Next to Afri-cola and MezzoMix, Fanta was my soft drink of choice when living in Germany. I really loved it when they came out with special limited edition flavors. Unlike in the US the flavors really were limited, they only had them for a few months before moving onto the next. #abbrobots
Um, look, this isn't what I do, but I've got an idea for one of your commercials. You see... a carpenter, making a beautiful chair. And then one of your robots comes in and makes a better chair twice as fast. And then you superimpose on the screen, "ABB: Shittin' on the Little Guy". That would be the fade-out. #abbrobots
@Intelext: The one from the 360 doesn't use a remote though, so it's not really something from the Wii. I think most people say the Wii sucks though because of the graphics, the rendering power, and the lack of games for serious gamers.
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@HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: I'm just using the terminology I hear it couched in typically. By serious gamers, they mean people who play games for hours on end. It seems that most Wii games aren't that type of gamer, but tend to be shovelware and timewasters.If you feel they are pretentious gamers, that is your right; however, I tend to see their point. The Wii has great potential that is vastly under-utilized.
My specific thought about Natal is that, while it's a great and novel idea, most people would rather sit completely still while gaming and/or computing.
I work 10 hours a day in front of a computer as is, so I certainly do not look forward to a day where I might wave my arms and legs in front of a computer for 10 hours a day.
The same is true of gaming for lazy slobs like myself. My ideal gaming experience involves me sitting completely motionless and slack-jawed in front of my TV.
Project Natal is really building itself up to be the first real MS Surface killer. Everyone loves their big-ass tables, but once they see this, they won't go back.
@dallasmay2: I think they can coexist, it seems there are two different target audiences from the promotional videos. Natal seems to be more for home use to control your xbox (and eventually maybe TV/PC/other electronics). As for Surface, it seems to work best in social settings as a piece of furniture (i.e. table) that just sits there and happens to have these cool features which you can use to put your camera on and up/download pictures and play simple games etc.
@Purple Monkey Dishwasher: I don't know. The MS Surface is amazing. It's so versatile. Remember how people lined up at the doors on its release day for hours? Think about the huge developer community that has built up around it. You see them everywhere now, it's quite a phenomenon. I just don't see how MS could possibly bring about a second act even half as good as Surface.
No, the real reason is that Bill Gates and Microsoft are government fronts, and this will be used to body scan you, which makes it easier for the blimps to find you. That's why these record and transmit data even when not plugged in! The body scans will also let the Terminators/guided missles identify you as the correct target.
Didn't the Eye already have facial tracking? It's something common on a lot of digital cameras nowadays. It's not the same as 3D tracking and skeletal modeling, but it may not need to be.
Sony was the only presenter at E3 that showed a live demo of the 1:1 motion controls in action. Nintendo and MSFT didn't do that...and until I see it I'm skeptical.
The other thing I noticed was that even though I knew they were demoing 1:1 motion controls I was still blown away by what they did. The amount of accuracy and precision in the controls was ridiculous.
Finally, in the video they mentioned it, but there are some things that can only be done with a controller (pulling a trigger for instance).
Natal will be awesome, but the PS3 motion controls will be more focused on gaming, similar to the Wii's.
I assumed when Sony announced motion control that it wasn't going to be a huge priority on their end. When you use a device like the Wiimote or this odd looking thing from Sony you get limited to the device. Since Natal needs no device for the system to work anything can happen. I'm not trying to be fanboyish in any way but it seems Microsoft is willing to put more effort into Natal than Sony is with the Eye hands down.
I'm all for being a lazy gamer though. But you have to admit Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 (or something along those lines) would be a blast on Natal.
@tok3ninja: I don't think any FPS works with any of this controllers. I don't know about you but I don't know how to form my hand into an assault rifle and fire at the screen with my finger? And even if they did make gun controllers for COD for Natal am I supposed to carry all the diff kinds around? And even if I did you think Natal will detect all my trigger pulls of my finger? Do I have to walk in place or run in place to move?
Should have a look on Kotaku at todays "Talk Amongst Yourselves". I think the general consensus is "Natal is cool but we still want to hold something and have buttons"
Which if you think about it, kinda makes sense. Natal is limited to what you can physically do. If you can't do a high kick then you're gonna be screwed in Tekken. Natal would be nice for controlling the Dash Minority Report style, but it's not so great for proper games.
@efenili: Visual cues. A virtual hand would appear on-screen that mimics your hand, and grabbing a rifle would be controlling that virtual hand. As far as detecting the finger? I'm not sure about that but if it has the precision to detect your face, why not fingers? As far as moving around, I mentioned it to someone before: think Segway. Lean a little forward or backward. Side-step: lean sideways. Turning: turn your shoulders. Side-step & turn: lean sideways while turning your shoulders.
@ripfire: Ah, that sort of makes sense. But I still feel all the things you mentioned would be a tad bit clumsy only because you always have to stare at the screen. And grab diff guns...unless you could make the motion to holster a pistol and grab a rifle from your back. I mean I see the possibilities but it just gets really complex.
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"Pretentious gamers" is more accurate, IMHO.
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I work 10 hours a day in front of a computer as is, so I certainly do not look forward to a day where I might wave my arms and legs in front of a computer for 10 hours a day.
The same is true of gaming for lazy slobs like myself. My ideal gaming experience involves me sitting completely motionless and slack-jawed in front of my TV.
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Project Natal is really building itself up to be the first real MS Surface killer. Everyone loves their big-ass tables, but once they see this, they won't go back.
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IT'S %*#(*#& VAPORWARE!!
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Or so the Velo-stat Hat crowd thinks/says.
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Market! Market like the WIND!
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Sony was the only presenter at E3 that showed a live demo of the 1:1 motion controls in action. Nintendo and MSFT didn't do that...and until I see it I'm skeptical.
The other thing I noticed was that even though I knew they were demoing 1:1 motion controls I was still blown away by what they did. The amount of accuracy and precision in the controls was ridiculous.
Finally, in the video they mentioned it, but there are some things that can only be done with a controller (pulling a trigger for instance).
Natal will be awesome, but the PS3 motion controls will be more focused on gaming, similar to the Wii's.
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I'm all for being a lazy gamer though. But you have to admit Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 (or something along those lines) would be a blast on Natal.
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Just wondering :)
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Should have a look on Kotaku at todays "Talk Amongst Yourselves". I think the general consensus is "Natal is cool but we still want to hold something and have buttons"
Which if you think about it, kinda makes sense. Natal is limited to what you can physically do. If you can't do a high kick then you're gonna be screwed in Tekken. Natal would be nice for controlling the Dash Minority Report style, but it's not so great for proper games.
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If you're not good with kicking, pick Balrog(US).
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