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    12TB DVDs Could Be On The Way

    Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
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    Image of frigg frigg
    05/20/09

    In reply to 12TB DVDs Could Be On The Way
    So this new storage technology uses gold.


    Pirates like gold.


    Pirates like storage.


    I can see where this is going...

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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    05/20/09

    @frigg: So, would this be the natural progression for orders of magnitude of data:


    megabyte

    gigabyte

    terabyte

    mateybyte

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    Image of Monty Monty
    05/20/09

    In reply to 12TB DVDs Could Be On The Way
    Now if only people would stop moving to online media, maybe there would be a market for it whenever they figure out how to make a product based on this concept. Seriously, I am sure there would be plenty of great uses for it, but it does seem a little out of date given the direction of the media market these days.
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    Image of mGARANDEUR1 mGARANDEUR1
    05/20/09

    In reply to 12TB DVDs Could Be On The Way
    Sweet. With an 18X DVD burner it will only take over 9000 hours to burn one!
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    Image of SegamanXero SegamanXero
    05/20/09

    @mGARANDEUR1: O_o


    "Vagita what does the computer say about DVD burning time?"


    Breaks LCD screen "ITS OVER 9000 HOURS"


    "What! OVER 9000!"

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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    05/20/09

    In reply to 12TB DVDs Could Be On The Way
    Am I misreading this or should it be 1.1TB/cm2 (not cm3), since DVDs are flat?
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    05/20/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: They probably do mean "cubed" since this recording process includes a significant element of depth, i.e., it's based not on area but on a volume with three axes. Now, whether or not the "DVD" would look thicker, can't say yet.
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    05/20/09

    @bosskev: 1... 2... 3... 4... 5


    OK, anyone ELSE wanna jump in and say the same thing???


    ;^)

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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    05/20/09

    @bosskev: The abstract, interestingly, describes the recording process as "five-dimensional" - three spatial dimensions, one wavelength dimension and one polarization dimension. It seems like this would enable infinite layers of recording if resolution was infinite (which of course it is not).


    Anyway, to my untrained mind, it seems strange to describe this kind of medium as volume-based, since depth is so much more constraining than surface area. You cannot have 1 cm-thick DVDs, for instance, so the size of your storage medium will always be dominated by how long/wide it is.


    Or maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way. I'm not a micro-laser-disc, um engineering person by any means.

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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    05/20/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: "...so the size of your storage medium will always be dominated by how long/wide it is."


    EVERYTHING is dominated by how long/wide it is.

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    05/20/09

    In reply to 12TB DVDs Could Be On The Way

    "...they predict that it will be a write once, read forever medium."


    I'd think that "forever" part is a wee bit optimistic, but I'd be hopeful for at least a couple of decades.

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    Image of Software_Goddess Software_Goddess
    05/20/09

    In reply to 12TB DVDs Could Be On The Way
    I guess they did not get the memo about '2 objects can not occupy the same spot in time/space'
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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    05/21/09

    @Software_Goddess: My friend... if they can have two girls in one cup then anything is possible. Dare to dream friend, dare to dream.
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    Image of discounteggroll discounteggroll
    02/04/09

    In reply to Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
    sony had to offload their surplus of MD's somehow...
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    02/04/09

    In reply to Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
    Aaaah MiniDisc, great with recording...but also a major pain in the ass.
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    Image of frigg frigg
    02/04/09

    In reply to Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
    the only way this thing could be successful is if there were some sort of user-fee tacked on whenever you bought one, in addition to the price, and every time you used it, your credit card was charged an additional user fee, and all data stored on it used some sort of DRM that required a subscription fee to allow access, and any time you looked at it, your eyeballs popped out of your head, and in order to put them back in your face you had to pay the company some sort of eyeball replacement fee. Otherwise, it's hard to imagine this thing catching on.
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    Image of MartinLeGood MartinLeGood
    02/04/09

    In reply to Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
    Ok, this idea is stupid. But there is a lot to improve on flsh drives
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    Image of frigg frigg
    02/04/09

    @martinS60: No, my friend. Any drive made out of a fish is perfect.
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    Image of strider_mt2k strider_mt2k
    02/04/09

    In reply to Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
    Indeed.


    Covered with feces.


    Go bury it under a tree.

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    Image of Serolf Divad Serolf Divad
    02/04/09

    In reply to Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
    Wow, this thing makes about as much sense as purposefully getting yourself infected with herpes to see what it's like. Probably make you about as popular, too.
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    Image of ZaxxonQ.com ZaxxonQ.com
    02/04/09

    In reply to Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
    AWW! But it's so tiny and CUTE!!! ^_^
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    Image of @prixdc @prixdc
    02/04/09

    In reply to Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
    Looks like a smaller version of a MiniDisc, another format (albeit audio) that failed miserably.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    02/04/09

    @le_prix: MiniDisc might have been ok if not for MP3s.
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    Image of OMG! Bacon! OMG! Bacon!
    02/04/09

    In reply to Vmedia: Like Mini UMD for Netbooks Covered in Feces, But Worse
    Wow, this is sad....unless it has substantially better read/write time than SDHC or the mini version....this is a total waste of time. Why the hell do I want more moving parts in my *insert gadget here*?
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    02/04/09

    @phoenix27: You know as they say, if it rhymes with chlamydia, it's likely not a good thing.
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