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I could probably do without the blur, but I'm guessing this will be upgradable to Android 2. I like the look of the keyboard of the Cliq better than the Droid - much better for emulators/games with the d-pad on the left. #nowshipping
$120? Really? Just buy a $30 receiver off ebay if you REALLY need XM radio. Other wise just invest in Slacker (music and comedy) and Wunder Radio (sports and news). #nowshipping
We've been here before... face to face with the Cliq; I'm still on the fence though and wary that I may never see Android 2.0 on that thing. #nowshipping
@En0s1: The Cliq is going to be Motorola's flagship GSM phone for a while. Given that fact, they probably will do what they can to keep the flagship current. (I hope).
@malaklaze: I'm sure someone could do it as a proof of concept. It's incredibly unlikely to be usable, though. The Android software spec requires that you have a few real buttons (I think the Home, Back, and Search buttons are among them). Which, clearly, the iPhone never will.
It would be an awkward hack at best. Unless you're doing it for the sole goal of gloat and glee, I wouldn't recommend it.
@krische: Best idea would be to make each of the different UIs portable. Sense, Blur, stock Android. Alas, I doubt HTC and Motorola will be as open with their custom UIs. I mean, that's cool. It's what makes their products different, gives them their competitive edge, so I can understand why.
I kind of want this (that D-Pad looks great for emulators), but at the same time, I don't give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut about Twitter, Facebook, or any of that crap.
How does this phone compare to the myTouch 3G? It doesn't have a slider, but heck if it's not a nicer looking phone all around than this thing, while also being $50 cheaper with the discount.
I really want to take the android leap. The Cliq seems like a good option. Word is its more responsive than the Hero but it's still using old hardware. Is there anything just over the horizon worth waiting for?
@JayD16: Honestly, I'd wait til closer to the end of the year. Google was talking this summer about there being close to 20 different Android phones on the market by the end of 2009. Now, there's no telling what that's including (Europe does seem to get a bit more Android love than the U.S. for example), but in any case, waiting until October or November, you'll see plenty of other things pop up to consider. Also, there will be more than plenty of hands-on reviews of many of the handsets by then.
Also, don't forget, Android is supposed to get at least two new upgrades by years' end. Now, while Android has been known to have release delays, it's likely we'll at least see some Donut (1.6) action before 2010. Some rumors have even said that Eclair (2.0) will include some more social networking-centric features, which may take away some of the special allure of the CLIQ.
Normally, I'd say just buy what looks good now, but this season, I'd really think waiting a few months on Android would be your best bet.
That's way too much. T-Mo: I don't know what you're thinking but you can't sell a phone with only a few subtle improvements over the G1 at a price that's higher than the G1 was when it came out and a year later and expect it to sell well. The freaking iPhone 3GS costs the same amount and it's running with a Cortex A8 and OpenGL 2.0 graphics. Gah!
@MarcusMaximus: Yeah, I kind of agree. I know Motorola's trying to make back some money with this thing, but honestly, it seems a bit much. The CLIQ seems more like the G1's slightly younger brother than it does a whole fantastic new revision. And for all that does, I admit, look good about this phone, it's not nearly as stunning as the Hero.
Then again, there's still a long way to go yet. Maybe we'll hear about a price-drop for this thing. But honestly, T-Mo....as exciting as this phone is, it's not a $200 phone.
Just to fuck with Moto, Palm will drop the Pre to $100 while Apple announced some upgrade to one of its MacBooks, all while Microsoft runs the Windows 7 ad blitz.
@OMG! Ponies!: But people will still ignore the Pre, complaints about the sacrifices in the newer Macbooks will hit the internets the second day, and Windows 7 ads will amount to little more than youtube videos and updated laptop hunter campaigns.
@laptopmemo: I'm not trying to dump on Moto that much. It's just that the Pre is still a darling, Windows 7 has good buzz, and Apple keeps itself at the forefront of people's consciousness.
The beginning of November is when companies make the push to be the big present for Christmas. We're still in a recession and people are likely to be thinking about which gadget to go with for holiday shopping. On the cellphone front, it's all about iPhone, the Pre, and the Android platform. On the computer front, Microsoft is launching its OS just in time for the season and Apple is going to want to counterprogram.
Moto has to cut through all this other buzz. The Cat Stevens myTouch ad is getting heavy airplay (and is wonderfully Applesque) and Kylie is just the first salvo from Redmond. Palm lucked out; they promised and delivered at the same time as Apple letting down the market both with the 3GS (the iPhone 2.5) and the lackluster iPod lineup.
@laptopmemo: You wanted to know why I was dumping.
Hi. You must be new here. I'm OMG! Ponies! and in case you haven't noticed, I'm not a drive-by commenter. Someone wants me to back up what I say, I generally try to pick up the gauntlet.
@booyahku: I'm so pissed off I couldn't register. I totally wanted to host an Install Party just to show that installing Windows was so easy, it could be done blind, stinking drunk.
People don't leave my parties until they've slept it off on my couches and/or floor.
"the Pre is still a darling" Really? By "darling" do you mean lousy sales and no buzz with consumers? And on what planet is anyone waiting for a Windows Mobile phone??
If you guys haven't read the story about how these clowns killed Moto Mobil it's worth a read, I think it was on Wired.
Moto's engineering as of late has been a train wreck, from their Nextel phones, to their DVRs, and even their receivers (cable and vsat). I don't know what the hell has been going on over there for the last 5 years, but put me in as CEO and would clean house because it ISNT just their mobile group it's Moto as a whole.
@UnderLoK: Ahem. Their radio division has done quite well and has continually had great designs. Especially Government and Public Safety with the new APX models they started shipping a couple months back.
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It would be an awkward hack at best. Unless you're doing it for the sole goal of gloat and glee, I wouldn't recommend it.
10/09/09
I love the Sense, but love the physical keyboard and faster processor of the moment.
10/09/09
Still would be kinda cool.
10/09/09
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Wonder if this can run the Cyanogen ROM?
09/30/09
And please stop bitching about Twitter and Facebook. If you don't want to use them, fine, but others have quite a bit of fun with them. :)
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Also, don't forget, Android is supposed to get at least two new upgrades by years' end. Now, while Android has been known to have release delays, it's likely we'll at least see some Donut (1.6) action before 2010. Some rumors have even said that Eclair (2.0) will include some more social networking-centric features, which may take away some of the special allure of the CLIQ.
Normally, I'd say just buy what looks good now, but this season, I'd really think waiting a few months on Android would be your best bet.
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Then again, there's still a long way to go yet. Maybe we'll hear about a price-drop for this thing. But honestly, T-Mo....as exciting as this phone is, it's not a $200 phone.
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Wow. Harsh words uh?
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The beginning of November is when companies make the push to be the big present for Christmas. We're still in a recession and people are likely to be thinking about which gadget to go with for holiday shopping. On the cellphone front, it's all about iPhone, the Pre, and the Android platform. On the computer front, Microsoft is launching its OS just in time for the season and Apple is going to want to counterprogram.
Moto has to cut through all this other buzz. The Cat Stevens myTouch ad is getting heavy airplay (and is wonderfully Applesque) and Kylie is just the first salvo from Redmond. Palm lucked out; they promised and delivered at the same time as Apple letting down the market both with the 3GS (the iPhone 2.5) and the lackluster iPod lineup.
09/29/09
My response:
That's a long response!!!!!
09/29/09
Hi. You must be new here. I'm OMG! Ponies! and in case you haven't noticed, I'm not a drive-by commenter. Someone wants me to back up what I say, I generally try to pick up the gauntlet.
09/29/09
[consumerist.com]
09/29/09
People don't leave my parties until they've slept it off on my couches and/or floor.
09/29/09
"the Pre is still a darling" Really? By "darling" do you mean lousy sales and no buzz with consumers? And on what planet is anyone waiting for a Windows Mobile phone??
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Reading is so truly fundamental...
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Moto's engineering as of late has been a train wreck, from their Nextel phones, to their DVRs, and even their receivers (cable and vsat). I don't know what the hell has been going on over there for the last 5 years, but put me in as CEO and would clean house because it ISNT just their mobile group it's Moto as a whole.
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