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@taniquetil: It's not just that cutback; there's also the drop from triple-channel to dual channel memory, among other things. A 2.6GHz i5 is only $90 less than a comprable Bloomfield i7, MB prices run @ about the same difference. Factor in the third channel of memory, and you're talking about $250 difference between an i5 and an i7 system, but the i5 will be nearing the maxxed out point, while the i7 still has headroom for improvements. If you want to go cheap and only build once, go with the i5 and an x2 type vid card. If you plan on adding on later, go with the i7. #usb
I understand the differences in performance/upgradeability between P55 and X58, but how much real performance impact does running SLI at X16/X16 have over X8/X8 or X16/X8? I've heard it's not terribly huge.
Whatever my next build is will probably have Socket 1366 and go with i9 if the price isn't outrageous. #usb
@taniquetil: From everything I've seen graphics-wise, the CPU is the current bottleneck on current enthusiast setups, not the GPU. So with current setups, yes, there isn't much difference performance-wise. But once, as you say, the i9s roll and move the bottleneck out of the CPU, it'll have more of an impact. Especially if software makes more efficient use of all those cores... #usb
Whats the point? you can have all the USB3 ports in the world and still have to wait ages for it to penetrate the gadget market. Other than USB hard drives and camcorders, where's the benefit? USB 2.0 is already overkill for most devices like cellphones and web-cams etc, so why all the hubbub over a new spec? #usb
@J2M3: USB2 for simple things like the modern point and shoot is still painful as the transfers take forever and god forbid you want to preview the pictures before you copy them over...
USB2 is not overkill and if you think so I would assume you're still running a P3, because I mean what's the point? It does the same stuff modern computers do, just slower. #usb
Just great for the person who is willing to cut the huge squares that are gonna be needed to house that board. I'll wait till I need another machine, by that time it should be "standard". Shouldn't it??? #usb
Way to show off how much of a n00b you are Matt (j/k we all have to start somewhere).
That being said nVidia has made some darn good core-logic, however they still weren't as good as Intel's own. The ONLY reason they gained headway with Intel core-logic was because of SLI. However with AMD powered systems nForce was king and the rest were garbage. The KT266 was the last Via core logic I will EVER own. Unfortunately nVidia didn't want to keep building chipsets for their competitions' product.
nVidia faced this challenge with Intel since they first created nForce. In fact nVidia had stated during nforce 1's development that an Intel solution was taken off the table due to Intel's licencing policies.
However that changed with release of the nForce 4 SLI chipset. Intel didn't want to be left in the dust of AMD systems supporting newer graphics technology. So Intel let nVidia have licence to create chipsets for their CPUs. Ironically at the same time supporting ATi's crossfire with their own chipsets.
@SmDFrylock: I tossed mine because the gimpy power supply finally gave up. I know at least two other people that had the same thing happen. Other than that it was a fantastic machine.
@dingus: PSU? Just replace it my man. Nforce2 wasn't a whole PC it was a chipset on a motherboard. And yes Soundstorm with it's on the fly dolby digital was AWESOME!
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Lol, I'm resting my feet on my sn41g2 right now! It's under my desk, it was a bit too loud as my WHS box (stupid tiny PSU fan), but otherwise a great box. I'm sure I'll find a good use for it soon enough.
@Zombie16[THC]: Agreed. At one point I had five of these, ended up selling one, parting a second out and giving a third one away. I've replaced the PSUs on the other 2 and they've been fine ever since. I don't ask much of them, anymore. I wish that FlexATX had more support outside of shuttle, as a form factor. I've gone to building with microATX since then, but I'm no fan of the bulk.
@Zombie16[THC]: I replaced the filter cap that tends to bleed to death (+5VSB) twice on mine. After the third time it died I threw in the towel and went Athlon64 X2 on an NForce3 board.
@werk: I spent something like $50 trying all sorts of different fans to replace the crap it came with. Eventually the Panasonic fluid bearing won, being the quietest of the lot for the airflow.
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[gizmodo.com] (from mid-2007).
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And....are there even any 3.0 devices out yet?
Thinking this is way early adopter shit here. #usb
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How much does it matter that the speed drops to x8/x8 in SLI/Crossfire with P55/Socket1156?
I know that for X58/Socket1366 running x16/x8/x8 didn't offer that much more performance over true x16/x16/x16 or x16/x16/x8. #usb
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I understand the differences in performance/upgradeability between P55 and X58, but how much real performance impact does running SLI at X16/X16 have over X8/X8 or X16/X8? I've heard it's not terribly huge.
Whatever my next build is will probably have Socket 1366 and go with i9 if the price isn't outrageous. #usb
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USB2 is not overkill and if you think so I would assume you're still running a P3, because I mean what's the point? It does the same stuff modern computers do, just slower. #usb
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I don't care if he's just going to call it shitty and throw it in your face, you're an intern that's what happens. #usb
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Too turquoisey for my tastes. #usb
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That being said nVidia has made some darn good core-logic, however they still weren't as good as Intel's own. The ONLY reason they gained headway with Intel core-logic was because of SLI. However with AMD powered systems nForce was king and the rest were garbage. The KT266 was the last Via core logic I will EVER own. Unfortunately nVidia didn't want to keep building chipsets for their competitions' product.
nVidia faced this challenge with Intel since they first created nForce. In fact nVidia had stated during nforce 1's development that an Intel solution was taken off the table due to Intel's licencing policies.
However that changed with release of the nForce 4 SLI chipset. Intel didn't want to be left in the dust of AMD systems supporting newer graphics technology. So Intel let nVidia have licence to create chipsets for their CPUs. Ironically at the same time supporting ATi's crossfire with their own chipsets.
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It's sad that the nforce2 is still the best chipset nvidia ever produced. It's one of the reasons I never upgraded. Soundstorm for life.
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Lol, I'm resting my feet on my sn41g2 right now! It's under my desk, it was a bit too loud as my WHS box (stupid tiny PSU fan), but otherwise a great box. I'm sure I'll find a good use for it soon enough.
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