osx1056 - Gizmodo

posts about #osx1056 more →
Everything You Need to Know About Snow Leopard
Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak

Your version of Internet Explorer is not supported. Please upgrade to the most recent version in order to view comments.

Dsmvwl Admin Promote to frontpage Approve user Ban user ×

Mathyc
06/08/09

In reply to Everything You Need to Know About Snow Leopard
$29... that's like free ... C'mon Windows, show us your heart.
Reply

Mathyc was starred Mathyc was unstarred

sneakypoo
06/08/09

@jeroenstuyts: Maybe when they have their own hardware tied into the OS as well.
Reply

sneakypoo was starred sneakypoo was unstarred

ripfire
06/08/09

@sneakypoo: Or when I can install OSX on a PC.
Reply

ripfire was starred ripfire was unstarred

Bryan Eaton
06/08/09

@ripfire:

you can... it's called a hackintosh...
Reply

Bryan Eaton was starred Bryan Eaton was unstarred

ripfire
06/08/09

@Bryan Eaton: Seriously?

2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.

A. Single Use. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so.

[images.apple.com]
Reply

ripfire was starred ripfire was unstarred

Patrick Lerner
06/08/09

In reply to Everything You Need to Know About Snow Leopard
it's not Windows 7. 'nuf said.
Reply

Patrick Lerner was starred Patrick Lerner was unstarred

Dillinger23
06/08/09

@Patrick Lerner: Yes and thank god for that.
Reply

Dillinger23 was starred Dillinger23 was unstarred

Kaiser-Machead
06/08/09

@Dillinger23: Well I'm pretty amused :D
Reply

Kaiser-Machead was starred Kaiser-Machead was unstarred

MichelleDatsun
06/08/09

In reply to Everything You Need to Know About Snow Leopard
They didn't say whether PPC is supported!
Reply

MichelleDatsun was starred MichelleDatsun was unstarred

ripfire
06/08/09

@MichelleDatsun: Sorry buddy. Particle Projectile Cannons are not supported.
Reply

ripfire was starred ripfire was unstarred

Xjep
06/08/09

In reply to Everything You Need to Know About Snow Leopard
$29 and the air price drop are the best things so far.

Microsoft your turn lets see you beat $29
Reply

Xjep was starred Xjep was unstarred

ttk2
06/08/09

@Xjep: Microsoft can not beat that price. Why? because Microsoft does not make a 50% (or more) profit margin on everything they make.
Reply

ttk2 was starred ttk2 was unstarred

rip
06/08/09

@ttk2: No, with Microsoft software, the margin is more like >100%
Reply

rip was starred rip was unstarred

Patrick Lerner
06/08/09

@rip: Microsoft is a SOFTWARE Retailer. Apple on the other hand makes most of their money in HARDWARE. You really can't compare the two. But to be short: Apple already gets a lot of money in from hardware sales so they can offer software which only runs on their systems for a discount (on the end of the day they get that discount in from the apple tax on hardware sales). MS can't do that. They just get the software price. I think something like 50$-75$ for a Vista->Win7 Upgrade would be a fair deal.
Reply

Patrick Lerner was starred Patrick Lerner was unstarred

shadow763
06/08/09

@Patrick Lerner: That would be a fair upgrade price for MS, but its not going to happen. I really want to get Win 7 but I have a hard tine actually doing it when I will have to pay a bunch for the version I want.

29 for me to upgrade to Snow Leopard is so nice I can barely contain myself. Ill even do the family pack just because the price is so great.
Reply

shadow763 was starred shadow763 was unstarred

ripfire
06/08/09

@shadow763: The point he is making is that Apple can afford to put out $29 for Snow Leopard because for you to install it, you would need to have a Mac. It's not the same as me trying to build my own rig and put in OSX without breaking their EULA.
Reply

ripfire was starred ripfire was unstarred

rip
06/08/09

In reply to Everything You Need to Know About Snow Leopard
$29 for Snow Leopard!?!

How much is Windows 7?
Reply

rip was starred rip was unstarred

ripfire
06/08/09

@rip: Check the system requirements: 1) Mac.
Reply

ripfire was starred ripfire was unstarred

Pwnguins
06/08/09

@ripfire:

OK.

$649 laptop (4GB RAM, etc)

+$99 (Windows 7)

______

$748

Or,

$1499 (Mac laptop, don't know the specs)

+$39

______

$1538

(Just sayin')

(Note that I actually like Macs).
Reply

Pwnguins was starred Pwnguins was unstarred

ripfire
06/08/09

@OMG! Penguins!: The Macbooks are good. As far as desktops, I'd rather build my own and install OSX (well, actually I would have triple boot). I could probably "unofficially" go with a hackintosh, but its so picky with hardware and involves so much hassle.
Reply

ripfire was starred ripfire was unstarred

tamoko
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
Well this is a royal turd... But it makes sense, at least from a branding and intellectual property perspective. Let's hope the Dev Team gets cracking ob this fast.. I can't live without my cracked apps and Doom on the train.
Reply

tamoko was starred tamoko was unstarred

frigg
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
Given that Apple is in a stated cat and mouse war with jailbreakers, why would anyone be surprised when the cat swipes its paw at the mouse? if you're going to cat-and-mouse with a wily mouse, you might as well be a wily cat.
Reply

frigg was starred frigg was unstarred

JeffEd
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
I'm so fed up with them. I'm glad I sold their stock when I did. They're going to start sinking before too long. They piss everyone off, and they have become far more obsessed with form that function. D**NIT!
Reply

JeffEd was starred JeffEd was unstarred

madog
12/16/08

@JeffEd: This is a perfect example of how Apple is obsessed with function in a bad way. If they weren't, then you could install Leopard on any $100 box and feel free to run any application on their phone to reduce battery life and otherwise mess with it's intended design and functions.
Reply

madog was starred madog was unstarred

Kyle Garrett Adams
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
good. iphone is perfect the way it is in the first place. no need to jailbreak it.
Reply

Kyle Garrett Adams was starred

Voyou_Charmant
12/16/08

@Den-O:

Prop 8 passes:

Kyle Garrett Adams

12:42 AM

good. marriage is perfect the way it is in the first place. no need to gaybreak it.
Reply

Voyou_Charmant was starred Voyou_Charmant was unstarred

Joe Rider
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
this is why I can never go mac.. despite running a bit better and looking sleeker, they don't let you mess with anything.. god forbid we modify their perfect product..
Reply

Joe Rider was starred Joe Rider was unstarred

madog
12/16/08

@Joe Rider: Well it's a good thing you don't have a Mac and an iPhone that's jailbroken because this only affects those people.
Reply

madog was starred madog was unstarred

-daddy-
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
This is almost as wasteful as the war on drugs.
Reply

-daddy- was starred -daddy- was unstarred

ALT
12/16/08

@-daddy-: Let's make a PWNAGE CZAR!!! hahahaha
Reply

ALT was starred ALT was unstarred

Voyou_Charmant
12/16/08

@ALT:

Seriously, Dev Team, appoint someone with this title. Release faux press conferences on youtube, etc... It's brilliant.
Reply

Voyou_Charmant was starred Voyou_Charmant was unstarred

ab3
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
Wow I think this is the first time I have ever said that I am glad I have a pc with XP.
Reply

ab3 was starred ab3 was unstarred

madog
12/16/08

@ab3: What a great and stupid reason to not like Apple. There are plenty of other perfectly good reasons to dislike them but you have chosen the most idiotic.
Reply

madog was starred madog was unstarred

Roxas13th
12/16/08

@ab3: XP rocks, but nothing really to do with this..
Reply

Roxas13th was starred Roxas13th was unstarred

Voyou_Charmant
12/16/08

@madog: I don't think he actually said he hates Apple, but that he is glad he is running XP, the two are not mutually exclusive.

When I read this, I said to myself "what dicks, i'm glad I have XP". And, really, this seems like a pretty ok reason to have negative feelings towards Apple. It's a totally unnecessary dick move on their part.

The whole fight against jailbreaking borders on silly; they should know by now that they simply will not stop this from happening and will likely only alienate people, like myself, who are interested in getting a Mac if it weren't for their unreasonable pricing.
Reply

Voyou_Charmant was starred Voyou_Charmant was unstarred

Voyou_Charmant
12/16/08

@Roxas13th: Fact.
Reply

Voyou_Charmant was starred Voyou_Charmant was unstarred

Dara Moghaddam
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
I effing hate Apple, haha, glad I don't own a mac
Reply

Dara Moghaddam was starred Dara Moghaddam was unstarred

madog
12/16/08

@Dara Moghaddam: Yes, because a company trying to protect their assets is evil and horrible. Fail Troll fails.
Reply

madog was starred madog was unstarred

Colin Bean
12/16/08

@madog: Yes, because a company that claims so much openness and a model that "isn't Windows" is doing exactly what Microsoft used to do: tie everything together in a neat little package and hold it. If Microsoft had a phone and did this, everyone would be raving about how bad it was, but since it's Apple, it must be OK.
Reply

Colin Bean was starred Colin Bean was unstarred

madog
12/16/08

@Colin Bean: Apple has never been about openness and always about closed system tied in only to their hardware. Otherwise, Leopard would legally be allowed to be installed on non-Apple hardware, and Apple wouldn't have put an end to clones. They didn't even want to make their first computer with ports as to not allow people to even plug in third party hardware to their systems.

They refuse to be like Windows in that they close their software up so they don't have to worry about supporting 100 different hardware manufacturers. It has always been as such and none of this should really surprise anyone.
Reply

madog was starred madog was unstarred

madog
12/16/08

@madog: Windows used to prevent other web browsers from being installed on their OS. While that may be somewhat similar to this, Apple is merely not allowing unauthorized software on their phone as they have already allowed third party software on it through the App store; ultimately they're attempting to prevent the unauthorized use of unlocking the iPhone as to protect their and AT&T's assets, which is done also through the Ownage tools but hasn't been perfected for the 3G (yet). This is just a quick and easy method for them to counter the devteam's inevitable goal.

I'm not saying I condone Apple here (though it doesn't affect me), but I'm just trying to explain that this doesn't seem strange or unusual to me as it has always been Apple's stance. As I replied to another post, there are plenty of perfectly good reasons to not like Apple. This reason just seems stupid and moot as it has always been.
Reply

madog was starred madog was unstarred

Darthvinder
12/16/08

@madog:

Hmm, 27 replies. Apparently Fail Troll Succeeds.
Reply

Darthvinder was starred Darthvinder was unstarred

reluttr
12/16/08

@Darthvinder: obviously your the troll. I mean HOW else did your comment add to the debate?
Reply

reluttr was starred reluttr was unstarred

Darthvinder
12/16/08

@reluttr:

Erm, what debate? I agreed that it was a troll and it did a pretty good job of attracting passionate responses from people from something as stupid as "lol apple sux." And it's a valid response to someone saying "fail troll fails," because apparently the dude did a pretty good job at trolling.
Reply

Darthvinder was starred Darthvinder was unstarred

Earlier discussions Other discussions Show all discussions Show featured discussions only Start a new discussion

#osx1056

Gizmodo

Gizmodo Team

SUBSCRIBE TO Gizmodo

Everything You Need to Know About Snow Leopard

Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak

Login

Reset Password

Register

Submit Your Comment