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smuckers is good
11/10/08

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I really have not been digging Gibson's guitars. This sounds really nice, but does anybody else think they make their necks way too wide?
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OMG! Ponies!
11/11/08

@smuckers is good: You get used to the neck. Plus, some have the narrow 1960's neck which plays well especially if you lower the action.

My problem with Gibson is that they've been chambering the bodies which is sacrilege in my book. Take a look at the Les Paul line on the website. Longtime models like the Classic and the Standard have been discontinued while Gibson has started making these robot pieces of drek.

Until Gibson stops chambering the body, I (and a lot of people) won't buy a new Les Paul. Both of my Studios are 2005 (pre-chambering) and my Firebrand is from 1980 and weighs a ton.
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Brazell
11/10/08

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Fucking drool. I've been looking to pick up a Les Paul in the $800 - $1200 range for a while, is that body design (color, theme, etc) available in any other studios?

I've already got mine picked out anyway, but I love that. The auto tuning thing... is a total waste, but that it comes built as a seriously good guitar would make what is sure to be a $4000 price tag more reasonable... If you've got $4000 laying around.
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OMG! Ponies!
11/11/08

How about Gibson cut it out with the robot guitar crap and the chambered bodies and just make good guitars. The discontinued half the Les Paul line, including the Les Paul Classic.
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OMG! Ponies!
11/11/08

@MichaelBrazell: First of all, you have to shop around. eBay is fairly reliable for buying guitars. Make sure that the seller provides both the serial number and a photo of the serial number. Ideally, a listing should include about 6-10 photos of the guitar so you can get an idea of the condition. Of course, you won't be able to check playability. Nevertheless, you can pick up a Les Paul Standard on eBay in good condition for about $1,000.

The pickup layout on this guitar is similar to that on the Les Paul Studio BFG, which features a P-90 at the neck and 498 at the bridge. It gives a dirtier, more raw sound. They play well and can be found for about $800. One of the finishes (the one I have) is piano black. It looks and plays great.

Once you get used to playing an uber-heavy guitar, it's not a problem. I've been playing Les Pauls for about 16 years now and the only one whose weight gave me problems was my dad's Les Paul Custom.

There are worse problems to have than your Les Paul Custom weighing a lot.
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11/10/08

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Where are the five colored fret buttons!?!?
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