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    Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card

    Fatal1ty Teams With Fusion-io For Lower-Priced 80GB ioXtreme PCI Express SSD

    640GB Flash Hard Drive For a Paltry $19,000
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    Image of jrblackman006 jrblackman006
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    I am going to get one of these and a USB 3.0 mouse.
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    10/31/09

    @jrblackman006: Well done sir. Welcome to Gizmodo. #usb30
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    Gimme a low profile card PCI-E x1, and I might bite. Otherwise, I'll probably just stick with eSATA. #usb30
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    Image of whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII
    10/31/09

    @dagamer34: Judging by my skimming of the article, ASUS went with PCI-E x4 instead of x1 because of bandwidth issues.

    But maybe I'm misreading. Last night was a loooooong night. #usb30
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    Image of Peregrinvs Peregrinvs
    11/01/09

    @whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII: It wasn't /that/ long.

    Also, when you swap up to a better mouse, I get your old one. ;] #usb30
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    11/02/09

    @Peregrinvs: Like hell. My mouse cannot get any better.

    Unless I find a mouse that can make nachos and pizza and get me a soda/whiskey/both, while I still use it to frag nOObs. Is that part of USB 3.0, or will I have to wait for 4.0? #usb30
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    Image of Peregrinvs Peregrinvs
    11/02/09

    @whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII: Then just give me your soul so I can convince Intel to give me a chipset with DDR5 ram and a couple of those fancy PCIE 2.0 SSDs.

    =D You've gotta be worth somethin', right? #usb30
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    Image of B-low B-low
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    I don't know... I don't think I would sacrifice a PCI-E slot just for a couple of USB 3 ports. Most motherboards are likely to have a surplus of SATA ports in which case it would be easier to just install some SATA to eSATA converters. The existing SATA standard already nets you 3Gbps which isn't too much slower than USB 3.0's 4.8Gbps.
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    Image of M1A1D M1A1D
    10/31/09

    @B-low: True, but you can't beat the plug-and-play convenience. Which would you rather trust granny to plug in: a USB device or an eSATA device? #usb30
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    Image of B-low B-low
    10/31/09

    @M1A1D: I'd give a granny a wireless mouse and watch while she tried to plug it in. #usb30
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    Image of Counterglow Counterglow
    10/31/09

    @B-low: @B-low: I have to disagree a little here. 3Gbps vs 4.8Gbps is a transfer speed difference of more than 60%. That's pretty significant, I think.

    I still agree generally...it's tough to sacrifice a PCI-E slot when you'll have lots of extra SATA ports. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Counterglow: If you're already transferring at 3gbps, it's hard to imagine having a file large enough for the 4.8 gbps to make a big difference. Well, on a domestic computer, at least. I guess it's the difference between a 30 second transfer, and a 20 second transfer. But that's still not much. #usb30
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    Image of christopher.feller001 christopher.feller001
    10/31/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Most of the time you're probably going to be transferring data from an internal drive with an interface speed of 3.0Gbps to an external USB drive. So you're still capped at 3.0Gbps regardless of the fact the USB interface speed is 4.8Gbps.

    Plus, I imagine there is some overhead anyway translating from SATA to USB 3.0.

    SATA and eSATA are just two different physical interfaces. They both use SATA commands.
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    FigNinja promoted this comment Pope John Peeps II approved this comment christopher.feller001 was starred christopher.feller001 was unstarred
    Image of EQC EQC
    10/31/09

    @Counterglow: Shouldn't we first determine how much of that 4.8 Gbps is available in the real world?

    High speed USB 2.0 is rated at 480 Mbps = 60 MB/s...but in the real world, you're lucky to be able to get half of that. As I understand it, the real-world limit is due to overhead, extra processing, etc. in the spec. I've never seen any device that can actually transfer even 45 MB/s over USB 2.0.

    Do we know if the 4.8 Gbps is going to actually be achievable? #usb30
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    Image of M1A1D M1A1D
    10/31/09

    @B-low: That's why you don't get sugar cookies when you go visit Nana! #usb30
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    Image of rentahero1 rentahero1
    10/31/09

    @Counterglow: Seeing as only the most elite RAM-based "hard drive" devices can even think of touching 3Gbps currently, forget it. 4.8 isn't gonna happen for you. #usb30
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    Image of Sneaky0 Sneaky0
    10/31/09

    @B-low: 3Gbps and 4.8Gps are both great speeds, but what devices are there that's capable of those speeds. #usb30
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    Image of B-low B-low
    10/31/09

    @Sneaky0: Right now nothing that I'm aware of. Some NAS setups in RAID are well capable of write speeds in excess of 500MBps or over 4Gbps but I think at those thresholds you begin to see bottle necks all over the place. I'm not sure if many CPUs can handle data transfer at that rate. #usb30
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    Image of PanhandleJoe PanhandleJoe
    10/31/09

    @B-low: It *will* matter when things like card readers, still cameras, and camcorders, etc. start coming along with USB 3.0 support. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @PanhandleJoe: Support and read/write speeds are not the same thing. #usb30
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    Image of Sneaky0 Sneaky0
    10/31/09

    @B-low: That's what I meant. Without a raid setup or similar, reaching those speeds are nearly impossible. Also the average users don't even know what a raid is. It's great having a connection that's capable of those speeds, but until manufacturers start making fast disks at consumer prices. These connections are somewhat useless in the real world. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Sneaky0: Agreed! #usb30
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    Image of Iggy Iggy
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    Are there ANY USB 3.0 devices right now? #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Iggy: Of course their is, we all know about those pci cards thats asus is selling... #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Iggy: .... asus had a test usb 3.0 drive and going from 2.0-3.0 did increase transfer rates quite a bit

    [www.pcper.com] #usb30
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    Image of Daniel Parmelee Daniel Parmelee
    06/07/09

    In reply to Fatal1ty Teams With Fusion-io For Lower-Priced 80GB ioXtreme PCI Express SSD
    That guy has just totally whored out his name. They'll slap it on anything these days...and most of the products are garbage.
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    Image of bitgod bitgod
    06/07/09

    @Daniel Parmelee:

    So you're saying a Fatal1ty condom would be a FAIL?
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    Image of Mint137 Mint137
    06/07/09

    @bitgod: I guess it would make it more EXTREME.
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    06/08/09

    @Mint137: Or maybe an EXTREME FAIL! (audio cue: cranky baby crying)
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    Image of Neso Mumi Neso Mumi
    06/07/09

    In reply to Fatal1ty Teams With Fusion-io For Lower-Priced 80GB ioXtreme PCI Express SSD
    lol

    for 800$ go buy your self 6 1Tb HDD's, put them in RAID 0. and you will have 6TRB of storage and acces and write speed aroung 600-800 MB/s.

    Big waste of money
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    Image of Cuw Cuw
    06/07/09

    @Neso Mumi: The seek times won't be at all comparable neither will the read speeds.
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    Image of MoN MoN
    06/07/09

    @Cuw: yeah it would
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    Image of Cuw Cuw
    06/07/09

    @OMG! MoN!: The seek time of drives does not decrease as you add more drives, if anything it increases because you need to use a controller to figure out which drive the data is actually on.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    06/07/09

    @Cuw: "figure out which drive the data is actually on"? Dude, it's striped.
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