Has Gizmodo lost complete feeling for the cost of things?
Just cause Apple is gauging their customers, does that make it ok for Intel to do the same kind of overpricing? And then just cause Intel is slightly cheaper, you call that low-cost?
@Charbax2: That would be budget-class for a notebook and hobo-class for an ultraportable. The HP DV2 is clearly not a netbook -- if anything, it's like an ultraportable from a few years ago.
"Low-cost" is a relative term. Compare a $700 price tag with what a MBA ($1800 base) or Voodoo Envy (I don't even know, like $3000?) costs and it will look very affordable, indeed.
The market for this processor/these notebooks is not going to be huge, but there are people who need an extremely thin, portable, and reasonably powerful machine and they are not afraid to pay for the privilege.
"Does anyone need this, or want this?" - Yes and yes.
My desktop in all its easily moddable glory is my workhorse. I don't need a top of the line laptop. At the same time I couldn't cope with a gimped netbook. And I can't afford a premium-priced ultraportable. The HP DV2 and whatever comes out like it are the solution. I need a laptop to be super-light, have long battery life, be capable of the occassionally taxing task, and be inexpensive. An optical drive, until physical media finally dies, is also nice.
@Troy A. Scott: yeah. I failed to clarify that while a "thin and light" currently fills the void, it just ain't light enough to take everywhere. Which is why these things win.
Intel frightened itself by creating a product at the low end that had such thin margins. It needs to re-position the modified Atom for mid-market so it (and the laptop vendors) can get some margin back.
@alexmg2420: Funny as that sound they COULD leverage the Periodic Table for their naming scheme if they wanted to. Plenty of numbers there, and some cool elements besides!
Why did Bugatti build a car and sell it for $1.5 million when you can get a perfectly good Nissan Versa that will drive you to as many places for $9k? And has cup Holders?
Why do people pay $100 for fillet mignon when you can go to Carls jr. and buy a Famous Star for $1.50?
Why do millionaires date women like Adriana Lima when Helga down the street with the humpback will blow you for $2 and a jar of pigs feet?
Why buy a Macbook when you can buy a Acer Aspire One for $350 and install Linux?
@nutbastard: Don't blame me i voted for Ron Paul edition: nutbastard, pay attention in math class. Inches are base 12 which divides in to 3rds evenly. Your problem lies with converting a fraction to a decimal. I assure you that if you measured this to the nanometer you would find it to be .33333333332 or another decimal that actually does resolve in a non-repeating decimal but that still measures to with-in the acceptable margin-for-error for fractions of inches.
It's called being facetious. I do ASME drawings for a living. I know more about manufacturing processes than you can imagine. Also, d-bag, if you measured to a nanometer (1 Inch = 25400000 Nanometers ) you would have many more decimal places.
WYF, why does it matter so much how thin it is...? I really don't care that my TV's viewing surface is 4" from the wall that it is mounted on. I just don't understand, make the picture better and add an inch and I would rather go for that.
@OdeliaTermite: Actually, when Pioneer made their 9mm Kura Concept, they were able to produce deeper blacks than they ever did before. I wonder if Panasonic was able to produce the same achievement by going thinner.
@OdeliaTermite: There is a surprisingly large market for people who want to kill off their spouse with a TV (primarily for insurance reasons). Unfortunately, the new flat screen TV's make that extremely difficult because of their light weight. However, this model is knife thin and make accidental decapitation a real possibility. This item will do well in that market segment.
Can I just ask what the heck you mean by "....1080p video, something that even nicely-screened netbooks simply don't need."?
Even if you can tell 1080p at this screen size, there are HDMI out ports on a lot of netbooks. And even if the majority of netbooks don't have optical drives, streaming HD will eventually get to true 1080p, and one could always rip a blu-ray disc or download a 1080p movie.
@Zlevee: Just what it says. It's arguable that doing anything at all on an external monitor is beyond the scope of netbooks. Netbooks are supposed to be cheap, small, and low-powered in both wattage and horsepower. For $300 it is not going to do a lot of things that the big boys can do, and it is entirely reasonable that 1080p is on the list of things it can't do.
I'm in need of a laptop and was wondering if there have been any improvements in energy efficiency. AMD rigs have a reputation for supposedly running hotter that similar Intel rigs and I've been wondering if this reputation is unjustly deserved...
@TonyTriple: I've always heard the opposite, that Intel runs hotter than AMD, but maybe that's changed recently. Everyone was building Opteron machines cause they could OC them well and they ran cooler than anything Intel could throw at them.
@Stacky Botrus: Apparently the auto marketing people are now working for the chip companies. Station wagons because SUVs became crossovers--but they're all station wagons.
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hell what do i know
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Has Gizmodo lost complete feeling for the cost of things?
Just cause Apple is gauging their customers, does that make it ok for Intel to do the same kind of overpricing? And then just cause Intel is slightly cheaper, you call that low-cost?
Everything is low-cost next to Apple.
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"Low-cost" is a relative term. Compare a $700 price tag with what a MBA ($1800 base) or Voodoo Envy (I don't even know, like $3000?) costs and it will look very affordable, indeed.
The market for this processor/these notebooks is not going to be huge, but there are people who need an extremely thin, portable, and reasonably powerful machine and they are not afraid to pay for the privilege.
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My desktop in all its easily moddable glory is my workhorse. I don't need a top of the line laptop. At the same time I couldn't cope with a gimped netbook. And I can't afford a premium-priced ultraportable. The HP DV2 and whatever comes out like it are the solution. I need a laptop to be super-light, have long battery life, be capable of the occassionally taxing task, and be inexpensive. An optical drive, until physical media finally dies, is also nice.
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AMD is just a crybaby cuz they're late at the market.
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Why do people pay $100 for fillet mignon when you can go to Carls jr. and buy a Famous Star for $1.50?
Why do millionaires date women like Adriana Lima when Helga down the street with the humpback will blow you for $2 and a jar of pigs feet?
Why buy a Macbook when you can buy a Acer Aspire One for $350 and install Linux?
BECAUSE YOU CAN!!
01/07/09
0.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333 and the 3's keep going forever.
You can be a quarter inch 'on the dot', but not third.
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douchebag.
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It's called being facetious. I do ASME drawings for a living. I know more about manufacturing processes than you can imagine. Also, d-bag, if you measured to a nanometer (1 Inch = 25400000 Nanometers ) you would have many more decimal places.
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REALLY WHAY DOES IT MATTER SO MUCH????????
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Even if you can tell 1080p at this screen size, there are HDMI out ports on a lot of netbooks. And even if the majority of netbooks don't have optical drives, streaming HD will eventually get to true 1080p, and one could always rip a blu-ray disc or download a 1080p movie.
so...um...WTF is up with that statement?
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Too bad I already bought a machine with Intel inside.
Maybe on the next go round?
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E.O.S.
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