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redman042
11/18/09

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The ribbon would be far easier to get used to if they added a "quick search" feature like they have in the Start menu on Win Vista and Win 7. Imagine if you couldn't remember where the "show header and footer" command was, but you could just start typing "header..." and get quickly taken to the command.
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SigmundTheSeaMonster
11/18/09

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..if its the best selling software...why does it need a new version! /sarcasm
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floman
11/18/09

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The ribbon pissed off a lot of seasoned users of Word. What they should have done, like other software companies, is offered the old interface for experienced people who did not want nor need to change to an interface for children. But nooooo...... Twats.
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jamjen
11/18/09

@floman: Well, although I agree the ribbon interface was a pain at first, I like it now, and can't stand 2003 anymore (which is on my Citrix server, so I do run into it daily). And I'm pretty sure everyone in my office would agree these days (not to say there wasn't some issues on roll out). It took some time to get used to, for sure. The ribbon is more efficient, and hot keys still work the same. If you don't like it, stay with 03 I say.
My 2 cents
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Asherek
11/18/09

@floman: You know you can revert to the classic interface right?
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redman042
11/18/09

@Asherek: How exactly? I don't see any option for that in '07.
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Asherek
11/18/09

@redman042: My apologies, I installed an add-in a while ago and forgot that it's not available in the default interface.

Here are 3 options for doing so:

[www.megaleecher.net]

Hope that helps.
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nowayman
11/18/09

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Once I got used to the ribbons in Word, I was able to put through some slick marketing presentations at work that eventually got noticed by a couple district managers. I found I was using more design options than before, to produce something that looked professional. The ribbon made learning how to use Word far more organic than in my previous ten years of the software, and that's saying something.

My only problem with Office 2007 is (aside from ridonkulous pricing) that in Word text boxes are the glitchiest fucking mess ever. I can't remember the last time I had to "fight" a piece of consumer software to move a box around.
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Noobs-R-Us
11/18/09

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I hate ribbons! Whoever came up with that at MSFT should be shot.
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FezDaStanza
11/18/09

@Noobs-R-Us: I think the ribbon is the most productive thing Microsoft has ever done (thats original, atleast). For me it made word as, if not more, powerful than Publisher in design and the formatting options (so easy to use) make everything stunning.
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Noobs-R-Us
11/18/09

@FezDaStanza: Holy crap! You're the first person I have ever heard say that they actually like ribbon. R u sure you're not a MSFT employee?I can't find seem to find the functions that I want with it buried in different boxes.
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SnusBeorn
11/18/09

@Noobs-R-Us: I guess I'll be the second person then, because it's difficult for me to imagine a scenario in which I'd willingly return to using the old (IMO clunky and non-intuitive) menu system. I've been using the 2010 technical preview for a few months now, and despite the glitches that remain in Outlook, the same is true for the ribbon implementation in that part of the suite. And in Excel and PowerPoint for that matter.
I use this software a lot (every day, except for PowerPoint, which is more like once every couple of weeks), and the ribbon has not only made my usual tasks easier to perform, it's also allowed me to make regular use of features that I'd either forgotten about, didn't know how to use, or didn't even realize were there. With the ribbon I find it easier to apply conditional formatting to cells in Excel, for example, or to create a table of contents in Word, or even to access EndNote commands when I'm compiling research citations. The addition of Quick Steps to the Outlook 2010 ribbon is also extremely handy--I can apply a complex set of rules and actions to a message that I'm reading by clicking a button I've created on the ribbon. I have one button and a keyboard shortcut to email all of my students (I'm a college instructor), others to email all students in an individual course or section, and another that opens up a reply to the current message, then categorizes and sorts the original.

And no--I have no stake whatsoever in Microsoft's success (or failure), except as an end user of their products. I just really like the ribbon interface.
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Noobs-R-Us
11/18/09

@SnusBeorn: I guess I'm the only one here it seems. Weird.

I guess am I the only one who hates the new Fred Flintstone start menu when it transitioned in XP? I've been running every OS after that with the classic start menu so it looks more like the 2000.

Am I wrong to assume that if you like the ribbon that you also like the new Flintstone menus?
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SnusBeorn
11/18/09

@Noobs-R-Us: I'm not sure what you mean by "Flintstone" but you could probably call me indifferent about the Start menu. In general, I prefer clean and shiny to cluttered and grey, but I don't experience a significant difference in usability with the Start menu set either way. And while the new menu may be "shiny" it doesn't really meet my definition of "clean" looking.

FWIW, you are far from the only person who likes the old menus better. The #1 thread on the 2010 technical preview discussion board has been made up largely of posts asking for a way to revert to the old system--and it's been that way for months. So far, MS has categorically refused to provide such an option, pointing out that the endeavor would make Office much larger than it already is, would likely require reworking parts of the ribbon interface, and would duplicate functionality already available from third-party software companies.
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crackel
11/19/09

@Noobs-R-Us: Microsoft did not invent the ribbon. [kdedevelopers.org]
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Noobs-R-Us
11/19/09

@SnusBeorn: Flintstones, as in big, chunky, kindergarten looking icons. Makes me feel like someone who rides the small bus to school and not a wall street exec.
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Miraj Wanaguru
11/18/09

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is this a public beta? where do you get it?
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Monty
11/18/09

@Miraj Wanaguru: It does not appear to be linked on that page yet. Perhaps later in the day we will get the link for the download. Hopefully.
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eg3
11/18/09

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I still prefer the 2003 to the confusing & unnecessary 2007 & 2010. No thanks MS.
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dagamer34
11/18/09

@eg3: You're just afriad of change!
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NurseDave
07/28/09

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When was the last actually interesting and/or useful news from Microsoft?
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Dallifornia
07/28/09

@NurseDave: Not fair, how can you make MS Office exciting at all?
I'd guess around E3 when they unveiled the Zune HD and the revamped XBOX Marketplace.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
07/28/09

@NurseDave: Natal is pretty exciting. Window 7 is pretty exciting. The Zune HD having an OLED screen is exciting.
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commentotron
07/28/09

@Lite: is on a boat.:

Media Center in 7 with Dishnetwork support is pretty cool. Decoupling CableCard from OEM and silly PID requirements is cool (and yes, it is happening).
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NurseDave
07/28/09

@Lite: is on a boat.: You all need to get out more.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
07/28/09

@NurseDave: I would love to, but I'm chained to a damn desk for the next 4 days due to pending software release at work.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
07/28/09

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World of Warcraft started doing this a while ago.
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OMG! Ponies!
07/13/09

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I'm still not a fan of the 2007 redesign. It took me five minutes yesterday to find "Change Case - ALL CAPS". I sincerely hope that 2010 includes the ability to choose between 2003 and 2007 interface.

You don't change office productivity software for the sake of change. I don't know a single secretary or attorney who likes it.
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danger the pirate
07/13/09

@OMG! Ponies!: ponies, i think you just need to spend some time with it. it really is a better interface. i know youre smarter than me and it took me all of 15 seconds to find the all caps button. everything is fewer clicks away than before, its just a different.
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PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
07/13/09

@OMG! Ponies!: I hated it when I first started using it but now I'm ok with it. I don't think many of the changes were necessary though but some of the added features are nice to have. I don't know how long you've been using it but you'll get used to it and then grow to like it...
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PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
07/13/09

@OMG! Ponies!: The most annoying thing I remember is figuring out how to print. It took me a while to realize that the little Office icon in the top left was actually a button.
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brianesser76
07/13/09

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Downloaded it and installed it. I like it so far.
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Reil: Save Stars, Save Peach
07/13/09

@brianesser76: Anything stand out as 'new' so far?
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DPeezy
07/13/09

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And there was much fake rejoicing?

Seriously, has there been ANY progress since Office 2003? Weird menubar redesign aside...
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mikeness
07/13/09

@DPeezy: In Office's case I don't feel like there has been much of a need to redesign since about 2003. Maybe as far as support for open document formats yes, but do any of us really need more functionality from our office suite than MS office provides? Oh crap, just remembered how much I hate Outlook's yellow sticky notes. That piece of shit drives me up the wall.
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wolfsingleton
07/12/09

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Microsoft is about as secure as Paris Hilton's chastity belt these days.
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rcast1986
07/13/09

@wolfsingleton: Ooh, I'm sorry, you're about 2 years too late with the reference! *crowd "awwws"*

We would have accepted "Kim Kardashian"

or "Heidi Montag" as answers.
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Identity (Metric)
07/13/09

@rcast1986: Nicely done.
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rcast1986
07/13/09

@Identity's heart button is broken.: Perez Hilton made me, which sucks because I hate the bastard.
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