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spannu
10/29/09

In reply to This Is the First USB 3.0 Motherboard
this board is fast and danger #usb
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bonedog73
10/29/09

In reply to This Is the First USB 3.0 Motherboard
IS USB 3.o downward compatible with 2.0?

And....are there even any 3.0 devices out yet?

Thinking this is way early adopter shit here. #usb
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UnderLoK
10/29/09

In reply to This Is the First USB 3.0 Motherboard
Technically they already had a board with 3.0, but it didn't go retail. They axed it because they wanted to wait to add SATA 6G as well.
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AmishJohn
10/29/09

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P55 boards will only support one vid card @ x16; install a second and it drops to x8/x8. The board is $280.
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taniquetil
10/29/09

@AmishJohn:

How much does it matter that the speed drops to x8/x8 in SLI/Crossfire with P55/Socket1156?

I know that for X58/Socket1366 running x16/x8/x8 didn't offer that much more performance over true x16/x16/x16 or x16/x16/x8. #usb
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AmishJohn
10/29/09

@taniquetil: It's not just that cutback; there's also the drop from triple-channel to dual channel memory, among other things. A 2.6GHz i5 is only $90 less than a comprable Bloomfield i7, MB prices run @ about the same difference. Factor in the third channel of memory, and you're talking about $250 difference between an i5 and an i7 system, but the i5 will be nearing the maxxed out point, while the i7 still has headroom for improvements. If you want to go cheap and only build once, go with the i5 and an x2 type vid card. If you plan on adding on later, go with the i7. #usb
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taniquetil
10/29/09

@AmishJohn:

I understand the differences in performance/upgradeability between P55 and X58, but how much real performance impact does running SLI at X16/X16 have over X8/X8 or X16/X8? I've heard it's not terribly huge.

Whatever my next build is will probably have Socket 1366 and go with i9 if the price isn't outrageous. #usb
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AmishJohn
10/29/09

@taniquetil: From everything I've seen graphics-wise, the CPU is the current bottleneck on current enthusiast setups, not the GPU. So with current setups, yes, there isn't much difference performance-wise. But once, as you say, the i9s roll and move the bottleneck out of the CPU, it'll have more of an impact. Especially if software makes more efficient use of all those cores... #usb
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J2M3
10/29/09

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Whats the point? you can have all the USB3 ports in the world and still have to wait ages for it to penetrate the gadget market. Other than USB hard drives and camcorders, where's the benefit? USB 2.0 is already overkill for most devices like cellphones and web-cams etc, so why all the hubbub over a new spec? #usb
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UnderLoK
10/29/09

@J2M3: USB2 for simple things like the modern point and shoot is still painful as the transfers take forever and god forbid you want to preview the pictures before you copy them over...

USB2 is not overkill and if you think so I would assume you're still running a P3, because I mean what's the point? It does the same stuff modern computers do, just slower. #usb
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TreFacTor
10/29/09

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Just great for the person who is willing to cut the huge squares that are gonna be needed to house that board. I'll wait till I need another machine, by that time it should be "standard". Shouldn't it??? #usb
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UnderLoK
10/29/09

@TreFacTor: The boards come with back plates to match so you wouldn't need to cut anything. You pop out the old plate and put in the new one. #usb
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vmspionage
10/29/09

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Uh, I think you took a picture of the SATA ports chief. #usb
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matt buchanan
10/29/09

@vmspionage: it's the intern's fault. (seriously.) #usb
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Renegade
10/29/09

@matt buchanan: NICK!!! FIX THAT SHIT AND BRING MATT A COFFEE!!

I don't care if he's just going to call it shitty and throw it in your face, you're an intern that's what happens. #usb
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Renegade
10/29/09

@Renegade: Or maybe it was Don or Chris, where did my edit function go? BLAM!!?! Sorry, I'm in a yelling mood. #usb
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matt buchanan
10/29/09

@Renegade: it was an intern who just earned himself another week off the masthead #usb
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Renegade
10/29/09

@matt buchanan: that unnamed SOB, he'll be making macchiatos til his fingers bleed... #usb
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AmishJohn
10/29/09

@matt buchanan: The more pressing question is: How does he look in a dark-blue dress? #usb
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Odin
10/29/09

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Yeah, I'm just avoiding USB 3.0 for the time being. It won't be widespread enough for a while now and is too expensive to bother with. #usb
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Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
10/29/09

@Odin: Same here, but the blue is so pretty..... #usb
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Odin
10/29/09

@Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected:
Too turquoisey for my tastes. #usb
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anexanhume
10/08/09

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This is disappointing, as I was hoping Nvidia would fight Intel on this. This is a step back for notebook users who want decent integrated graphics.
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SmDFrylock
10/08/09

In reply to Nvidia's Nforce Chipset Is Dead in the Water
my shuttle sn41g2 is still going strong.

It's sad that the nforce2 is still the best chipset nvidia ever produced. It's one of the reasons I never upgraded. Soundstorm for life.
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dingus
10/08/09

@SmDFrylock: I tossed mine because the gimpy power supply finally gave up. I know at least two other people that had the same thing happen. Other than that it was a fantastic machine.
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Zombie16[THC]
10/08/09

@dingus: PSU? Just replace it my man. Nforce2 wasn't a whole PC it was a chipset on a motherboard. And yes Soundstorm with it's on the fly dolby digital was AWESOME!
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werk
10/08/09

@SmDFrylock:
Lol, I'm resting my feet on my sn41g2 right now! It's under my desk, it was a bit too loud as my WHS box (stupid tiny PSU fan), but otherwise a great box. I'm sure I'll find a good use for it soon enough.
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ninjagin
10/08/09

@Zombie16[THC]: Agreed. At one point I had five of these, ended up selling one, parting a second out and giving a third one away. I've replaced the PSUs on the other 2 and they've been fine ever since. I don't ask much of them, anymore. I wish that FlexATX had more support outside of shuttle, as a form factor. I've gone to building with microATX since then, but I'm no fan of the bulk.
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dingus
10/08/09

@Zombie16[THC]: I replaced the filter cap that tends to bleed to death (+5VSB) twice on mine. After the third time it died I threw in the towel and went Athlon64 X2 on an NForce3 board.
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dingus
10/08/09

@werk: I spent something like $50 trying all sorts of different fans to replace the crap it came with. Eventually the Panasonic fluid bearing won, being the quietest of the lot for the airflow.
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dingus
08/20/09

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I see a whole lot of bullshit on their site and not much technical detail. Can someone explain what's special here?
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ToVoPro
08/20/09

@dingus: I believe this is Cell Processing technology. I guess it's the next big thing for CPU's. Similar to how dual-core or multi-core processors work, but Cell has the choice to either as a unified unit or by itself individually. The thing it has over our standard mult-core CPU's is that Cell can communicate and work together via broadband network. So computer A can work as a unified unit with computer B in terms of processing power (sort to speak). Hope that makes sense.
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dingus
08/20/09

@LouisJebber: I understand what they did, but their claims aren't anywhere near what they've done. They're claiming to "challenge everything taught in computer science books" and find another architecture besides Harvard or Von Neumann, yet they're hooking together a bunch of slow off the shelf ARM micros with a slow network and having devices bootload each other. So I'll ask again: what's special here?

At least it's pretty.
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Barry99705
08/20/09

In reply to What Is This?
www.hackaday.com has video, and probably snarky comments...
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Log1c
08/20/09

@Barry99705: Moreso than here?
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Mark 2000
08/20/09

In reply to What Is This?
I don't like this idea of networked cluster's of processors. What if the Cylons come back?
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SigmundTheSeaMonster
08/20/09

@Mark 2000: nah. Baltar took care of that. besides, those LEDs would have to be Red.
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Hello Mister Walrus
08/20/09

In reply to What Is This?
I actually think that it's plausible to have a "public option" for computer processing in the future. What I mean is that we could have a central, modular super computer maintained with taxpayer funds. People could then pay an access fee to use this processing power. This way, we would not need to buy powerful computers ourselves - we would only need cheap personal computers that are optimized to interact with the central cloud computer.

This would be analogous to public transportation, and it would be much more resource-efficient than having everyone buy computer power that is unused most of the time. Obviously there would be security, privacy and bandwidth concerns, but these don't seem to be insurmountable.
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jjswee
08/20/09

In reply to What Is This?
I think this is a great idea. Along with a operating system that can turn off many features not needed at the time, you can get a computer to run very little power when all you are doing is chatting on AIM.
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SysRq
08/20/09

@jjswee: Know what else is a great idea? Not using AIM. (ohhhh snap!)
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