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@jayhawk11 owns property now!!!: Hello, my name is dumbass. I put thin laptop hard drives in spaces made for larger ones, and use screws to screw them down so they don't vibrate/rattle. I'm from 2000 when some still-usable laptops used thicker hard drives that needed to be upgraded to thinner ones. I seem to be doing just fine, thank you for the concern!
(I know this is proselytizing but) I think that Linux deserves a mention for netbooks. It runs fast on the current gen of netbook and, best of all, is free to install.
Skip Moblin - it doesn't install on most hardware.
The netbook build of Ubuntu deserves a look, even if there are a couple of oddball glitches.
Remember what the concept behind a netbook is: quick-and-dirty computing on the go. Checking email, watching movies, and surfing the web. Great deals can be had if you stick to that philosophy. If I'm going to game on a PC, I'm not going to do it on a 10" screen. Because I don't require gaming capability, a wide range of netbooks is available.
Personally, I love my little eeePC. The keyboard is decently spaced, the keys don't feel to mushy to me, and, most importantly, the hinge design provides a natural grip point for carrying the netbook from room to room without worry of damaging the hardware.
Is it the world's lightest netbook? No. But when I'm websurfing while watching TV, the bottom doesn't get hot. That is a vital selling point. These are points that need to be brought to the fore.
How hot does it get? How much battery time do you get while running Firefox and Pidgin? How durable does it feel? What is the real-world range of the wireless card inside?
I had a ridiculously hard time finding a netbook that fit my main criteria when I was looking for one. Basically my choices were HP Mini, or...wait until someone else comes out with another netbook that has a solid-state drive. Sure, it's only got 16GB on the internal drive, but I slipped a 32GB SDHC card into the reader, and now I've got a good on-the-go LDraw machine with a crash-proof model library, and I can check e-mail and such as a bonus.
@Nathan Obbards: This is exactly what I was thinking. The Mini 1ov (IMO) is the best best netbook out there - solid construction (Have you felt this thing? amazing), great price (base of $279 and only around $330 or so as it "should be") and perfect for OSX =)
@TKE-Egon: Paid $200 for mine from the outlet. Wait for the sales and you can get one dirt cheap. I wish I had the bigger battery, but, hell, I can get 3-3.5 hours on the small one if I turn the internet off and just work on papers.
While I do agree these might be very decent netbooks, I think 400 dollars is really pushing it for netbook. If you are going to spend that much, you might as well spend the extra 50-100 more and get a regular 12 inch laptop.
I was thinking the same thing. The threshold I have for a proper netbook is no more than 300, with 200 being a nice sweet spot. I mean, it's a netbook. It should be doing exactly what my iPhone does, except with cheaper and bigger parts.
@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: I picked up a 17" laptop for my wife a few months back for $350. It's nothing spectacular, but it has specs that easily place it outside of the realm of netbooks. Granted, it was a great deal at the time, but as a result I certainly can't see spending more for less.
@MagicalTrev: That's a great deal, IF you want the 17" footprint. I like the small size of my 10" Eee, not to mention the $300 pricetag. My next purchase will probably be a used 8.9" or even 7" original-spec Eee.
@Xagest: Agreed. When you can pick up an Acer Aspire AS1410 for $399 or less, and compared to a netbook it's:
- got a faster CPU
- got a bigger screen, and higher resolution too
- got a better keyboard
- got better battery life
- got 802.11n rather than 802.11g wireless
- got HDMI and eSATA unlike the netbook
- is just as thin or thinner, and only a little bigger
- got Windows 7 Home Premium rather than Starter
I think most of the justification for going with a netbook at $400 isn't there any more.
If it's 7 inches and cheap, it could be interesting. If it's 4 inches... well, I already use an old Axim as a "combination of tablet PC and MID functions." Since PDAs are officially the wave of the past, anyone with a modicum of savvy can pick up a 4" MID on the cheap.
I just got a lovely oxblood eeePC that came with XP. I didn't even boot into XP once.
I immediately put Moblin 2.1 on. Then, after 5 minutes, realized that Moblin is a good idea and a horrible execution and installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix (Karmic). After about 30 minutes of tweaking, it has a beautiful UI, is immensely usable, goes over 5 hours on a full charge, and doesn't get hot on the bottom.
In short, it's the perfect couch laptop. The only glitch is that the Wireless n isn't recognized so I can only surf at g speed. But the n issue is being worked on.
@(Starman) Starman: Firefox runs silky-smooth. Everything about it is good (except for the trackpad button which is a little stiff). Closed, it feels solid (not flimsy).
It has a bit of heft to it but it easily could be put naked into a purse, messenger bag, or backpack with no padded case required.
And Netbook Remix is a consumer-ready OS. There an oddball glitch here and there, but nothing that is any worse than glitches that Cupertino and Redmond have shipped. On top of that, the wake time is about 2 seconds.
The only major problem I had was installing FF extensions; that was fixed by uninstalling and then reinstalling FF. Add-ons install just like FF on SL or Win7.
The 10" eeePC (1005HA or 1008HA) is a great commuter/traveler netbook. It has a hefty battery life and seems to be designed to be tossed in a carry-on back.
Well, there are lots of people who prefer to buy a PC (laptop, desktop, netbook...) with a preloaded copy of linux just because it's cheaper.
After that, they just install a pirated copy of windows over it.
@SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!: Assuming it's all pirated is probably a mistake. I wouldn't doubt that a lot of people, like myself, are currently using legit copies of the Windows 7 RC1 or an old disk of XP lying around that they knew they could use instead of paying 40 extra.
@Maori_Yelir: Thats ok.
But the actual numbers does not really matter, what matters is that this case does exist.
The number of netbooks shipped with linux does not prove anything.
Does anyone else see the line between smart phone and netbook disappearing over the next little while? I mean half the shit your suppose to do on a netbook you can already do on an iPhone/Blackberry(almost)/Droid...up the guts and the screen and you have a phone-slash-netbook pretty quickly...
@TonyWonder: Yeah, up the screen size on smartphones to about 9" and let them fold open with a physical keyboard and the line between smartphone and netbook does begin to blur :p
@TonyWonder: I don't think so tony. A smart phone is still a hand-held device with no full size keyboard and with a lackluster resolution, very expensive price and not able to run real productivity applications. A netbook is a full PC (with its limitations) but you can get 90% of what you get in a standard notebook, I'll leave the remaining 10% to performance. Ultraportables has been in the streets for years... Dell had the Latitude L400 released like 8 years ago... These were very expensive systems back them, not so popular among non travelers because of the price/performance imbalance, however with netbooks been extremely cheap, price/performance is better balanced now... and I admit before using one I was a netbook hater.
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I always assumed that, since desktops are bigger and tend to use 3.5" drives... it was referring to height.
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Skip Moblin - it doesn't install on most hardware.
The netbook build of Ubuntu deserves a look, even if there are a couple of oddball glitches.
Remember what the concept behind a netbook is: quick-and-dirty computing on the go. Checking email, watching movies, and surfing the web. Great deals can be had if you stick to that philosophy. If I'm going to game on a PC, I'm not going to do it on a 10" screen. Because I don't require gaming capability, a wide range of netbooks is available.
Personally, I love my little eeePC. The keyboard is decently spaced, the keys don't feel to mushy to me, and, most importantly, the hinge design provides a natural grip point for carrying the netbook from room to room without worry of damaging the hardware.
Is it the world's lightest netbook? No. But when I'm websurfing while watching TV, the bottom doesn't get hot. That is a vital selling point. These are points that need to be brought to the fore.
How hot does it get? How much battery time do you get while running Firefox and Pidgin? How durable does it feel? What is the real-world range of the wireless card inside?
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I was thinking the same thing. The threshold I have for a proper netbook is no more than 300, with 200 being a nice sweet spot. I mean, it's a netbook. It should be doing exactly what my iPhone does, except with cheaper and bigger parts.
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Yeah, that's why laptop hard drives are so much less expensive than desktop hard drives with the same space.
I'm pretty sure 32 gigs in a netbook drive is going to be a lot cheaper than the 32 gigs of flash in an iPhone.
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- got a faster CPU
- got a bigger screen, and higher resolution too
- got a better keyboard
- got better battery life
- got 802.11n rather than 802.11g wireless
- got HDMI and eSATA unlike the netbook
- is just as thin or thinner, and only a little bigger
- got Windows 7 Home Premium rather than Starter
I think most of the justification for going with a netbook at $400 isn't there any more.
Now at $300 I can still see it.
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I immediately put Moblin 2.1 on. Then, after 5 minutes, realized that Moblin is a good idea and a horrible execution and installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix (Karmic). After about 30 minutes of tweaking, it has a beautiful UI, is immensely usable, goes over 5 hours on a full charge, and doesn't get hot on the bottom.
In short, it's the perfect couch laptop. The only glitch is that the Wireless n isn't recognized so I can only surf at g speed. But the n issue is being worked on.
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It has a bit of heft to it but it easily could be put naked into a purse, messenger bag, or backpack with no padded case required.
And Netbook Remix is a consumer-ready OS. There an oddball glitch here and there, but nothing that is any worse than glitches that Cupertino and Redmond have shipped. On top of that, the wake time is about 2 seconds.
The only major problem I had was installing FF extensions; that was fixed by uninstalling and then reinstalling FF. Add-ons install just like FF on SL or Win7.
The 10" eeePC (1005HA or 1008HA) is a great commuter/traveler netbook. It has a hefty battery life and seems to be designed to be tossed in a carry-on back.
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After that, they just install a pirated copy of windows over it.
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Or they didn't know what linux was and quickly paid some computer geek to put windows back on,
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But the actual numbers does not really matter, what matters is that this case does exist.
The number of netbooks shipped with linux does not prove anything.
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