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Xagest
11/16/09

In reply to Video Games Apparently Not "Recession-Proof"
Of course, this probably doesn't show used game sales. I'm sure for used games, just take the graph and turn it upside down. #videogamesales
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ripfire
11/16/09

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I'm on a two year lag. I'm still playing games that released in '07. #videogamesales
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travisco_nabisco
11/16/09

@ripfire: ++ In good conscience I can only buy a few $60 games a year, so the older games with price drops get played much more often.

Also I do have the income to buy as many games as I want, but there are a lot of things that are more valuable to me than always playing the newest and greatest game the week it comes out. #videogamesales
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ripfire
11/16/09

@travisco_nabisco: Seriously! I could spend $60 bucks for one game. Yeah, I did that with Fallout 3. Or I could spend $20 bucks for three used games: Bioshock, Modern Warfare(1), and The Darkness. I'm currently playing Bioshock. Man it's awesome!

Oh btw, don't tell me about the cake. I want to find out for myself.
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daveyac001
11/16/09

@ripfire: there is no cake in bioshock...confusing two great games
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ripfire
11/16/09

@daveyac001: Yeah I know. It was an edit/response to the comic which isn't related to Bioshock. #videogamesales
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TheNimboo
11/16/09

@ripfire: Now I'm curious, what is the other game that has to do with cake? I LOVED bioshock too #videogamesales
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ripfire
11/16/09

@TheNimboo: As far as I know, Portal. #videogamesales
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Kaiser-Machead
11/16/09

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Time to break out my wooden Labyrinth game. #videogamesales
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chauncy that billups
11/16/09

@Kaiser-Machead: you just have to go see the babe. the babe with the power. #videogamesales
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KaZx
11/16/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Nice, have you ever pulled that out while watcing labyrinth? #videogamesales
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Kaiser-Machead
11/16/09

@KaZx: Who can concentrate with David Bowie piercing my soul with his dead stare? #videogamesales
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KaZx
11/16/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Nice to know im not the only one frozen by Bowie Stare, almost hypnotized to compelled to keep watching. Maybe that how he has powers on the Venture Bros, he drains our souls for it. #videogamesales
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Odin
10/06/09

In reply to Almost Nobody Owns Just Macs
It'd be interesting to see how many of those Macs are running Windows as well.

Apple and OSX infuriate me sometimes though. Over the past few weeks 4 out of the 5 people in my household got iPod Touchs/iPhones (I'm the 5th). As I programmer I figured that since I have access to a wealth of dev machines now I might try some app programming. I then learn that Apple in their infinite wisdom (read: dickishness) have locked app development to OSX.

Well screw you Apple, I'm not interested enough in your platform to buy a new machine for.

END RANT
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CleverName
10/06/09

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3 in the home, no PCs. Windows can burn in Hell.
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Odin
10/06/09

@wrong: You'll have to show Windows around when it gets there.
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kitsuneconundrum
10/05/09

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make sense, all my mac friends straight up boot camp.
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mattbarrie
10/05/09

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Learn the meaning of the word "of".

15% of 12% = 1.8%
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frigg
10/05/09

@mattbarrie: that's exactly the point.

He writes "of the 12% of homes with a Mac, less than 2% are Mac-exclusive."

... the "of" means that the "12% of homes with a Mac" becomes 100% of the subset in which he's distinguishing between Mac-exclusive vs. Mac+PC.

100% (the 12% subset of homes with Macs) - 85% (the % of that subset with Mac + PC) = 15% (households that are Mac-only within the subset of homes that have at least one Mac).

Also, if you go beyond the math, doesn't it also make common sense: if only 2% of Mac-owning households were Mac exclusive, that would mean virtually everyone with a Mac would also have a PC. That doesn't seem to be true in real life, but an 85% (mixed) / 15% (exclusive) split among Mac owners is credible.
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frigg
10/05/09

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What am I missing?

John writes "of the 12% of homes with a Mac, less than 2% are Mac-exclusive."

But the study says "Of those 12 percent, nearly 85 percent also own a Windows-based PC."

Wouldn't that mean of the 12% of homes with a Mac, a little more than 15% are Mac-exclusive (not 2%)?
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HyperDrunk
10/05/09

@frigg: 85% of 12% = 2%, 12 * 0.15 = 1.8% exactly. It's a percentage of a percentage.

Another way of looking at that is 10.2% of homes with computers own both a MAC and a Windows based computer.
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cherring09
10/05/09

@frigg: 2% of total households that own a computer.
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frigg
10/05/09

@cherring09: exactly... 2% of total households.

But of the subset of households that own Macs (12% of total households, or 100% of households with Macs), if 85% of them also own PCs, that's 85% of 100% of the households with Macs, leaving 15% not 2% of the subset of households with Macs exclusively Mac.

No?
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HyperDrunk
10/05/09

@frigg: 15% of homes with macs, have only macs, would be correct, but that wasn't how it was read in the post. they were saying 85% of 12% which is why only 2% of total homes with computers have only Macs, not 85% of 100% mac households.
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frigg
10/05/09

@HyperDrunk: That's right. total homes. But what he said was "What's surprising (or not) is that of the 12% of homes with a Mac, less than 2% are Mac-exclusive."

(my emphasis. he didn't say total homes, he said homes with a mac, which gives the wrong stat).
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Septhinox
10/05/09

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I'm an admitted Apple fanboy, yet I understand the merits of owing Windows machines as well. You'd have to be stupid not to.
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hjustin93
10/05/09

In reply to Almost Nobody Owns Just Macs
I would love a mac, with Windows 7 on it.
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Yuppers: I love you
10/05/09

@hjustin93: There's an app for that.
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otko
10/05/09

In reply to Almost Nobody Owns Just Macs
Almost everyone I know has either a Mac and a Windows box or uses BootCamp/Virtual Machine software. There's still so much that Windows can do that OS X can't.
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Yuppers: I love you
10/05/09

@otko: Like get viruses?*

*Yes I know Macs can get viruses/worms too.
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HyperDrunk
10/05/09

@otko: I'm not aware of anything that macs can't do that windows can. though I know that windows has probably 100 different programs that do the same thing to maybe 1 on a mac, but still, the mac can do it!
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otko
10/05/09

@HyperDrunk:

Yesterday I wanted to watch an out of market football game that I couldn't get here in MN. Bootcamped into Vista and loaded up Sopcast/TVU Player. I've been looking for an OS X version of something like that for a bit but I can't seem to find anything like it-especially one that lets me record what I'm watching.

*And if you want some other examples-browse Lifehacker on a daily basis. You always see some nice software that they come across and the first sentence will read Windows Only. It's not all the time-they have others that say "OS X only/Linux only". One aspect I LOVE about OS X is the amount of freeware made for it. It's second to none (except linux, blah blah blah)
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Lizard_King
10/06/09

@HyperDrunk: I still use the Windows side of my Macbook for the handful of things I can't do on OSX. Most of it specific for hardware, but the big one is the app software for my Garmin - their software support for mac SUCKS - and Fusion doesn't run it well.

I know these are specific issues, and it has gotten a LOT better in recent years. I know basic users can get away with just mac, but to suggest that anyone can do anything they need to do on a mac is a bit shortsighted.
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Margatron
10/05/09

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See? Only 2% of us drink the Kool-Aid!
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infmom
10/05/09

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Hmm. Well, in this office there's one Mac laptop and one Mac desktop, two PC desktops and a Linux server. I guess that makes us ambidextrous.
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Monty
10/05/09

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Given the fact that Windows is regularly installed on Macs, typical Windows machines sometimes have OS X installed on it (Hackintosh), both platforms use (essentially) the same hardware, plus we have folks logging into virtual sessions (VMware, Citrix, Terminal Services, etc) -- I think this poll is somewhat meaningless. Right - households that have Macs often have other platforms available as well. Same is true for Windows households. Welcome to 2009.
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Patrick Howard
10/05/09

@Monty: I think this comment is somewhat meaningless. You're saying that households with macs often have a windows machine. And households with windows often have a mac? Yes, that would be true. If A=B then B=A. The fact of the matter is that 88% are exclusively one way while 2% are exclusively the other way. Whether they are a mac user with a windows machine or a windows user with a mac machine, they all fit into the mixed system household group. The group being emphasized here is the small number of people using ONLY macs.
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Monty
10/05/09

@Patrick Howard: I apologize that I was not clear, but what I am saying is that in a world moving entirely virtual with multiple types of computers in the house that this sort of poll is worthless. What did it tell me? Not a damn thing. But, if you got something out of it, more power to you.
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hamazasb
10/05/09

In reply to Almost Nobody Owns Just Macs
I am a blended household for a number of reasons. I have an Imac and Macbook for me, but for my two young sons, I bought basic PCs for their school work and gaming. And sadly, as much as I love my Macs, I had to also buy a windows system to do some gaming on. I'm not anti-PC -- in fact I'm a recent switch-over to Mac. I think both devices have good uses.
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