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shpe
07/16/09

In reply to Nokia Is Doomed, Pt. III: Profits Plummet By Two Thirds
I like nokia, because flash lite APIs...

look what I have done:

more here: http://work.shpe.ro/?id2=00030011
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
07/16/09

@shpe: Nice work but I'm more interested in knowing how you managed to get 4 icons at the bottom of the screen on your 5800XM instead of just the two for the phone dialer and address book...
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
07/08/09

In reply to Nokia: iPhone 3GS Has a Crappy Camera, N97 Rocks Faces
"to a still low 3.2-megapixel camera"

Like the 3.2 megapixel camera in the Nokia 5800XM?
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Andy Holt
07/08/09

In reply to Nokia: iPhone 3GS Has a Crappy Camera, N97 Rocks Faces
UGH.

Gizmodo you are a bunch of fanboys. I'm going to have to stop reading your site with all the pro apple crap. I'd be surprised if you weren't subsidized by apple.

I have an n95 and I find symbian highly usable. The camera rocks, gizmo project / skype client rocks, web experience could be a titch improved but nothing major that I've experienced. Google maps client for GPS and street view and google latitude.

There has only been one thing I can't do from the symbian n95 that I am sad about. I can't ssh in to my webserver. I'm sure there is an app for it I just haven't found it, and I don't care enough to search for days for it.

You guys are pissin me off now.
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matt buchanan
07/08/09

@Andy Holt: You realize that the N97 has a completely different UI, right?
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nutbastard
07/08/09

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and like the editor says, it's not about specs, it's about being able to use your phone easily and intuitively, and have a lot of fun in the process.

it's about the god damn OS.
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nutbastard
07/08/09

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the fact that every major phone retailer at some point steps up and makes its case for why their phone is better than the iPhone speaks volumes about how awesome the iPhone is.

you dont see nokia rocking the boat to compare their shit to the pre, or to the G1. you dont see palm trying to one-up the G1 or the nokias. they're all scrambling like mad to make their case... and in doing so givin the iPhone a lot of free press and continued presence in the minds of consumers as the phone against which all others are measured.
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jark
07/08/09

@nutbastard: The fact that so many companies compare their phones to the iPhone says more about how well it is marketed. If it was the best phone in the world but no one had heard of it then making a comparison to it would be meaningless to consumers. It's more about the perception of the product than the quality of the device.
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nutbastard
07/08/09

@jark:

"It's more about the perception of the product than the quality of the device."

but it isn't - i and many others have tried a plethora of different phones, and even those who ultimately decide to forgo the iPhone in lieu of something else, they STILL recognize that the iPhone is something special, that it has a certain je ne sais quoi that no other phone has. it's PLEASANT to use, not just efficient or capable, it somehow feels nice to use, even for mundane tasks.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
07/08/09

@nutbastard: "you dont see nokia rocking the boat to compare their shit to the pre, or to the G1."

Well of course they're not going to compare their crappy iphone knockoff to other crappy iphone knockoffs...
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Rustydog
07/09/09

@nutbastard: And Nokia sells how much per week?
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TheSonOfKrypton
07/09/09

@Rustydog: and YET, they feel compelled to compare their product to the iPhone, as so many other phone companies do. You just don't get it do you? Nokia's yearly phone sales continue to fall, and their dominance as the number #1 worldwide phone distributor continues to falter, and you just don't get WHY they're afraid, do you?
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Hello Mister Walrus
07/08/09

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Whatever people think about Nokia, I don't think that quote is unreasonable. He just says that the iPhone 3GS has a low megapixel camera and is expensive. Both of these are true.
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tande04
07/08/09

@Hello Mister Walrus: No to mention the lack of any kind of design change, which was one of my big disappointments of the 3GS.
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Hello Mister Walrus
07/08/09

@tande04: Yeah, it's sort of odd, given that Apple seems to go out of its way to make its new models look new. I guess it's hard to work different design elements into the iPhone without changing the functional elements that people seem to like.
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pantsonfireliarliar
07/08/09

@tande04: You mean change for change's sake? I like to think of it as: I get to use the same accessories that I bought last year.
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COCOViper
07/08/09

@Hello Mister Walrus:

It's true but it ignores the context of reality.

Saying that a phone that costs $100 more than an unlocked iPhone is a great deal because it has a better camera yet the other 95% of the device is completely unusable relative to the iPhone or even Android is incredibly silly.

I'd take a phone with usability and a compact point and shoot if that was my criteria ANY day.
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tande04
07/08/09

@pantsonfireliarliar: Sure, why not, change for change's sake.

Not unlike what apple has done with the entire iPod line for its entire life cycle.

If they want to make every phone from here on the same design wise they can. Motorola will tell them thats not a good idea though.
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Hello Mister Walrus
07/08/09

@COCOViper: This doesn't mean he is ignoring user interface. He just didn't happen to mention it in this instance.
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Hello Mister Walrus
07/08/09

@tande04: I'm getting the feeling that this has to do with establishing continuity in the iPhone line up. Software and applications are becoming the most popular reason to get an iPhone, so maybe it makes sense to promote the idea that each generation is just a variation of the same platform. It's not like say, the iPod Nano, for which they want you to forget each old generation so the new version will seem brand new.
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Nacholoco
07/08/09

In reply to Nokia: iPhone 3GS Has a Crappy Camera, N97 Rocks Faces
hmm the cool thing about N97 is that you can make long distance skype calls over the network with the embedded Skype app. Symbian is meh but whatever the browser is pretty nice, just get Skyfire if you arent happy with it.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
07/08/09

@Nacholoco: They haven't released a version of Skyfire for Symbian S60 5th edition yet.
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Alex McFadden
07/08/09

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You know, while they shouldn't be talkin' specs on account of their rather lame specs, the N97's camera does rock faces.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
07/08/09

@Alex McFadden: If I want my camera to rock faces, I'll use my camera.
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92BuickLeSabre
07/08/09

@Lite: If I want to rock faces, I put Long Player on the turntable.

@MosesMonster: There are limits.

For example, I still carry keys and a wallet.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
07/08/09

In reply to Nokia: iPhone 3GS Has a Crappy Camera, N97 Rocks Faces
I'd rather have my iPhone 3Gs (That'd 3 Gs as cost of ownership over 2 years.) than the Nokia to be rather honest. The app store alone makes it worth it. I use the apps, the compass, and the GPS constantly to find things near me. Grocery stores, restaurants, directions... Everything.

It's an amazingly useful phone for doing things other than calling people, texting people, and checking e-mail. I use the Zillow app to check home/tax prices and what not.

So, as far as I can tell Nokia is smoking crack.
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imTheKing
07/08/09

In reply to Nokia: iPhone 3GS Has a Crappy Camera, N97 Rocks Faces
Nokia will never learn. Someone should ask one of the executives there to show how apps install on the phone. That ought to be enough to shut them up in itself. Everything takes 400 steps with Nokia and although the devices are nice, it doesn't make up for the poor experience.
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not_a_virus.exe.vbs
07/08/09

@imTheKing: Has it changed from previous versions?

It's usually

Do you want to install X?

Accept License Agreement Yes/No

Install on memory card/Phone memory

Installed...OK
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