I'm more excited to see this on a MacBook Pro than the tablet.
So is the fiberoptic cable paired with a regular wire to allow for charging? As far as I know, light can't charge a device, unless Apple has decided the laws of physics has gotten in their way for long enough, and they are finally going to do something about it.
"Apple went to Intel and adopted USB for its original iMac...it made USB extremely popular."
So, if I am reading this article properly, it sounds like USB would not have been a success without Apple. All those PC's running out there would never have had the connectivity of USB if it were not for Apple??? Hmmm, I call bullshit on this one.
Now, I do like the concept of this, assuming that the cables can be rugged enough. I use fiber cables for various applications and they do ok but I do have concerns and have had some connections break do to improper handling. Hopefully they can make something that is as simple as USB with the speed of a direct connection to the controller of your choice...
@andrelix: Apple helped USB become mainstream for sure. Prior to the iMac, peripheral makers were content on continuing to crank out PS/2 mice and keyboards, parallel port printers, serial port modems and so on. Microsoft was also slow to adopt it, with Windows 98 being the first consumer OS to kinda have support for it.
I remember seeing USB ports show up on new Gateway machines in 1997. But nothing used them, including Gateways own included keyboard and mouse.
The popularity of the first iMac definitely helped push the adoption of USB. Manufacturers finally started making USB devices, and eventually the PC world started buying them too.
@andrelix: Your fanboyish post shows complete ignorance of the market during those days. While there were PCs with USB ports before Apple's iMac, there were no USB peripherals in the market. Companies kept building RS232, PS/2, and parallel ports shit for PCs, and showed no interest for USB. The iMac kickstarted the USB market because it had NO other port. It made it huge, with hundreds of peripherals coming in bondi blue and USB ports only. Then PC users started to buy those peripherals too.
Not to talk about the fact that Intel has publicly credited Apple with USB's success, thanks to the original iMac.
@Cliff_Dangers: They did. You fail to remember just how BIG the iMac was.
Much of Apples continued hype comes from what was basically a second coming of Apple. The iMac was 1984 all over again for the company, and peoples perception of the company.
There was bondi colored EVERYTHING, even non-computer products like vacuums. Anything hip in 98-99 had to have i in lowercase in front of it.
And yes making a computer that had ONLY USB and NO floppy really did change the computer market and made perheptual manufacturers get away from using serial/ADB/parallel/and PS/2 ports.
It wasnt instantaneous, but the iMac did make it happen.
@Jim Topoleski: Fanboy "BIG" does not equal Market Share "BIG". Apple does desreves credit for initiating the USB standard as viable, but it is a big stretch to say they made it happen. MS adopting the technology made it happen.
@Jim Topoleski: It's spliting hairs, but the point I am making is that unless your goal was to be "small company", the ultimate intent of manufacturers was to have their products embraced by M$ users.
@Jesus Diaz: Whoa there big boy, who is the fanboi? FWIW, I now have more macs in my house than PC's and my main box is a Mac Pro that runs both Windows 7 and OS/X. My point is nicely summed up below by Cliff_Dangers that 3.1% market share does not redefine an industry. The reality is that many of these peripherals started to gain market share AFTER windows acceptance of USB and more specifically after USB 2.0 which really became the usable standard.
I suppose these could also work as a step in between CAT6 and Fiber Optic Network cables right? Well it should seeing as it has Fiber in it (for speed anyway)... i wonder how expensive it would be to run these through walls of a house...
If we're still talking about this years after USB came into existence, it will never ever happen.
Universal Serial Bus, people. It's right in the name. USB was already supposed to be the "one port to rule them all". But as with anything in the tech industry, good luck getting everyone to agree.
@thepeopleselbow: People. Doesn't matter how good a technology is, you will never, and I mean never get every single device manufacturer and peripheral maker to sign off on a single standard that has even the tiniest bit of money attached to it.
Sony alone will likely screw this up by still pushing HDMI. You know, because they want DRM and content control built-in to the wires they used to hook up monitors and TVs. Not a chance in hell they'll just up and go with LightPeak for all their video needs and hand Apple the reigns.
lets skip the creation of another cable standard and head to a wireless device standard. nobody wants more cables in their life and bluetooth has yet to be widely adopted for anything but cell headsets.
@atenrok: I had terrible DirecTV reception. After months of complaining they lowered a gigabit ethernet cable from their Galaxy 3C satellite to my house. Problem solved!
It's a genetically enhanced unicorn currently possesing the hexagontal prism of wonder. It will one day release the energies from this crystal and destroy Microsoft with a large, blinding flash of light. This unicorn will then give Steve Jobs a pony ride around Bill Gates corpse
@macpatrick: Considering how Apple was with 3.0Gbp/s SATA, who knows. The problem with this tech is that there is no hardware anywhere near close enough to support this kind of speed. I'm sure that the only way they got it to transfer so fast on the Mac Pro was because they were transferring from one SSD striped RAID array to another with PCI-E RAID cards as an intermediary.
@Nathan Obbards: True, but if we stuck with that logic we would be stuck with the same speeds.
And I don't really see that as the big obstacle they have to overcome here. People are so comfortable with the ports they have now. They know their camera uses USB, they plug their display into that one, and their internet goes into that one. People are comfortable with their ports and replacing it with something new might not catch on because people are just too comfortable with what they are using now.
I on the other hand think this is brilliant. After sorting through my box of tangled, unsorted cables I've often thought, "why the fuck can't there just be one cable that does all this shit. It's 2009." There all essentially doing the same thing. So I think it's the future and I hope it takes over the USB standard. It'll be hard, but I think they can do it.
@macpatrick: Oh, I'm not saying it's pointless, just saying that its utility is not fully developed right now. HDDs are always the weakest link in a computer and most SSDs are too expensive to economically purchase in large enough quantities to gain any benefit from light peak. I'm completely behind innovation, I just wonder how useful such an innovation will be in the short run especially given the question of durability of optical cables and their dramatically decreased efficiency when bent beyond a certain radius.
If they can consolidate all the ports into one and not run into any buffer issues or issues with speed tapering off as well as being able to ensure durability of the product, I'm all for it. I just do not want it to be something that you cannot just toss in your bag and go without having to replace it every month or two.
It sounds incredibly interesting, I just wonder about the long term durability of it. Additionally, cable management in your box will become even more crucial than before due to optical cables drastically losing efficiency when bent beyond a certain radius.
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So is the fiberoptic cable paired with a regular wire to allow for charging? As far as I know, light can't charge a device, unless Apple has decided the laws of physics has gotten in their way for long enough, and they are finally going to do something about it.
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"Apple went to Intel and adopted USB for its original iMac...it made USB extremely popular."
So, if I am reading this article properly, it sounds like USB would not have been a success without Apple. All those PC's running out there would never have had the connectivity of USB if it were not for Apple??? Hmmm, I call bullshit on this one.
Now, I do like the concept of this, assuming that the cables can be rugged enough. I use fiber cables for various applications and they do ok but I do have concerns and have had some connections break do to improper handling. Hopefully they can make something that is as simple as USB with the speed of a direct connection to the controller of your choice...
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I remember seeing USB ports show up on new Gateway machines in 1997. But nothing used them, including Gateways own included keyboard and mouse.
The popularity of the first iMac definitely helped push the adoption of USB. Manufacturers finally started making USB devices, and eventually the PC world started buying them too.
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Not to talk about the fact that Intel has publicly credited Apple with USB's success, thanks to the original iMac.
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Much of Apples continued hype comes from what was basically a second coming of Apple. The iMac was 1984 all over again for the company, and peoples perception of the company.
There was bondi colored EVERYTHING, even non-computer products like vacuums. Anything hip in 98-99 had to have i in lowercase in front of it.
And yes making a computer that had ONLY USB and NO floppy really did change the computer market and made perheptual manufacturers get away from using serial/ADB/parallel/and PS/2 ports.
It wasnt instantaneous, but the iMac did make it happen.
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You had to patch Win 98 to use USB. Even OS 9 allowed you to use USB without drivers for all but particular devices.
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I can see it on the Apple tablet and macs of next year!
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If we're still talking about this years after USB came into existence, it will never ever happen.
Universal Serial Bus, people. It's right in the name. USB was already supposed to be the "one port to rule them all". But as with anything in the tech industry, good luck getting everyone to agree.
Especially rallying behind Apple.
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This technology is a speed boost, why won't that sell?
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Sony alone will likely screw this up by still pushing HDMI. You know, because they want DRM and content control built-in to the wires they used to hook up monitors and TVs. Not a chance in hell they'll just up and go with LightPeak for all their video needs and hand Apple the reigns.
No. Friggin. Way.
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uhm... so how does satellite uplink work then?
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And I don't really see that as the big obstacle they have to overcome here. People are so comfortable with the ports they have now. They know their camera uses USB, they plug their display into that one, and their internet goes into that one. People are comfortable with their ports and replacing it with something new might not catch on because people are just too comfortable with what they are using now.
I on the other hand think this is brilliant. After sorting through my box of tangled, unsorted cables I've often thought, "why the fuck can't there just be one cable that does all this shit. It's 2009." There all essentially doing the same thing. So I think it's the future and I hope it takes over the USB standard. It'll be hard, but I think they can do it.
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If they can consolidate all the ports into one and not run into any buffer issues or issues with speed tapering off as well as being able to ensure durability of the product, I'm all for it. I just do not want it to be something that you cannot just toss in your bag and go without having to replace it every month or two.
We'll just have to wait and see.
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Exactly. Too little is know right now.
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