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    Google Now Finds Stuff Nearby Using Your Location in Mobile Safari

    Apple Approves New Browsers in App Store, As Long As They're Based On Safari

    Safari+ Adds Desktop Functions Like Text Searching to Mobile Safari

    Apple Hit With Bizarre, Poorly Scanned iPhone Browsing Patent Suit

    Mobile Browser Battlemodo: Which Phones Deliver The Real Web

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    iPhone 2.2 Mobile Safari Redesign Is Subtle, Logical

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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    07/16/09

    In reply to Google Now Finds Stuff Nearby Using Your Location in Mobile Safari
    First of all, I'd like a proper Google App like they had on the BlackBerry.



    Second, there's already a bunch of apps for that. I'm not going to go through Google; I'll go through iWant or Vicinity or Zagat.
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    Image of Lupus_Yonderboy Lupus_Yonderboy
    07/16/09

    @OMG! Toesies on the Nosies!: Agreed-iWant is one of my personal favorites-regularly updated, with categories added as necessary & a pretty decent UI. Oh, and free, which is always awesome.
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    Image of 70watts 70watts
    07/16/09

    In reply to Google Now Finds Stuff Nearby Using Your Location in Mobile Safari
    The Google App does this... works really well with voice recognition. (especially if you need to search for something nearby while you're driving)
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    Image of Kraken Kraken
    07/16/09

    In reply to Google Now Finds Stuff Nearby Using Your Location in Mobile Safari
    Too bad location services don't work on the iPod touch. The preference is there, but it doesn't do a freakin' thing. Very annoying.
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    Image of Fabricamity Fabricamity
    07/16/09

    @Kraken: Works perfectly fine for me. Connected to Wi-Fi, of course.
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    Image of VaatiKaiba VaatiKaiba
    07/16/09

    @Kraken: Doesn't work where I am, only seems to work in big American cities where the Wi-Fi has all been mapped out. So if you're not in one of them, doesn't work :(
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    Image of FurySamurai72 FurySamurai72
    07/16/09

    @VaatiKaiba: well thats not totally true. it deff doesn't work every where tho. i was in PA at a friends place a couple weekends ago and it didn't work. but where i live "largest town in the county, smallest population* if i connect to my wifi i can get a location. so i think it depends on a lot more than just being in a large city.

    Edit: woah i got a star? :) when did that happen? yayyy stars. (i hope its not just a bug)
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    Image of doctorSpoc doctorSpoc
    01/14/09

    In reply to Apple Approves New Browsers in App Store, As Long As They're Based On Safari
    ok, you guys are officially idiots!


    you have it bass akward... safari is based on webkit, not the other way around. how the hell can you be writing this story and not have any idea of what the hell your are talking about.


    webkit come from the rendering engine from the konqueror browser that was used as a part of KDE (an open source UNIX windowing system).. apple used the open source code and has been adding to the project ever since..


    webkit is not even a browser it's a rendering engine... Google Chrome and Palms new bowser also used webkit actually lots of new browsers use it and are adding to the code base... it's not an apple or a safari thing at all..


    idiots!

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    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    01/14/09

    @doctorSpoc: This has been typical of late. Its what happens when you have a blog being run by people who are tech addicts, but not necessarily tech savvy. Unfortunately more often than not it means the wrong information is put out there, as unlike reporters, bloggers have a tendency to write now, research after the fact, though a lot of reporters as of late like to do that too.
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    Image of apt94jesse apt94jesse
    01/14/09

    @doctorSpoc: I don't see the issue. They said "but they're all based on Safari's WebKit." I guess technically it's not only Safari's webkit rendering engine, but do you really expect them to site the history all the way back.


    "these browsers are based on webkit, which is safari's rendering engine, which apple took from konqueror, which is kde's browser, which is a graphical desktop environment for many linux distributions, linux of course being the brainchild of Linus Trovalds, grandson of poet Ole Torvalds..."


    Seriously, if people don't know that webkit is Safari's rendering engine then they're not paying much attention anyhow. Lighten up.

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    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    01/14/09

    @apt94jesse: Except they make it sound like its Apples which it isnt. Google, Palm, even some forks of Mozilla are all including aspects of Webkit into their browsers as of late.


    Saying it has to be "based" on Safari is just plain wrong, as Chrome is certainly not based on Safari.


    Face it, it was poor reporting.

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    Image of frigg frigg
    01/14/09

    @Jim Topoleski: My cat's breath smell's like cat food. WTF?
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    Image of John Herrman John Herrman
    01/14/09

    @Jim Topoleski: Dudes, the main issue is that you can only implement browsing functions in your app if it calls on Safari's engine. Yes, that's WebKit. But it's Apple's fork of WebKit, not any other--you couldn't use Chrome's, for example.


    The issue is that the rendering engine does not vary from the one in Safari's, so these aren't really new browsers.

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    Image of Inception Inception
    01/14/09

    In reply to Apple Approves New Browsers in App Store, As Long As They're Based On Safari
    How about they make a "stable" version of Safari instead?
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    Image of biikman biikman
    01/14/09

    @Inception:


    no kidding! While the crashes have been less frequent with 2.2, they still happen and it is damn annoying.

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    Image of EBone EBone
    01/14/09

    @biikman: My crashes occur on Javascript heavy pages. There is an option in the preferences for Safari to turn Java off.
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    Image of verythrax verythrax
    01/14/09

    In reply to Apple Approves New Browsers in App Store, As Long As They're Based On Safari
    As Long As They're Based On WebKit, you mean.
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    Image of John Herrman John Herrman
    01/14/09

    @verythrax: Sort of, but not quite.


    It doesn't look like you could bring in your own branch of webkit here, or even interfere with any of the rendering functions at all. As Long As They're Based On Safari Mobile's Branch of WebKit would be a totally accurate (goofily long) title.

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    Image of Ehrich Blackhound Ehrich Blackhound
    01/14/09

    In reply to Apple Approves New Browsers in App Store, As Long As They're Based On Safari
    That's like Ford when it was still making the Model T. You could have any color you wanted, as long as it was black. WTF, apple?!
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    01/14/09

    @Ehrich Blackhound: What's wrong with black?
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    Image of Serolf Divad Serolf Divad
    11/25/08

    In reply to Apple Hit With Bizarre, Poorly Scanned iPhone Browsing Patent Suit
    I like it. The guy knew that his patent would never be granted by anyone who understood what he was trying to patent, so he threw in the word "matrix" a couple of times to make it sound like he wasn't trying to patent web browsing.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    11/25/08

    In reply to Apple Hit With Bizarre, Poorly Scanned iPhone Browsing Patent Suit
    If this jackass doesn't already have it then I'll work on getting that TOOL patent going.


    I'll need to get a pic of him to submit with it..

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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_ForgotNametag GitEmSteveDave_ForgotNametag
    11/25/08

    In reply to Apple Hit With Bizarre, Poorly Scanned iPhone Browsing Patent Suit
    With all the mentions of the Matrix, I think someone took the wrong pill.
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11/19/08

    In reply to Mobile Browser Battlemodo: Which Phones Deliver The Real Web
    Please. How many people are actually surprised by Apple 'winning' here? Anyone? Bueller?


    You had a chance to be honest, and at least tie the Android and the iPhone. Instead, it's the same ol', um, 'Apple' polishing.


    Enjoy the kickback check, guys.

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    Image of John Mahoney John Mahoney
    11/19/08

    In reply to Mobile Browser Battlemodo: Which Phones Deliver The Real Web
    Hey guys, sorry, the key to the charts could use a little explanation. Post updated, and here it is:


    CHART KEY: Number value is time for complete page load in seconds; page rendering is rated from "Fail" to "Excellent" for each; and the color (red, yellow, green) indicates overall performance taking into account both speed and rendering accuracy: Green = good overall, Red = fail overall.

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    Image of Geisrud Geisrud
    11/19/08

    In reply to Mobile Browser Battlemodo: Which Phones Deliver The Real Web
    I'm totally confused with times vs color coding.


    Instinct takes 2+ min to load WSJ = Excellent, but Dare fails at 38 seconds (both red?)


    Bold gets an excellent at 2.5 mins on Wiki (red), instinct does 52 sec (green)?

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    Image of Dylorian Dylorian
    11/19/08

    In reply to Mobile Browser Battlemodo: Which Phones Deliver The Real Web
    you guys should have waited for the Storm to come out.
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    Image of matt buchanan matt buchanan
    11/19/08

    @Dylorian: We'll include it in an addendum on Friday.
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    Image of theDreamer theDreamer
    11/19/08

    In reply to Mobile Browser Battlemodo: Which Phones Deliver The Real Web
    Sorry, but the Mobile Safari does not compare to Opera when on a proper phone. Try the HTC Touch Pro when using Opera and you will be very happy.


    Yes this is all user opinions in the end, but after leaving both the EDGE iPhone and 3G iPhone for the HTC Touch Pro (on AT&T), Safari just feels lacking when compared to Opera on the right phone. Plus you should take into account the amazing amount of times Safari crashes while the stability of other web browsers is a step above (namely Opera).

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    Image of matt buchanan matt buchanan
    11/19/08

    @theDreamer: We'll be doing an addendum Friday with the Storm and another WinMo phone with Opera 9.5 baked in.
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