rights. In one embodiment, these systems and/or methods present a user interface identifying an account having a right to permit a task in response to the task being prohibited based on a user's current account not having that right."
It doesnt sound like sudo. it sounds like "run as another user who can run something like this"
EDIT: well its my opinion. i didnt read the full patent, but the first bit sounds like it is describing something like the "run as" window i got once or twice in XP.
@Pengwin: Yep, the main difference is that sudo depends on su, which doesn't really care about who has permission for what; it just runs commands as another user.
The Microsoft patent is explicitly only for use in the case that a computer reads code protected by another user, and requires user interaction to gain that permission. #microsoftsudopatent
@spannu:
"The Microsoft patent is explicitly only for use in the case that a computer reads code protected by another user, and requires user interaction to gain that permission."
What? It isn't specific at all. It is for rights elevation and that is it. Rights for everything, where is the part about another user and where is the dual login? #microsoftsudopatent
Luckily its not related to the hardware architecture so I'm sure next quarters patch updates will include programing to improve on processor efficiency. #netbooks
I get the same battery life as I did in XP on my Macbook Pro. I can get a little over 2 hours max with wifi off, screen almost off, and doing basic tasks. #netbooks
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(Google: I'm talking to you.) #windowsmobilemarketplace
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In the end everyone copies from each other at some point. Personally I don't think Win7 resembles OSX much but that's just my opinion.
Also to pre-empt any snarky Apple fan spinning that opinion into something negative I don't think that it being dissimilar is a bad thing. Windows has its perks over OSX and vice versa, neither is unanimously superior so get over your damn god-OS complexes already. #windows7mac
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People from Slashdot have already critiqued this to death and the general consensus on the pro-Linux Slashdot is that it's not sudo and this is probably MS filing a defensive patent application so as to ward off potential future lawsuits. #microsoftsudopatent
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I love Zune and have all 3 version but you can't help but to think that one day future xboxes and windows will be all you have left. #windowsmobilemarketplace
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I think something broke. #windowsmobilemarketplace
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I dunno about that - I wouldn't be so quick to say that it acknowledges that so much as it comes as a logical step. I mean... look at the iPhone App Store. I personally hardly ever use the app store from the phone, unless it's to grab some free app that I need to use for whatever reason that has come up. Based on my experience, and that of the people I know, I'd say that the App Store within iTunes is more of the main one, with the mobile app store browser being more of an added convenience. So I'd say that Microsoft has their head on straight here - It's just that they had the mobile marketplace available first as a catalog available on its mobile devices, and now they're completing and solidifying the idea through a desktop version.
edit: PS - I miss the <blockquote> tags... they made quotes so much more intuitive and easier to read and comprehend in context at first glance.
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sudo clothes -off #microsoftsudopatent
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"Seriously?"
"Yes... or else I'll format C: and partition your bodies until your own chkdsk's won't recognize the fragments!"
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"/sigh" #microsoftsudopatent
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or else I'll mkdosfs -vF 32 /dev/hda #microsoftsudopatent
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EDIT: well its my opinion. i didnt read the full patent, but the first bit sounds like it is describing something like the "run as" window i got once or twice in XP.
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The Microsoft patent is explicitly only for use in the case that a computer reads code protected by another user, and requires user interaction to gain that permission. #microsoftsudopatent
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[patimg1.uspto.gov]
Wow, i hope that link works. But that hardly looks like sudo
i hop #microsoftsudopatent
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"The Microsoft patent is explicitly only for use in the case that a computer reads code protected by another user, and requires user interaction to gain that permission."
What? It isn't specific at all. It is for rights elevation and that is it. Rights for everything, where is the part about another user and where is the dual login? #microsoftsudopatent
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