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    LG Preparing to Reveal Largest Retail OLED TV Next Month

    LG Puts 15-inch OLED Screen Into Production, Plans December Launch

    Reasonably Sized OLED TVs Stalled By Our Crappy Economy

    Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife

    LG Shows Off 19-Inch OLED Panel

    Sony Shows Off Completely Wireless OLED TV

    Hype Buster: Sony XEL-1 OLED Not the Perfect TV (We're Not Talking 'Bout Size, Either)

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    Image of maven2k maven2k
    08/30/09

    In reply to LG Preparing to Reveal Largest Retail OLED TV Next Month
    I thought the whole point of OLED was that they was going to be so much better and cheaper to make. Do I have this confused with something else or was there some unforeseen expense in making these that they didn't know about ahead of time?
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    08/30/09

    @maven2k: No one said they would be cheaper initially. The reason they are important is because they are the future of television which means they will eventually get cheaper. Currently, they are extremely expensive but have amazing picture quality.
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    Image of MyNameIsTooAwesome MyNameIsTooAwesome
    08/30/09

    In reply to LG Preparing to Reveal Largest Retail OLED TV Next Month
    I must be far behind the group but why are this OLED Tv's so hard to produce in big sizes. I mean, certinly price and public interest isn't so high outside the techie comunity, but if there's market for a 150" TV certainly there is for a 40 incher OLED tv
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    met2art promoted this comment MyNameIsTooAwesome was starred MyNameIsTooAwesome was unstarred
    Image of met2art met2art
    08/30/09

    @MyNameIsTooAwesome: It's not so much that making larger sizes is inherently difficult, it's that production yield varies greatly, thus increasing the cost exponentially as you attempt to create larger substrates for larger screens.

    Additionally, the organic compounds that produce color in OLED screens have different lifetimes, with the blue-producing organics having shorter lives by a factor of 10. While this may be acceptable for smallter devices that have quicker turnovers, such as cellphones and PMPs, people expect TVs to have longer lives without dramatic shifts in color saturation and purity.
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    08/30/09

    @MyNameIsTooAwesome:

    Then you are forgetting how long it took for LCD screens to take over the market (even though they are vastly superior). New technology like this takes at least 4 years to become decently cheap and then another 4 years before it wipes all other competitors off the map. You can't rush innovation.

    So I'll probably be picking up a 46" OLED TV for $1800 in the year 2015 or so.
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    Image of derilium derilium
    08/30/09

    @MyNameIsTooAwesome: I don't think that was one of the advantages. The advantages are extremely fast activation time, space saving (thin), and can be built to be curved (think about a surround 360 theater in the not-so-distant future). They've also made bendable OLED screens (featured on Giz, actually) Another problem is the lifespan... OLED can die fast.
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    32ndnote promoted this comment Edited by derilium at 08/30/09 2:10 PM derilium was starred derilium was unstarred
    Image of met2art met2art
    08/30/09

    @dagamer34: Cost was not the initial limiting factor in the adoption of LCD screens. The cost was already low due to the widespread use in laptops and other portable devices. Limitations of LCD for use in TVs and desktop monitors included abysmal refresh (or more properly defined as response time), poor dynamic contrast and backlighting issues that effect black levels.
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    Edited by met2art at 08/30/09 4:36 PM met2art was starred met2art was unstarred
    Image of Coulterboy Coulterboy
    08/30/09

    @derilium: Why in hell would I want a 360 degree theatre???!!! So I could always be missing something? Your facts are correct, but no, just no on that fantasy
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    Image of met2art met2art
    08/31/09

    @Coulterboy: So, implementations such as planetariums, flight and driving simulators, and battlefield simulators that test situational awareness... all that has to go? You do know these things already exist, yes? They just currently use rear-projection more often than not. As a result they suffer from spherical distortion that is difficult to overcome when projecting onto a non-planar surface.

    While perhaps not practical for home theater, 360 degree screens have many practical uses, as well as entertainment uses. Virtual reality "rides" being one of them, with a moving cab/platform and a 360 screen.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    08/06/09

    In reply to LG Puts 15-inch OLED Screen Into Production, Plans December Launch
    I would be surprised if Apple becomes the first company to produce an OLED laptop, for the same reasons that Apple is not the first company to produce OLED mp3 players. Apple doesn't want an expensive technology eating into their margins. Plus, people already view Apple as a premium brand, even when it comes to products in which their technology is similar to that of competitors.

    It's not a big deal that LG might supply screens to Apple in the future. LG already supplies screens to more computer companies than I can count. Any one of these companies could produce the first OLED laptop.
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    Edited by Hello Mister Walrus at 08/06/09 9:08 AM Hello Mister Walrus was starred Hello Mister Walrus was unstarred
    Image of TheSonOfKrypton TheSonOfKrypton
    08/06/09

    In reply to LG Puts 15-inch OLED Screen Into Production, Plans December Launch
    Doesn't OLED have PATHETIC light response? Apple will not put an (immature) technology into laptops that will effectively bar them from being used outside the four walls of a building.
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    Image of The Nacon The Nacon
    08/06/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Ha ha... I can easily tell that you really don't like OLED for no good reason. How's that pathetic? ;)
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment The Nacon was starred The Nacon was unstarred
    Image of Barry99705 Barry99705
    08/06/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: You mean other than that mirror they call a "glossy" screen?
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    Image of James Boswell James Boswell
    08/06/09

    @Barry99705: OLED display tech and glossy screens aren't intrinsically linked.
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment James Boswell was starred James Boswell was unstarred
    Image of Lukasz Fabis Lukasz Fabis
    08/06/09

    @Barry99705:
    I still don't get the issue with glossy screens. The range of angles where they're not usable is much narrower than a matte display, in my experiences. Oh sure, the glare is potentially sharper on a glossy display, but on a matte display, the screen just ends up saturated with fuzzy light even if the light's shining obliquely, given enough light.
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    Image of TheSonOfKrypton TheSonOfKrypton
    08/06/09

    @James Boswell: Win.
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    Image of Ninety-9 Ninety-9
    08/06/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: I'm trying to figure out what you mean by light response?
    Are you referring to response time, viewing angle, or brightness?
    -Response time should be quicker on an OLED because LCD screens have to physically move the colored crystals into alignment.
    -Viewing angle should be improved because OLEDs are a direct light source, once again, it's the crystal alignment that kills the viewing angle on LCD screens and causes color distortion.
    -Brightness should be improved as well, you get brighter whites and truer blacks because OLEDs are a direct light source.
    The only thing I have heard bad about OLEDs are their lifespan, but that was years ago, I'd imagine they were able to fix that. I wouldn't go so far as to call it an immature technology at this point. They're still improving LCDs and they've been popular for a little over a decade, now.
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    Image of TheSonOfKrypton TheSonOfKrypton
    08/06/09

    @Ninety-9: Ahhhhh, you seek to understand. I respect that mindset.
    I remember reading a users comments back in the day when the iPhone's 3GS specs were still being deduced and some sites were reporting it would sport an OLED screen. He made a rather convincing argument that the problem with OLED screens is that, in their present implementation, they wash out in direct sunlight, and, basically, don't give the same vibrant image that current LCD based iPhones give in direct sunlight at 100% brightness. I assumed he was right. Was he not?
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    Image of burningsensation burningsensation
    08/06/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: what's "light response?" and what does it have to do with pathos?
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    Image of antchil antchil
    03/10/09

    In reply to Reasonably Sized OLED TVs Stalled By Our Crappy Economy
    I don't think you got the sarcasm in MY post tard.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    03/10/09

    @antchil: My dad could beat up your dad.
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    Image of frigg frigg
    01/14/09

    In reply to Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife
    Those TV's look even smaller in real life. It's like a $2,500 TV the size of an adult hamster.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    01/14/09

    In reply to Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife
    You call that a knife?


    Photobucket


    This, is a knife.

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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee
    01/14/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: That ain't a knife, now this is a knife:
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    01/14/09

    @MayorMcRib_GitEmSteveDave: That's not a knife, that's a spoon.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    01/14/09

    @ripfire: Ha! I see you've played knify-spoony before.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    01/14/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: @MayorMcRib_GitEmSteveDave: Do you guys realize that we hardly make any references to the recent episodes of Simpsons?
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    01/14/09

    @ripfire: Don't remind me :'(
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    Kaiser-Machead was starred Kaiser-Machead was unstarred
    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee
    01/14/09

    @ripfire: Well, I attribute that to the fact that until they hit mass syndication, we only see them once or twice. It could also be denial.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    01/14/09

    In reply to Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife
    Let's see him chop that cucumber with the TV Chef Murimoto style.
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    01/14/09

    In reply to Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife
    Great, the TSA will be confiscating our XEL-1's and arresting us for attempting to smuggle weapons onto flights.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee
    01/14/09

    In reply to Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife
    Yeah, but you can't take it apart into 4 pieces. Bacteria will get in there. And I don't think I'll ever love this guys nuts. And this promises me "an exciting life". Does the TV?
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    Image of KingKorg KingKorg
    01/14/09

    @McRib_GitEmSteveDave: wtf cheese in a martini?
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee
    01/14/09

    @KingKorg: Cheese in a martini bothers you, but cheese in a bikini doesn't. Interesting.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    01/14/09

    @MayorMcRib_GitEmSteveDave: Hehe. Gross.
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    Image of ScottRose ScottRose
    01/14/09

    In reply to Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife
    Translation, in case you were wondering:


    [www.mintred.com]

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    Image of 1 DVS BSTD-Its off the Hizzle fo $hizzle My Dizzle 1 DVS BSTD-Its off the Hizzle fo $hizzle My Dizzle
    01/14/09

    @ScottRose:


    What's up with your links ?
    They're not funny, so just stop

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    1 DVS BSTD-Its off the Hizzle fo $hizzle My Dizzle was starred 1 DVS BSTD-Its off the Hizzle fo $hizzle My Dizzle was unstarred
    Image of ScottRose ScottRose
    01/15/09

    @Its off the Hizzle fo $hizzle My Dizzle ( Israël you're act...: What's up with you changing your name every 5 minutes? That's not funny either. Nor interesting.
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    Image of admoseremic admoseremic
    01/14/09

    In reply to Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife
    World's most expensive Chef's knife??


    I think not:

    thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelong...glast.com/expensive308.html">[thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelong......

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    Image of admoseremic admoseremic
    01/14/09

    @admoseremic: In case that link didn't work.
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    Image of Geisrud Geisrud
    01/14/09

    @admoseremic: I think the knife you linked may be the world's most expensive knife. But a chef's knife it is not.
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    Image of incubushead incubushead
    01/14/09

    In reply to Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife
    There was a starter cut in the cucumber. Im calling shenanigans on this.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee
    01/14/09

    @incubushead: Shenanigans, we have a call of shenanigans!
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    01/14/09

    @incubushead: The TV was so sharp that it began cutting even before it touched the cucumber.
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    01/14/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: This is where this is an obvious lie. We know that's a SONY, so it's obviously not a Sharp TV.
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    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was starred Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was unstarred
    Image of closhedbb closhedbb
    01/14/09

    @Lite: Ba-dum-ching!
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    01/14/09

    @Lite: Ohohoho aren't you a smart one.
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    Hello Mister Walrus was starred Hello Mister Walrus was unstarred
    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee
    01/14/09

    @closhedbb:
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    Image of SJRNWT SJRNWT
    01/14/09

    In reply to Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Is World's Most Expensive Chef's Knife
    What language is that?
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee
    01/14/09

    @SJRNWT: Man, I need me some Scandanavian gadget TV.


    I'm guessing Ikeaish.

     Reply
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