What does any of this matter? I still can't upconvert my dvd's over the component cables Sony swore to me 6 years ago would be the new enduring standard. Like anyone who is tech savvy enough to dub movies off their cable box would actually order an on demand movie anyway, when they can get it for free off of the torrents. #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
The MPAA's member companies want to release movies online before they hit theaters, not just DVD. This is something a lot of people have been asking them to do for a while.
But in order to do that, they want to be able to say "you can only watch this movie through a HDMI or HDCP connection from your cable/VoD box."
I don't think that is unreasonable. Most HDMI-enabled cable boxes already disable the analog outputs when you are using HDMI and the HDMI handshake fails, and the restriction as currently proposed by the MPAA would only apply when watching movies released before theaters. You aren't going to be place-shifting or time-shifting those movies via Sling or your DVR, because you'll order them on-demand from your Cable company, Amazon or iTunes and watch them right then.
As for those who may only have Component inputs on their TVs, well time to upgrade bitches. Hell, my old 2004-model CRT HDTV had an HDCP-enabled DVI input, and that was five years ago. And even if you don't want to upgrade, well you can just go see the movie in a theater like normal.
The only real issue I see with this is the "slippery slope" problem where first it'll just be for pre-theatrical movies, then it'll be for all on-demand titles, then it'll be for everything on cable. Honestly? I can't say I give a crap. By the time that happens, everyone who cares will have upgraded so that it won't affect their viewing habits at all. #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
Exactly. There's no way to win. The game itself is pointless! But back at the war room, they believe you can win a nuclear war. That there can be "acceptable losses."
Apply that Faulken quote to today:
Exactly. There's no way to win. The game itself is pointless! But back at the MPAA legal department, they believe they can win a piracy war. That there can be "acceptable losses." #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
So, when is the MPAA just going to admit they don't want our money? They seem to do everything possible to cut off their revenue streams. #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
@Xeno: I meant "communist" in the totalitarian, big-brother sense, for which the MPAA is a very good example. What Americans call "communism" has, in practice, little or nothing to do with socialism and is not the antithesis of capitalism. China, for example, is not really a communist country. It's a capitalist country with a single-party, totalitarian government. #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
Another reason that I am glad I don't pay for cable. I don't need anyone else controlling my stuff, I have enough issues controlling it for myself! #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
So...in other words I must buy a DVD or Blu-Ray player that was built between 1998 and the passing of this law. Then I can still pirate movies?
Don't they get the fact that most people use computer drives to make the copy? I don't know many people who are taking a Blu-ray movie and using the analog ports to copy it to VHS or DVD-R.
I guess, if I don't have the latest TV, but I have a late model disc player, I'm not allowed to watch any new movies.
It's amazing that I have to keep buying the latest stuff just to keep my shit legitimate. Remember when TVs used to last 10-20 years? I'm only 25 and I'm prefectly happy with my 52" Proscan from 1994. Picture's still great for 90% of the stuff I watch.
@ophmarketing: "Between" meaning from 1998 till ~2010 (assuming this passes). Blue ray falls within this time frame. I wanted to include all disc formats, which they seem to be intent on.
It seems they're focusing on the wrong crowd of people. By loading these new copy protections into NEW players, you're only helping me decide not to buy a new player. If it was announced that all new cars had a remote kill switch (*cough* OnStar) buried deep inside the computer, I wouldn't buy a new car. At the same time, people aren't making analog copies on their home theater equipment, they're making digital dubs and h.264 encoded videos right from their computer (with removal of copy protection and region stamps).
So, I see MPAA knows or learned nothing with DRM, right?
They are trying to introduce a useless standard that will only cause damage to honest people with the excuse everyone is a potential pirate.
Lots of people won't buy it because you'd have to spend too much money, it's offensive and an abuse. And ultimately pirates will find a way around, rendering it useless and a complete waste of money.
Hurray MPAA! I see you are still keeping that douchebag image alive!
@TrollSlayer: Hmm...I guess that is true of AA members. I mean, why else would they be there if they hadn't overconsumed alcohol? #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
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The MPAA's member companies want to release movies online before they hit theaters, not just DVD. This is something a lot of people have been asking them to do for a while.
But in order to do that, they want to be able to say "you can only watch this movie through a HDMI or HDCP connection from your cable/VoD box."
I don't think that is unreasonable. Most HDMI-enabled cable boxes already disable the analog outputs when you are using HDMI and the HDMI handshake fails, and the restriction as currently proposed by the MPAA would only apply when watching movies released before theaters. You aren't going to be place-shifting or time-shifting those movies via Sling or your DVR, because you'll order them on-demand from your Cable company, Amazon or iTunes and watch them right then.
As for those who may only have Component inputs on their TVs, well time to upgrade bitches. Hell, my old 2004-model CRT HDTV had an HDCP-enabled DVI input, and that was five years ago. And even if you don't want to upgrade, well you can just go see the movie in a theater like normal.
The only real issue I see with this is the "slippery slope" problem where first it'll just be for pre-theatrical movies, then it'll be for all on-demand titles, then it'll be for everything on cable. Honestly? I can't say I give a crap. By the time that happens, everyone who cares will have upgraded so that it won't affect their viewing habits at all. #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
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Apply that Faulken quote to today:
Exactly. There's no way to win. The game itself is pointless! But back at the MPAA legal department, they believe they can win a piracy war. That there can be "acceptable losses." #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
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@Identity (reclamation): #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
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Don't they get the fact that most people use computer drives to make the copy? I don't know many people who are taking a Blu-ray movie and using the analog ports to copy it to VHS or DVD-R.
I guess, if I don't have the latest TV, but I have a late model disc player, I'm not allowed to watch any new movies.
It's amazing that I have to keep buying the latest stuff just to keep my shit legitimate. Remember when TVs used to last 10-20 years? I'm only 25 and I'm prefectly happy with my 52" Proscan from 1994. Picture's still great for 90% of the stuff I watch.
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"I must buy a DVD or Blu-Ray player that was built between 1998 and the passing of this law." #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
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It seems they're focusing on the wrong crowd of people. By loading these new copy protections into NEW players, you're only helping me decide not to buy a new player. If it was announced that all new cars had a remote kill switch (*cough* OnStar) buried deep inside the computer, I wouldn't buy a new car. At the same time, people aren't making analog copies on their home theater equipment, they're making digital dubs and h.264 encoded videos right from their computer (with removal of copy protection and region stamps).
What they're doing is patching a tiny pinhole in a boat that has been cut in half. #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
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They are trying to introduce a useless standard that will only cause damage to honest people with the excuse everyone is a potential pirate.
Lots of people won't buy it because you'd have to spend too much money, it's offensive and an abuse. And ultimately pirates will find a way around, rendering it useless and a complete waste of money.
Hurray MPAA! I see you are still keeping that douchebag image alive!
Give a hug to your friend RIAA and buy yourselves a cake. #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
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Here is how to bypass HDCP
[hackaday.com]
You need a soldering iron and a InstaPort switch #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
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Can we vote on this? #selectableoutputcontrolmpaa
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