I can understand subsidizing the Kindle, for instance, since that offers a more convenient way of reading NYT content in places where a laptop wouldn't make sense (subway, breakfast table, park) but a netbook just seems silly and invites obvious comparisons to just browsing the content on the web.
looks like it comes with vista (WTF?) but i'd just throw TinyXP on anyways.
bottom line: you can totally score a much better laptop with not too much more heft for not too much more money, and i'm sure you could pick up something with an AMD for even cheaper.
@nutbastard: It's true, you can configure one. But as I said in another thread, walk into, say, a Best Buy and these machines are basically non-existent.
@nutbastard: 14 inch and 720p display but what are the graphics capabilities? Crap I am sure.
Bottom line: It does not take much processor to run office, facebook and the other crap most people do. And instead of a huge notebook I can carry a much lighter and smaller unit with tremendous battery life.
And every week best buy and every other retailer has a deal for a $399 Notebook.
when my 5 year old inspiron with a palty 512mb of ram and a 1.6ghz pentium m can run fullscreen HD video at 1920 x 1280, i tend to believe that a dual core @ 2.1ghz can handle output at 720 just fine, even if it is with integrated graphics.
the other part is, my laptop is my primary computer - i dont own a desktop, so whatever i eventually upgrade to needs all teh bells and whistles.
i know optical media is kind of dying, but when your machine gets gorked and needs to be doctored up a bit, you can't always count on being able to boot over USB.
@Demonbird: Look, Steve Jobs says it is impossible to sell a computer for less than $500 that does not suck. So, buy a netbook for $500 if you want a computer that does not suck.
[www.dell.com]
They're there, but they're not stock. You can still get a C2Duo as a BTO option. But don't let the Pentium name scare you - they've got half the L2 cache, but they're Core2 parts and a wicked good value.
@Mark Wilson: I think what happened is that companies realized that they were cutting into their own netbook markets by pricing decently powerful notebooks at or below $500.
Weren't the Core 2 Duos you're referring to later renamed dual-core Centrino or something like that?
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OK, from Wikipedia: There is also some confusion with Core 2 Duo and Centrino Duo. Centrino Duo is the combination of Core 2 Duo and Intel Next Gen Wireless Systems. Core 2 Duo however is referring to the mobile CPU directly. Hence this led to new Centrino branding in 2008.
So I guess the cheap Core 2 Duo laptops are still around but branded differently? I don't know, someone feel free to correct me. I'm confused as hell about it and also on deadline, so I can't delve too deep.
Also, I'd wager the dual-core Pentiums popping up in laptops now are more powerful than the Cores of Yore, so you can still get decent power for $500, it's just not called the same thing anymore.
@Sticks Calhoun: My understanding is that Centrino is the early name for them. My laptop advertises a dual core Centrino processor when it's a C2D T7200 processor. Go figure.
my understanding that Centrino isn't a processor designation - it's a combination of low power processor and wifi card, as well as some other low power components. my old dell had some shitty wifi card in it when i got it, and it was not a centrino, but popping in a specific intel card suddenly made the boot screen say 'centrino'.
from the centrino wiki:
"Centrino is a platform-marketing initiative from Intel. It is not a mobile CPU - rather, the term covers a particular combination of mainboard chipset, mobile CPU and wireless network interface in the design of a laptop."
@nutbastard: Nope. I bought an early HP dv6000 (worst decision and laptop ever) and on those fancy stickers that came on it that are now gone, it advertised itself as a dual core Centrino processor. This here is the processor in it: [ark.intel.com] . Definitely not a Celeron, just the laptop was advertised as a Centrino. It was odd to me too.
Am I the only one who doesn't care about 3D? It's a horrible, horrible gimmick that seems to resurface every 10-20 years or so, and each time I care less.
Unless you are a cyclop or have three eyes, you should be able to enjoy 3D movies and ames. And if you think its a gimmick, watch Avatar in Imax 3D and see what movies will be in the future.
That whole HDMI output but no 1080p video really confuses the crap out of me. It's like Nokia doesn't actually understand what HDMI is. #nokiabooklet3g
@Wilson Rothman: To be honest 99% of the population doesnt know what HDMI is. Whoever is marketing them is a genius though because everyone i run into thinks you cant play 1080p without an hdmi.
I think too often netbook reviews dont get what netbooks are. small cheap and access the series of tubes. I think the idea here is if you are getting a 3g package from sprint you might as well get some extra benefits when you sign the contract. #nokiabooklet3g
@Wilson Rothman: I think they were going for the primary benefit of HDMI. It's audio and video on one cable firstly; ability to handle 1080p secondly. #nokiabooklet3g
It's really a shame, considering how nice this thing looks. If I was going to pay $600 for a netbook, I'd rather get a Lenovo S12 with the NVidia ION, 2GB of RAM and 250GB HDD. #nokiabooklet3g
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14" 720p display, 250GB, 2GB, intel wireless n, T4300 proc, 9 cell battery:
$534
looks like it comes with vista (WTF?) but i'd just throw TinyXP on anyways.
bottom line: you can totally score a much better laptop with not too much more heft for not too much more money, and i'm sure you could pick up something with an AMD for even cheaper.
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Bottom line: It does not take much processor to run office, facebook and the other crap most people do. And instead of a huge notebook I can carry a much lighter and smaller unit with tremendous battery life.
And every week best buy and every other retailer has a deal for a $399 Notebook.
[www.bestbuy.com]
11/19/09
when my 5 year old inspiron with a palty 512mb of ram and a 1.6ghz pentium m can run fullscreen HD video at 1920 x 1280, i tend to believe that a dual core @ 2.1ghz can handle output at 720 just fine, even if it is with integrated graphics.
the other part is, my laptop is my primary computer - i dont own a desktop, so whatever i eventually upgrade to needs all teh bells and whistles.
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lol
But... I bought a netbook for $380 that's a good netbook, it doesn't suck. It doesn't... Can Steve Jobs... be wrong?
Oh my lord...
#speakup
11/19/09
"I mean, I'm not arguing this is probably the most promising netbook of all time."
Kanye approves.
11/19/09
They're there, but they're not stock. You can still get a C2Duo as a BTO option. But don't let the Pentium name scare you - they've got half the L2 cache, but they're Core2 parts and a wicked good value.
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To Newegg, but they're $50 more now.
[www.newegg.com]
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* Researches *
OK, from Wikipedia: There is also some confusion with Core 2 Duo and Centrino Duo. Centrino Duo is the combination of Core 2 Duo and Intel Next Gen Wireless Systems. Core 2 Duo however is referring to the mobile CPU directly. Hence this led to new Centrino branding in 2008.
[en.wikipedia.org]
So I guess the cheap Core 2 Duo laptops are still around but branded differently? I don't know, someone feel free to correct me. I'm confused as hell about it and also on deadline, so I can't delve too deep.
Also, I'd wager the dual-core Pentiums popping up in laptops now are more powerful than the Cores of Yore, so you can still get decent power for $500, it's just not called the same thing anymore.
11/19/09
11/19/09
my understanding that Centrino isn't a processor designation - it's a combination of low power processor and wifi card, as well as some other low power components. my old dell had some shitty wifi card in it when i got it, and it was not a centrino, but popping in a specific intel card suddenly made the boot screen say 'centrino'.
from the centrino wiki:
"Centrino is a platform-marketing initiative from Intel. It is not a mobile CPU - rather, the term covers a particular combination of mainboard chipset, mobile CPU and wireless network interface in the design of a laptop."
11/19/09
... im going to go out on a limb here and assert that you mean your laptop has a dual core Celeron processor.
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It was gimmicky hype then, and I don't see that being different now.
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actually, since nokia makes it, it's a 'nooklet', which is not to be confused with a cranny, though both are of similar dimensions. #nokiabooklet3g
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I think too often netbook reviews dont get what netbooks are. small cheap and access the series of tubes. I think the idea here is if you are getting a 3g package from sprint you might as well get some extra benefits when you sign the contract. #nokiabooklet3g
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