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Monty
10/15/09

In reply to HP Ranked #1 Green Company (What!?)
What surprised me in the rankings, and perhaps made me a fan of Newsweek's approach, was their ranking of Marathon Oil at 100 on their top 500. Having family that worked for Marathon, I can attest to the fact that they have always had protecting the environment on their agenda, and it was pretty exciting for Newsweek to acknowledge that. Sure, drilling oil and burning it is not a good thing, but we need oil and Marathon is easily the most environmentally friendly oil company out there. #greenpeace
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PaddyDugan
10/15/09

In reply to HP Ranked #1 Green Company (What!?)
I'm grateful for 1. tech companies that care about their effect on the environment; 2. organizations that let consumers know how we can use discriminate spending to make a difference.

My choices for a new laptop just narrowed drastically. #greenpeace
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HowieFelterbush
10/15/09

In reply to HP Ranked #1 Green Company (What!?)
in other words, greenpeace's methodology is unfairly weighted towards maximum drama from minimal catalyst.

gee, who woulda expected such a thing? #greenpeace
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Bs Baldwin
10/15/09

In reply to HP Ranked #1 Green Company (What!?)
Greenpeace made their listings with the use of chemicals or lack thereof as the biggest determining factor. Using less toxins is important but less emissions, use of recyclable materials and general less use of materials matters more.
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brobot - Beboptimus Prime
10/15/09

In reply to HP Ranked #1 Green Company (What!?)
It really is interesting that there's such a huge difference in rankings between the two lists. Yeah, HP being 1st on one and 14th on the other is pretty notable, but check out companies like Apple... 106th on Newsweek's list, and 9th on Greenpeace's list...

106th and 9th?

I guess that goes to show that they really do have quite different criteria for their evaluations.

also worth reading: "Green points for Hewlett Packard and Apple"
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Don Nguyen
10/15/09

@brobot: You're right, but you have to keep in mind that Apple only ranks a few companies, so Apple's ranking delta between the two lists isn't as large. Apple is in the front of one list and in the middle of the other whereas HP is at the front of one list and darn near in last place in the other. #greenpeace
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Crazy_Talk
10/15/09

In reply to HP Ranked #1 Green Company (What!?)
green peace can go fuck themselves.*

* not because of trying to promote green manufacturing, but the painting the HP building thing awhile back. among other things.
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ak4ray000001002003004
10/15/09

@Crazy_Talk: I work in Palo Alto and saw them protesting the morning of the incident, I didn't hear about the "paint job" until later that day. Greenpeace needs to change their tactics and or get lives, they looked like a bunch of idiots.
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Don Nguyen
10/16/09

@Crazy_Talk: Its hard to make a casue as noble as environmental protection look bad, but somehow Greenpeace manages to do it. Must be magic. #greenpeace
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Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
10/15/09

In reply to HP Ranked #1 Green Company (What!?)
I worked for HP at one time, didn't really like the experience, but found it memorable that they actually had a staff dedicated to recycling. I'm talking about people that made 120k plus to organize it.

Not a fan of HP, but they kind of deserve the green ranking.
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NorwoodIsMyHero
10/15/09

@Shamoononon: See "Marketing Expense" on the income statement to see how much the salaries of recycling staff are. HP wouldn't have them if there was not signifigant reputation enhancing value in them. It's important to remember that when you look at this list. Few companies are there because they actually care, nor should they, as it's not their primary job. #greenpeace
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brodie7838
10/15/09

@Shamoononon: I shave my legs.: Must be something special in your locale, cause they sure don't do much dedicated recycling in the HP site I work at. #greenpeace
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spacetrig
10/15/09

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I like HP
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mricyfire
10/15/09

@spacetrig: ditto when it comes to windows based computers it is HP or built buy me.
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masshuum
10/15/09

@spacetrig: Same here. Their support was great for me when my keyboard went bad.

I also like their screens since they're still glossy. I'd rather have my extra light be reflected off the screen, where then I have more control over it, than absorbed into it with an "anti-glare" coating on it.
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balls187
01/13/09

In reply to Palm: OS X is Too Fat to Run Well on Phones
I love my iphone, but I really hope the Palm Pre kicks ass.

Look at desktop graphics and cpus; they kick ass because Intel/AMD had to keep innovating and staying fresh to win/save market share.

Competition is great, even if it does spawn fanboy wars.
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verythrax
01/13/09

In reply to Palm: OS X is Too Fat to Run Well on Phones
Oh, and Giz, can you at least try to sound a bit impartial?

People take a look at the 2 last paragraphs of the article, last page (AKA conclusion).

Geez.
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BeautifulAgony
01/13/09

@verythrax: Gizmodo has absolutely no obligation to be impartial. Individual writers consistently show heavy bias towards various hardware and software.

It's a blog, not an objective or reliable news source. Get your head out of your ass and realize where you are before making such comments. You'd do just as well to ask the Facebook commenters to spell correctly or not act like idiotic trolls.
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